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7 days to leave the family home…

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Fearless5 · 22/05/2022 22:28

Firstly apologies for the length of this post, I’ve never told anyone about any of this and now I’ve written it… it’s a lot!

So first, some background… I’ve been married for 15 years and we have 4 children together aged 15, 9, 7 and 2.
DH had an awful childhood and has suspected adhd and autism, got together young, had a baby quickly and basically stuck it out, don’t get me wrong we have had good times scattered in it I’m ashamed to say I’ve made many excuses and allowed myself to be treated very poorly over the years, I’ve never told a soul what my real life is like….

Our middle two children were diagnosed with adhd and autism a few years ago now and are half at home, home schooled by myself and half in a mainstream school. I suspect my youngest is also on the spectrum and although they’re all amazing, nobody knows I do EVERYTHING alone. My DH wouldn’t even know where their clothes were. He flounces out of the house whenever he wants, to see friends, to go to the gym. Occasionally to work…. Me? I would have to ‘ask’ weeks in advance if he would look after his own children, then he would claim I didn’t ask and I would worry that he would loose his temper. So simply, wherever I am, they are. My mum is great and will have them but she often questions why my DH hasn’t had them… I lie and say he’s in work. I’m too embarrassed to tell the truth. I worked hard to get a degree and work part time (from home) ironically as I counsellor, I feel like a fraud when my life is one massive ball of anxiety and lies... my friends and family would swear I was happy, the only thing that gives me joy is my children.
I pay for EVERYTHING alone, any money he gets, he keeps and buys ridiculous things like a £600 remote control car, so many clothes… whilst I walk around in the same clothes I’ve had for years and struggle with bills.

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells and I’m ashamed to say so have my children. His temper, attitude, name calling (to me) and general disinterest in our children has recently been eating me up, I feel deep resentment and can’t get my head around why he can’t see how amazing they are. I hear them trying to talk to him, desperately trying to gain a connection, he’s looking at his phone barely even glancing up. It hurts me so much. I feel I’ve let him get away with so much due to his past and his own issues but where do I draw the line? They are the most precious gift and I put every ounce of my being into trying to be mum and dad, repair the damage he’s done in anger and I’m fed up. Countless meetings and appointments I’ve done alone, we go out daily and he hasn’t come out with us for literally years. We go to theme parks, the beach, the zoo… everywhere… without him. The kids are used to it now but I always feel embarrassed when people ask where he is, I just lie.
I go on holiday tomorrow (only 3 hours away to a lodge) and he’s decided last week he’s not coming! He has a few days of work he just can’t possibly get out of… My child mentioned this to my mum
today and she was so shocked and perplexed (she has no idea we aren’t the perfect team) It makes no difference to me because I do it all alone anyway. In fact I’m looking forward to not being on edge all the time, worried about what mood he’s in or his reaction to the slightest thing. Why do I stay? The truth is, sometimes he can be amazing, he listens and understands and I’m tricked into thinking all will be ok. The next day, BAM. Ignored and left to struggle alone, all the promises already broken.

So… Today my disabled child who is 7 was arguing with their sibling who is 15, just a bit of winding up as siblings do. Well DH lost it. He was shouting so much he lost his voice, I was out packing my car for tomorrow and heard shouting, when I rushed in my 7 year old was being screamed at to wipe up a drink he had accidentally knocked over when leaving the room after being separated from his sibling, my DS calmly said he was getting kitchen roll to clean it but his dad just kept shouting louder and saying ‘clean it now!!!!’ Creating more and more anxiety my sweet son was confused and upset and I stepped in and said ‘what is happening? You need to step out of this situation, you’ve lost control’
Then my son shouted ‘I’m doing it now!’ In pure frustration and DH grabbed him by the neck off the t shirt, pushed him back and shouted whilst pointing in his face not to be cheeky or he would take him upstairs and ‘give him a good hiding’….
I am completely against hitting children and have NEVER done this, DH has many years ago having been hit himself as a child, but thankfully saw the error of his ways after I persuaded him seek psychological help (not by me!) to deal with his own anger, which leads to him taking it out on a child.
Anyway at this point I guided my poor son to his room to safety and calmly (but seething inside) told my DH that I’m going away for one week with the children and when I get back, I don’t want him in the house. I am absolutely disgusted that he could do this to our poor defenceless child and no matter how many years, children and history we have, I’m no longer going to make excuses for this behaviour.

He said I’m a heartless scumbag for giving him just a week, and he’s going to tell everyone so. I said I wonder what everyone will say when they find out why… our marriage has been dead for years, no intimacy, just pure resentment. I own the house, bought just before we met with inheritance money. It’s in my name only but it’s always been our home. He has no money or family to rely on and I’ve said in the past I would help him to get a place, that still stands. I just feel like I can’t have him around the children, who are now even more anxious around him than ever. I never once said he needs to take his things etc, we just need him physically gone. I used to worry myself sick about what would happen to him if he wasn’t at home but I now realise I have four children to care for, he is not one of them.

He has since walked out of the house without a word, who knows when or if he will return?! I haven’t contacted him and certainly won’t… I couldn’t care less at this point…

Am I being unreasonable?!!

OP posts:
knittingaddict · 23/05/2022 07:09

EpicSneeze · 23/05/2022 06:18

You are 100% wrong about this. This was my situation & I got the house despite never paying a penny towards it.

Indeed. My daughter got 70% of the equity despite not being on the deeds or the mortgage and she was a sahm.

The op needs to be realistic and careful about her actions.

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:09

And - I have a friend in a similar situation regarding the house, as he’s left you can actually sell the property as it’s in your name and have the money transferred into your bank account - buy a new one he can’t touch the money.

7eleven · 23/05/2022 07:10

Definitely contact the police. Might it be possible to get a restraining order, to keep OH at a distance, to protect you all?

Amumto4crotchgoblins · 23/05/2022 07:11

OP well done for reaching this point. It is so hard to leave a relationship like this when you have had the abuse for so many years. Good luck moving forward xx

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/05/2022 07:18

Change the locks.

Pack his stuff up and put it in the garage.

Wait until he contacts you then arrange a day for him to collect it when you can have someone with you.

Tell your mother what you've told us. She must have noticed that you never wear new clothes etc.

You have been carrying a huge burden alone - get yourself support as soon as you can - we will be with you even if others find it hard to believe,

Knittingchamp · 23/05/2022 07:18

Jesus OP, that's awful. Well done on getting rid. He is an evil bastard and this would've escalated as well the longer it went on. The poor kids must be so full of anxiety. This would cause them permanent damage if he stayed, wouldn't it? And you as well. He has no redeeming features and us a grotesque human being who has no business near your children.

You and the kids will be so happy without him. But please take care, maybe have a friend staying or your mum even, and make sure his leaving is formalised somehow so he doesn't drag out a coming and going scenario.

knittingaddict · 23/05/2022 07:20

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:09

And - I have a friend in a similar situation regarding the house, as he’s left you can actually sell the property as it’s in your name and have the money transferred into your bank account - buy a new one he can’t touch the money.

Nooooo. What terrible advice!

The op's husband can register his home rights with the land registry to protect himself.

I have no sympathy for abusers, but op needs to stay within the law herself.

Fearless5 · 23/05/2022 07:21

Thank you so much everyone for your advice and kind words, I feel very overwhelmed as I’ve never spoken to anyone about this before.
To those who say I’m strong, I’m really not. If I was I would have found the courage to leave years ago, it’s embarrassing that I can recognise the signs of abuse in my clients but refused to see them in myself. I guess my relaxed attitude is actually avoidance!

DH arrived home late last night, I know this as the door slammed and then locked, we haven’t shared a bed for years, he’s in the study downstairs which probably gives a better insight into our ‘’marriage’

I appreciate the comments about the housing situation, as much as a di*k as he is, I’m 100% confident he wouldn’t try to claim anything money wise and he’s said many times he wouldn’t lay claim to the house. He’s not clued up financially and wouldn’t know where to start with this either. I doubt it would have crossed his mind to seek legal help.
A few months ago we talked about him moving out and talked about how we would try to co parent as friends to make it easier for the children but as I think about it, why would he suddenly step up as a parent? I am
not a nasty person and have never said a bad word about him, as I’m sure you can probably tell, I’ve spent many years covering for him… I would love the idea of being friends and being able celebrate the big things as a (albeit broken) family but surely moving out would make him more distant? He said he can’t wait to ‘start his new life’ and that he’s really excited for it, meanwhile as always I am here with the children, I suppose that’s not my problem, I’m just desperate to protect the kids from any more hurt, especially the younger 3 who struggle with even slight change.

As for those saying don’t go on holiday, this is simply not an option. I have four children who have been counting down the days, we haven’t been away for 3 years and all they want to do is swim. I saved so hard for this holiday alone and they would generally be heartbroken.
I told them Dad isn’t coming and two of them actually said ‘yes!’ (Quietly!) I think it’ll be good for all of us, even if I have been told I now need to take our two dogs with me too (we agreed he would keep them whilst I was away) luckily as when I booked I hoped it would be all of us, I had added on the two dogs! But another added stress! He’s just so incredibly selfish but he can not see it. It’s so frustrating and my head is a mess but I know there’s nothing left to fight for and my strength needs to be concentrated on my children.

I will attempt to have a conversation with him later before I go if he’s up and update everyone. Although he will probably just tell me to F off, I doubt he will even say goodbye to the children as when he’s in one of his kids he says he wants nothing to do with all of us. I may not see him (I hope so) as he always lies in whilst I sort the children and do school runs etc but if anyone asked, we sorted them all out as a team. He’s never cooked any meals for them or even done nappies… Not sure why I have allowed this for so long when I would tell others exactly what you’ve all been telling me, what a massive fu*ck up I’ve made of this!

OP posts:
Knittingchamp · 23/05/2022 07:21

Just wanted to add to other posts that say call the police, etc. You need all formal ways to keep yourself and your kids safe. And to maximize your chances of staying in the family home. He's an angry volatile man with a temper in a situation that is making him very angry and I personally think the police should be informed and women's aid can also give you good advice.

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:22

The op's husband can register his home rights with the land registry to protect himself

Yes he can but it costs money.

Beautiful3 · 23/05/2022 07:26

Sounds like he's been abusing you for years, but now he's started to abuse the children. Good for you. Stick to what you've said. Don't worry about what people think and how you'll explain things. Tell the truth, he was abusive. Don't you dare help him find somewhere to live! He has a full time salary, yours go on your children. Change your locks, just in case he decides to come home!

PetersRabbitt · 23/05/2022 07:27

So basically his the Biggest cock lodger going.

i personally can’t see what difference it would make of he goes, as you have been alone for years anyway. Get rid of him, atleast you would then have a chance of maybe meeting someone new in the future, anyone sounds better than this fool you currently have!!

PurassicJark · 23/05/2022 07:27

Report him to the police for starters for assault against the children. It will make getting full custody and probably full claim over the house easier. If he loses his job, oh well, shouldn't have been a prick.

Get a good solicitor next to divorce him and find out if you can change the locks. At the very least before you go on holiday, leave his shit outside and lock the house. He may not have left with keys.

Finally if he starts whining and saying he'll kill himself, DO NOT believe him. He won't, he's too selfish.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 07:28

I wouldn't trust him an inch. Take your house deeds, passports, birth certificates and everything that is important with you. I understand why you are going on holiday, but protect yourself - he WILL be getting advice op. Do not assume that he is planning nothing, and doing nothing. Assume he is getting shit hot legal advice and plans to fight you for everything, and plan accordingly by protecting your home and your documents and everything related to your life.

I would have him out on my return, with a new deadlock installed (for security purposes) and I would tell the world what he has done to you and the children all of these years. Start with your mum - who knows more than she is letting on.

You have a case for cohesive control if you need to contact the police - he could be charged with that, as a minimum you can ask to apply for a restraining order.

He is a cruel and callous man, and your children are very lucky to have you. Keep going op, the hard part is almost done (getting him out) How relieved (and safer) your children will be when he is no longer there. Flowers

AbsolutelyLoveIy · 23/05/2022 07:29

Obviously no children should be shouted at like that but so much more damaging for autistic kids who are just so anxious by default.

we were so scared of my dad growing up that until I was married I used to have flashback of him storming through the door to hit me….. even though I’ve spend more I’d my life living in the other wise of the world. It’s immensely damaging and I’m glad you’ve binned him. Good luck and don’t let the bastard intimidate you.

DeskInUse · 23/05/2022 07:31

The only unreasonable thing you've done is not told him to leave sooner!

Roselilly36 · 23/05/2022 07:31

I agree have your holiday, with the kids, it will help you to think. Just be prepared that when he sees a solicitor what he has previously said about the house could well change. Good luck going forward OP.

lisavanderpumpscloset · 23/05/2022 07:32

"he always lies in whilst I sort the children and do school runs etc but if anyone asked, we sorted them all out as a team"

Stop doing this. Start being honest about it and don't cover for him, even if he is there. Someone I know started doing this recently and the effect it's had on her DH is rather surprising

StopStartStop · 23/05/2022 07:34

OP, they change when they realise you aren't under their control any longer. Last week, you could have been 100% certain he wouldn't claim on your house but now... things have changed. He'll want whatever he can get, especially if it hurts you. His friends and his lawyers will advise him to get all he can, as they would with a woman. See your own solicitor, and don't forget a claim on the dh's pension!

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 07:34

Your follow up post really concerns me.

If you go on holiday now, what is to stop him destroying all your stuff in the meantime? Or taking all your important documents and locking them away, or emptying your bank accounts etc? You won't be around to stop him physically and there will be very little you can do while on holiday with four children and a dog.

If you are determined to go (and I totally understand why you are), I would ask a family member or friend to keep an eye on the house and let you know if they see him doing anything dodgy or suspicious.

You say he's clueless and wouldn't try and claim part of the house but if the only other option for him is homelessness then I would almost guarantee that he will suddenly become incredibly switched on and knowledgeable - just be aware that he is probably not as clueless as he seems.

Good luck.

knittingaddict · 23/05/2022 07:36

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:22

The op's husband can register his home rights with the land registry to protect himself

Yes he can but it costs money.

Wrong.

It's a simple form and it's FREE

oakleaffy · 23/05/2022 07:37

Eddiesferret · 22/05/2022 22:43

No you can't change the locks !

Just as women in this situation are not powerless neither is your DH !

The starting point on separation is 50/50. He has EQUAL RIGHTS to everything.

Whilst I usually advise DIY to save lawyers fees ... now I would get myself a SHL (shit hot lawyer ) !!

My heart sank when I heard the “ M “ word.

@Fearless5 He sounds awful, but he has a right to your house.
This is the reason Marriage us risky if you have greater assets.
But you won’t have to sell til kids are much older.
It absolutely sucks that you married him.
Had you not, would be your house to keep.

sashh · 23/05/2022 07:38

Change the locks.

Call the police about the assault on your child.

Contact a solicitor.

Enjoy the rest of your life.

Natsku · 23/05/2022 07:38

Well done OP, don't beat yourself up about not doing this sooner, it can be hard to get the courage up to make this decision and you ARE brave for doing this even if you don't think so.

You really should report the assault on your DS though, its really important to cover all your bases here and make sure this is on record just in case.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 07:41

I would be very concerned about what he intends to do once you are out of the way too op.

You can't trust this man.
He does not care about you or the children.

You wouldn't let a stranger live in your home and in your life, and trust them, well that is what your dh is, a total stranger with ill intent. When you frame it like that, you can see why people are concerned about you going on holiday. What will you come back to? Will you even be able to access your house? What will be left of it if he is not stopped? He has nothing left to lose. Be very very careful.

Can you move the holiday dates instead? Get this sorted out first?