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7 days to leave the family home…

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Fearless5 · 22/05/2022 22:28

Firstly apologies for the length of this post, I’ve never told anyone about any of this and now I’ve written it… it’s a lot!

So first, some background… I’ve been married for 15 years and we have 4 children together aged 15, 9, 7 and 2.
DH had an awful childhood and has suspected adhd and autism, got together young, had a baby quickly and basically stuck it out, don’t get me wrong we have had good times scattered in it I’m ashamed to say I’ve made many excuses and allowed myself to be treated very poorly over the years, I’ve never told a soul what my real life is like….

Our middle two children were diagnosed with adhd and autism a few years ago now and are half at home, home schooled by myself and half in a mainstream school. I suspect my youngest is also on the spectrum and although they’re all amazing, nobody knows I do EVERYTHING alone. My DH wouldn’t even know where their clothes were. He flounces out of the house whenever he wants, to see friends, to go to the gym. Occasionally to work…. Me? I would have to ‘ask’ weeks in advance if he would look after his own children, then he would claim I didn’t ask and I would worry that he would loose his temper. So simply, wherever I am, they are. My mum is great and will have them but she often questions why my DH hasn’t had them… I lie and say he’s in work. I’m too embarrassed to tell the truth. I worked hard to get a degree and work part time (from home) ironically as I counsellor, I feel like a fraud when my life is one massive ball of anxiety and lies... my friends and family would swear I was happy, the only thing that gives me joy is my children.
I pay for EVERYTHING alone, any money he gets, he keeps and buys ridiculous things like a £600 remote control car, so many clothes… whilst I walk around in the same clothes I’ve had for years and struggle with bills.

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells and I’m ashamed to say so have my children. His temper, attitude, name calling (to me) and general disinterest in our children has recently been eating me up, I feel deep resentment and can’t get my head around why he can’t see how amazing they are. I hear them trying to talk to him, desperately trying to gain a connection, he’s looking at his phone barely even glancing up. It hurts me so much. I feel I’ve let him get away with so much due to his past and his own issues but where do I draw the line? They are the most precious gift and I put every ounce of my being into trying to be mum and dad, repair the damage he’s done in anger and I’m fed up. Countless meetings and appointments I’ve done alone, we go out daily and he hasn’t come out with us for literally years. We go to theme parks, the beach, the zoo… everywhere… without him. The kids are used to it now but I always feel embarrassed when people ask where he is, I just lie.
I go on holiday tomorrow (only 3 hours away to a lodge) and he’s decided last week he’s not coming! He has a few days of work he just can’t possibly get out of… My child mentioned this to my mum
today and she was so shocked and perplexed (she has no idea we aren’t the perfect team) It makes no difference to me because I do it all alone anyway. In fact I’m looking forward to not being on edge all the time, worried about what mood he’s in or his reaction to the slightest thing. Why do I stay? The truth is, sometimes he can be amazing, he listens and understands and I’m tricked into thinking all will be ok. The next day, BAM. Ignored and left to struggle alone, all the promises already broken.

So… Today my disabled child who is 7 was arguing with their sibling who is 15, just a bit of winding up as siblings do. Well DH lost it. He was shouting so much he lost his voice, I was out packing my car for tomorrow and heard shouting, when I rushed in my 7 year old was being screamed at to wipe up a drink he had accidentally knocked over when leaving the room after being separated from his sibling, my DS calmly said he was getting kitchen roll to clean it but his dad just kept shouting louder and saying ‘clean it now!!!!’ Creating more and more anxiety my sweet son was confused and upset and I stepped in and said ‘what is happening? You need to step out of this situation, you’ve lost control’
Then my son shouted ‘I’m doing it now!’ In pure frustration and DH grabbed him by the neck off the t shirt, pushed him back and shouted whilst pointing in his face not to be cheeky or he would take him upstairs and ‘give him a good hiding’….
I am completely against hitting children and have NEVER done this, DH has many years ago having been hit himself as a child, but thankfully saw the error of his ways after I persuaded him seek psychological help (not by me!) to deal with his own anger, which leads to him taking it out on a child.
Anyway at this point I guided my poor son to his room to safety and calmly (but seething inside) told my DH that I’m going away for one week with the children and when I get back, I don’t want him in the house. I am absolutely disgusted that he could do this to our poor defenceless child and no matter how many years, children and history we have, I’m no longer going to make excuses for this behaviour.

He said I’m a heartless scumbag for giving him just a week, and he’s going to tell everyone so. I said I wonder what everyone will say when they find out why… our marriage has been dead for years, no intimacy, just pure resentment. I own the house, bought just before we met with inheritance money. It’s in my name only but it’s always been our home. He has no money or family to rely on and I’ve said in the past I would help him to get a place, that still stands. I just feel like I can’t have him around the children, who are now even more anxious around him than ever. I never once said he needs to take his things etc, we just need him physically gone. I used to worry myself sick about what would happen to him if he wasn’t at home but I now realise I have four children to care for, he is not one of them.

He has since walked out of the house without a word, who knows when or if he will return?! I haven’t contacted him and certainly won’t… I couldn’t care less at this point…

Am I being unreasonable?!!

OP posts:
speakout · 23/05/2022 06:08

Stay strong OP.

In your situation I wouldn't gp away TBH. I would be concerned that he may change the locks/ trash or get rid of my stuff. Even if you change the locks and go he may gain entry by telling a locksmith he has lost his keys.
I would make a police report, contact women's aid, change the locks while he is out and stay put.
The holiday can wait until you have secured your home.

londonrach · 23/05/2022 06:13

You need a lawyer as even if your house on deeds etc you been married 15 years so he has a claim on it. Proper legal advice best start. You not unreasonable. Well done op on protecting your children. Good luck enjoy your holiday. I'd personally not allow him to stand in the house for the week you away as worries he change locks and refuse to move out and that can drag on months and be expensive to sort.....

AlternativePerspective · 23/05/2022 06:17

There’s a lot of bad advice on this thread.

You need to see a solicitor first and foremost but:

  1. You cannot change the locks. It is the family home and legally he is allowed entry. In fact legally he can break in, and if you are on holiday there is nothing you can do to stop him doing so.
Secondly, the fact that the house is in your name is irrelevant. You’re married and as such it is a marital asset. He will be entitled to 50% of its value, and while you will likely end up being entitled to more, if there is equity he could still force a sale or for you to buy him out to get his share.

Personally I would cancel the holiday and use this time to seek proper legal advice.

If you’re in the house you can lock the door from the inside. If you’re not he can hire a locksmith to gain entry, and there is nothing you will be able to to do to stop him.

EpicSneeze · 23/05/2022 06:18

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

You are 100% wrong about this. This was my situation & I got the house despite never paying a penny towards it.

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 06:19

You need a lawyer.

He has rights to the house too so you can't actually kick someone out of their own home. Just like he couldn't change the locks while you are away and say you don't live there anymore.

Given he was violent, you really need to consult a lawyer to know exactly what your options are. Your children's safety will be prioritized over his housing needs to some degree.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 06:21

Personally there is no way I would be going on holiday and leaving him with access to the family home. Who knows what you'll come home to?

It may be your name on the deeds but you've been married for fifteen years and have four children together - so it's his house too and you can't just kick him out/change the locks and make him homeless.

Basically - get a lawyer and do everything by the book.

EpicSneeze · 23/05/2022 06:22

He will be advised by his lawyer to stay put until a financial settlement is concluded.

user1492757084 · 23/05/2022 06:24

I also think you need to find appropriate assistance to share the workload of care and education of your children. It is unreasonable for you to cope with it all without professional, practical help.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 23/05/2022 06:26

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

Sadly this is not true at all

autienotnaughty · 23/05/2022 06:27

Change the locks put his stuff on the front. Start telling people you trust what your life has been like. Stop listening to him. You have been doing it on your own you might as well have the peace to. Get a solicitor, see what benefits your entitled to and request maintenance.

Zonder · 23/05/2022 06:27

Well done op. Hope you can enjoy your week away as your first week of freedom.

GetThatHelmetOn · 23/05/2022 06:28

Just in case you feel the need to take him back after the holiday…

If you are already doing everything alone and he is not contributing to the expenses fairly, what keeps you there? How is he making your burden lighter?

But take solicitor’s advice, the house might be in your name but as you are married, he has a claim to part of it.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 06:29

autienotnaughty · 23/05/2022 06:27

Change the locks put his stuff on the front. Start telling people you trust what your life has been like. Stop listening to him. You have been doing it on your own you might as well have the peace to. Get a solicitor, see what benefits your entitled to and request maintenance.

She can't just change the locks and kick him out.

They're married and this is their family home. If she changed the locks he would legally be able to break back in to gain access.

Stravaig · 23/05/2022 06:30

I wouldn't go on holiday. Tell DH to leave immediately (he can go to a hotel). Call a lawyer first thing, gather all your paperwork, and please, please tell family and friends the truth.

Roselilly36 · 23/05/2022 06:31

Well done for calling time on this marriage, it clearly hasn’t been working for a long time. See a solicitor ASAP. Unfortunately, I think you will find that you can’t change the locks on the marital home, until the divorce is finalised. In the meantime, consider other measures that can make you feel safer as home, cameras, ring door bell etc. Good luck.

AlternativePerspective · 23/05/2022 06:34

Fgs people need to stop advising the OP to change the locks. Legally she can’t.

People also need to stop making reference to the fact that it’s her house. It isn’t. The instant she got married it became the family home and a marital asset.

He is entitled to share of it and the OP is very likely going to either have to buy him out or sell the house.

qpmz · 23/05/2022 06:47

AlternativePerspective · 23/05/2022 06:34

Fgs people need to stop advising the OP to change the locks. Legally she can’t.

People also need to stop making reference to the fact that it’s her house. It isn’t. The instant she got married it became the family home and a marital asset.

He is entitled to share of it and the OP is very likely going to either have to buy him out or sell the house.

MN insists people get married before kids. This is not a good advert for marriage.

OP - you deserve and need your house for the kids. Do what you have to do to keep your abusive husband away. You sound like a strong person.

1AngelicFruitCake · 23/05/2022 06:55

This is heartbreaking to read but well done for doing something about it. Don’t take the tiny crumbs of kindness he throws you every now and again.

Jumpking · 23/05/2022 06:58

The only thing unreasonable here is your stbxh behaviour throughout your marriage.

Well done OP on kicking him out. Stay strong and take each day as it comes...with the help of a decent solicitor and a group of trusted friends and family round you.

All the best

KatherineJaneway · 23/05/2022 07:00

I am sorry you are going through this.

Do not leave the house. You can ask him to leave but he does not have to. You also cannot change the locks. Get legal advice and make sure you have all the necessary paperwork to hand.

QuebecBagnet · 23/05/2022 07:04

I’d also contact social services about him and his physical abuse of your ds, ask for advice about him having contact. SS will be on your side, you are demonstrating that you’re safeguarding the kids. Having it on record and their support could help when access is decided.

knittingaddict · 23/05/2022 07:05

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

Of course it's a marital asset. 🤔

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/05/2022 07:07

If he agrees to leave as part of a separation (or however this is worded), yes, op can change the locks. If he refuses, he has every right to stay.

He sounds dreadful. If you have the strength, please report the abuse and threats to your ds to the police. And find a SHL to try to hold onto as much of that house as you can. I would try to gather as much concrete evidence as you can that he contributed nothing financially when earning and didn’t do any childcare either. Flowers

endofthelinefinally · 23/05/2022 07:08

It seems thst if you had not intervened your child would have been at seriius risk of assault/ injury. I think at this point you need to speak to social services or the safeguarding person at school for advice. Your children need protection and your husband's behaviour needs to be exposed, not covered up.

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:08

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells

Everybody knows. They can see it in your body language and your actions and probably the actions of your children.

Yoir mum is sitting waiting for you to speak up so she can help you.

Don’t be a fool.

He’s punishing you by leaving - he thinks he’s a good husband and father and you'll
miss him so much you’ll beg him back.

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