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7 days to leave the family home…

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Fearless5 · 22/05/2022 22:28

Firstly apologies for the length of this post, I’ve never told anyone about any of this and now I’ve written it… it’s a lot!

So first, some background… I’ve been married for 15 years and we have 4 children together aged 15, 9, 7 and 2.
DH had an awful childhood and has suspected adhd and autism, got together young, had a baby quickly and basically stuck it out, don’t get me wrong we have had good times scattered in it I’m ashamed to say I’ve made many excuses and allowed myself to be treated very poorly over the years, I’ve never told a soul what my real life is like….

Our middle two children were diagnosed with adhd and autism a few years ago now and are half at home, home schooled by myself and half in a mainstream school. I suspect my youngest is also on the spectrum and although they’re all amazing, nobody knows I do EVERYTHING alone. My DH wouldn’t even know where their clothes were. He flounces out of the house whenever he wants, to see friends, to go to the gym. Occasionally to work…. Me? I would have to ‘ask’ weeks in advance if he would look after his own children, then he would claim I didn’t ask and I would worry that he would loose his temper. So simply, wherever I am, they are. My mum is great and will have them but she often questions why my DH hasn’t had them… I lie and say he’s in work. I’m too embarrassed to tell the truth. I worked hard to get a degree and work part time (from home) ironically as I counsellor, I feel like a fraud when my life is one massive ball of anxiety and lies... my friends and family would swear I was happy, the only thing that gives me joy is my children.
I pay for EVERYTHING alone, any money he gets, he keeps and buys ridiculous things like a £600 remote control car, so many clothes… whilst I walk around in the same clothes I’ve had for years and struggle with bills.

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells and I’m ashamed to say so have my children. His temper, attitude, name calling (to me) and general disinterest in our children has recently been eating me up, I feel deep resentment and can’t get my head around why he can’t see how amazing they are. I hear them trying to talk to him, desperately trying to gain a connection, he’s looking at his phone barely even glancing up. It hurts me so much. I feel I’ve let him get away with so much due to his past and his own issues but where do I draw the line? They are the most precious gift and I put every ounce of my being into trying to be mum and dad, repair the damage he’s done in anger and I’m fed up. Countless meetings and appointments I’ve done alone, we go out daily and he hasn’t come out with us for literally years. We go to theme parks, the beach, the zoo… everywhere… without him. The kids are used to it now but I always feel embarrassed when people ask where he is, I just lie.
I go on holiday tomorrow (only 3 hours away to a lodge) and he’s decided last week he’s not coming! He has a few days of work he just can’t possibly get out of… My child mentioned this to my mum
today and she was so shocked and perplexed (she has no idea we aren’t the perfect team) It makes no difference to me because I do it all alone anyway. In fact I’m looking forward to not being on edge all the time, worried about what mood he’s in or his reaction to the slightest thing. Why do I stay? The truth is, sometimes he can be amazing, he listens and understands and I’m tricked into thinking all will be ok. The next day, BAM. Ignored and left to struggle alone, all the promises already broken.

So… Today my disabled child who is 7 was arguing with their sibling who is 15, just a bit of winding up as siblings do. Well DH lost it. He was shouting so much he lost his voice, I was out packing my car for tomorrow and heard shouting, when I rushed in my 7 year old was being screamed at to wipe up a drink he had accidentally knocked over when leaving the room after being separated from his sibling, my DS calmly said he was getting kitchen roll to clean it but his dad just kept shouting louder and saying ‘clean it now!!!!’ Creating more and more anxiety my sweet son was confused and upset and I stepped in and said ‘what is happening? You need to step out of this situation, you’ve lost control’
Then my son shouted ‘I’m doing it now!’ In pure frustration and DH grabbed him by the neck off the t shirt, pushed him back and shouted whilst pointing in his face not to be cheeky or he would take him upstairs and ‘give him a good hiding’….
I am completely against hitting children and have NEVER done this, DH has many years ago having been hit himself as a child, but thankfully saw the error of his ways after I persuaded him seek psychological help (not by me!) to deal with his own anger, which leads to him taking it out on a child.
Anyway at this point I guided my poor son to his room to safety and calmly (but seething inside) told my DH that I’m going away for one week with the children and when I get back, I don’t want him in the house. I am absolutely disgusted that he could do this to our poor defenceless child and no matter how many years, children and history we have, I’m no longer going to make excuses for this behaviour.

He said I’m a heartless scumbag for giving him just a week, and he’s going to tell everyone so. I said I wonder what everyone will say when they find out why… our marriage has been dead for years, no intimacy, just pure resentment. I own the house, bought just before we met with inheritance money. It’s in my name only but it’s always been our home. He has no money or family to rely on and I’ve said in the past I would help him to get a place, that still stands. I just feel like I can’t have him around the children, who are now even more anxious around him than ever. I never once said he needs to take his things etc, we just need him physically gone. I used to worry myself sick about what would happen to him if he wasn’t at home but I now realise I have four children to care for, he is not one of them.

He has since walked out of the house without a word, who knows when or if he will return?! I haven’t contacted him and certainly won’t… I couldn’t care less at this point…

Am I being unreasonable?!!

OP posts:
Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 12:25

SRS29 · 22/05/2022 23:12

OP how how how did you you have FOUR children with this man? Really?

So very helpful 🙄

You need a shit hot solicitor @Fearless5 (what an appropriate user name) and I’d definitely change the locks.

Cameleongirl · 23/05/2022 12:40

I wouldn't trust him an inch. Take your house deeds, passports, birth certificates and everything that is important with you. I understand why you are going on holiday, but protect yourself - he WILL be getting advice op. Do not assume that he is planning nothing, and doing nothing. Assume he is getting shit hot legal advice and plans to fight you for everything, and plan accordingly by protecting your home and your documents and everything related to your life.

@Swayingpalmtrees has good advice. Gather up all of your important documents and ask a family member to keep them for you while you’re away. Make sure there’s enough money to pay any direct debits while you’re away but don’t be surprised if he empties out any joint accounts-I’m hoping the majority of your savings are in your name only?

Just because he’s generally clueless with money doesn’t mean he will be when he realizes that he can’t rely on your financial support going forward.

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 12:46

don’t be surprised if he empties out any joint accounts

Get in first and do it yourself @Fearless5.

SafferUpNorth · 23/05/2022 13:00

I have nothing to add, but just to wish you good luck Flowers You're totally doing the right thing getting this parasitic, abusive man out of your life for good. Please be completely honest to your family and friends about what it's been like behind closed doors all these years, no matter how embarrassing that might feel. It might be easier to do so in writing.

Weepingwillows12 · 23/05/2022 13:04

You are doing the right thing and you are stronger than you think. You have held everything together putting your kids first for years. Your life will be easier without him and I think it will be much healthier for you and your kids. Don't try and fix his mess for him. He needs to do that himself. Actions have consequences. And by the way you said what a mess you made of it all. You haven't made a mess, he has. You just tried to protect your kids from the mess.

Freemoney22 · 23/05/2022 13:10

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Snowiscold · 23/05/2022 13:12

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 12:46

don’t be surprised if he empties out any joint accounts

Get in first and do it yourself @Fearless5.

Do not do this. It’s the same as the terrible advice on changing the locks. You cannot deprive him of his legally owned share of the money , or share of the house.

Cameleongirl · 23/05/2022 13:14

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 12:46

don’t be surprised if he empties out any joint accounts

Get in first and do it yourself @Fearless5.

Someone with more knowledge will confirm this, but I thought that emptying out accounts like that immediately after a split was really frowned on by the courts? The OP might not want to do it herself, just ensure that no more money goes into joint accounts….definitely have your salary deposited into another account, OP.

ilovesushi · 23/05/2022 13:14

I'm sure you have had loads of advice, but just wanted to say good luck and have a good break with the kids.

Cameleongirl · 23/05/2022 13:16

@Snowiscold That’s what I thought.

Wallywobbles · 23/05/2022 13:32

If there's any possibility of having the "daddy will it be living here when we get back from holiday conversation. With daddy there it'll be better for everyone and importantly very hard for him to back track on.

usernamealreadytaken · 23/05/2022 13:38

So sorry for your situation, my heart goes out to you and your children.

However, from a legal point of view, you have the right to ask him to leave but legally I don't think that he has to, and will likely have a claim on your home whether it was yours before the marriage or not. I recently asked a question regarding my elderly father in law wanting to will his property, and was put in my place that his wife of 35 years would be entitled to stay in the property, so I'd assume similar for your husband, although the marriage is shorter.

Please enjoy your holiday as much as you can, and take proper legal advice when you get home x

MagnoliaTaint · 23/05/2022 13:43

I'm sorry, OP. I hope you and your children are okay. You're doing the right thing.

Sloth66 · 23/05/2022 13:46

Frankly you sound an amazing mum .
From what you say, this man brings absolutely nothing to your life, and I’m sure life will become easier with him out of your life.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 23/05/2022 13:49

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:09

And - I have a friend in a similar situation regarding the house, as he’s left you can actually sell the property as it’s in your name and have the money transferred into your bank account - buy a new one he can’t touch the money.

OMG noooo
this is so so wrong
please stop giving shit wrong advice to people that could get them in huge trouble!!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh · 23/05/2022 14:07

Crumbs OP, he is awful. Yes to leaving him.

BUT yes to protecting yourselves as well.

DOCUMENTS!

Give a family member a spare key and ask them to keep an eye on the house.

You need to get some RL support as well..

I left a violent man, many moons ago… my advice is to just keep your eyes peeled until things settle down somewhat.

He won’t change. You are doing the right thing.

nettie434 · 23/05/2022 14:09

Fearless5 I don't know enough about the legal situation to offer any practical advice but I just wanted to say that it sounds like you and your children will have a better life if your husband moves out.

I just wanted to say that when you finally talk to your family and friends, you might find that they actually have already had their suspicions about him. Just as you found it easier to explain things when you wrote it down here, so you might find they have had their own niggles and worries but felt it wasn't their place to say anything to you. Anyway, it's all the more important that they know the situation now.

whataboutbob · 23/05/2022 14:11

He sounds quite a lot like my late father, obsessed with his work , emotionally unavailable especially when we were small, would fly in to rages, used physical “ correction” a lot, would create huge messes around himself etc. Completely different to my calm, gentle mum and I wish she’d left him, it would have been better for her. In the event she died suddenly, aged 54. More than one friend of hers suggested she’d died of exhaustion. In retrospect I think my father probably was on the autistic spectrum ,and my brother is as well, but tragically never diagnosed, dad would have been completely against any “ labelling”. He won’t change and you really will be better off in th e long term, and so probably will your children.

Dillydollydingdong · 23/05/2022 14:23

Why are you asking? Of course you're not being unreasonable.

GenderAtheist · 23/05/2022 15:58

Do not do this [ empty the joint account ]. It’s the same as the terrible advice on changing the locks. You cannot deprive him of his legally owned share of the money , or share of the house

No it’s not the same. Both of you own all the money in the joint account and entitled to withdraw it all. Of course it will still be considered as part of the matrimonial assets for divorce . It it stops him wasting it out of spite.

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 16:00

Snowiscold · 23/05/2022 13:12

Do not do this. It’s the same as the terrible advice on changing the locks. You cannot deprive him of his legally owned share of the money , or share of the house.

More epic wrongness! Either party to the joint account is legally entitled to any or all of the money, unless you have specifically set it up as joint signatures or another variable.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/05/2022 16:17

I wouldn't go away with this situation simmering as it is.

He's come back, clearly in the hope that it will all be forgotten and he can carry on as normal. I'd be inclined to let him think so for now so he'll behave while you're gone.

Tackle him when you get back.

Take your long suffering kids and your long suffering self off for a well deserved break without having the worry of what he might be up to hanging over you.

You might know it's over. He doesn't have to.... yet.

GenderAtheist · 23/05/2022 16:48

Do not do this [ empty the joint account ]. It’s the same as the terrible advice on changing the locks. You cannot deprive him of his legally owned share of the money , or share of the house

No it’s not the same. Both of you own all the money in the joint account and entitled to withdraw it all. Of course it will still be considered as part of the matrimonial assets for divorce . It it stops him wasting it out of spite.

Snowiscold · 23/05/2022 16:55

I see. I stand corrected a bit on the joint account stuff.

dollymuchymuchness · 23/05/2022 18:00

KettrickenSmiled · 23/05/2022 11:07

PS - when you ring the police to report the assault, make sure you mention that you waited until you & DC were away from H & safe in the holiday home before reporting.
Explain how relieved the DC were when they realised their dad isn't coming.
Say you are scared of the atmosphere at home & scared that H has now escalated to physical abuse. That he used to hit the DC but you stopped him, & are now scared because he had not done so for X years until this incident this week.

It is possible that on the strength of this (oy! - stop minimising! - & STOP worrying about H's feelings!) that you could obtain a non-mol or - sorry hope PP have/will advise on offical wording - an order that prevents him from entering the marital home.

THIS SHOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY
YOUR H ASSAULTED YOUR CHILD
YOU NEED HIM REMOVED FROM THE FAMILY HOME

You know this my dear Fearless.
You know what you would be saying to one of your clients at this point.
So I am sorry to shout Wink but 15 years of habitual minimising is a hard one to break.
Break it.

This ^ 100%

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