Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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Just in case we run out on part 3

Oh he's blown it!

If they do a good job on cross, they can easily point out how this guy just described Amber.

The debate will go on. There are many on here who do not believe a woman can ever have power over a man due to the privilege and physical strength that men have and therefore women can never be abusers and men can never be victims. That seems to be the main argument from those supporting Amber. That regardless of what she did or does to anyone, she can only ever be a victim because she will never be more powerful than a man, and certainly never more powerful than Depp.

I dare say that's probably what AH believes herself.

I'm watching the trial live. Victims apologise too. They are made to feel like it is all their fault and they then end up apologising.

This is slightly off topic but there is something about this pyschiatrists mannerism's and eye movements and voice that make him sound like he is in an animated movie. He makes me think of Rafiki from Lion King.

If he gets tired of psychiatry, I feel like he could get work as a voice actor in animated films!

I agree, hes really settled in and is enjoying himself.

Everything he says about NPD and JD I apply to AH.

This is longer than Dr hughes or feels like it, those who complained about dr curry (including myself) dishing out diagnosis this guy is on the same level. I wouldn’t seek this guy out if I was an addict. He has made really good points and then goes on on blanket statements which for me spoils it. The biggest problem is those who support Amber see what he is saying in Depp, those who support Depp see Amber in his description. I see both of them and neither them in his description.

A lot of what he is saying could apply to just about anyone. He included non verbal looks that would be perceived as threatning in his description of psychological abuse....so giving your spouse the evil eye makes one abusive.

She could be abusive to children, animals, other men who are impaired or weaker in some way and so on, there are different scenarios where a woman could be the abuser. It is never to be equated to patriarchal male violence, regardless of comparison whether it is worse or better etc.

In this case even if they were both jealous and controlling, only one was more powerful to do so and overrule the other. That is what patriarchy survives on-men keeping women on large under control whether institutionally, socially by imposing what is acceptable behaviour for women or on one by one basis where the partner keeps the woman in domestic abuse situation, where she has to do as he say lest she wants him to lash out and punish her by humiliation, assault etc. As the dr mentioned, it's about control and asserting dominance. I would hardly be scared of Amber(tho she is a bit taller and probably stronger than me)shouting at me. Their power imbalance has been chewed on plenty already so no need to repeat that

Yeah, I think we are all narcissist.

Oh dear!

Cross exam has him by the balls in the first few minutes and he's not liking it

Hells bells. If Amber Heards team thinks this guy is doing her any favours then they are barking. He’s been caught out by this ethics question, he needs to shut it down- not keep arguing the point, he’s just undermining his credibility

I do think all three of the psychiatrists have let their profession down.

And I just fully disagree that an adult woman can't abuse an adult man.

Having watched it happen in my own family for over a decade, it makes me really sad for all the men who are scoffed at and mocked because their victimization isn't possible according to some. It is why I will never identify as a feminist. I will always be an egalitarian - as I woman, I do not agree that I have no power or no ability to ever abuse a man. While feminism has done some great things for women, this kind of stance that men can not be victims of women will never allow me to fully support them. Beyond psychological abuse, men have been physically, sexually, financially and even murdered by women - and to deny the existence of that and always twisting it that the man was always the abuser and the woman always the victim due to the belief that men will always have more power and privilege in my perspetive is just wrong.
I completely reject the idea that women are uncapable of wrongdoing when it comes to men and I have seen so much of that when it comes to this case.

Yeah, I think we are all narcissist.

We all have these traits but they are normally balanced out with empathy.

I worked with psychiatrists for years. About 40% are great, about 60% are....interesting and there to work out their own issues!

I'm not sure what you're trying to say mildlife because it sounds like you aren't even replying to my post. I would just have to copy paste the same thing, and off in the circle we go

I going to say it the dr is showing signs of narcissist traits

This doctor is just showing how bad a witness he is. The judge had to step in to tell him to answer the question 😂

I completely agree with you, I thought the same.

He's just trashing his own career at this point.

JDs own father was abused my his mother so yes, women can be abusers.

Well it seems Whitney was scared of Amber. She admits that she can totally loose it. I can see her being quite scary and very physical. I think she was very verbally and mentally abusive. It seemed to me on the tapes that she could run rings around JD verbally and was much more articulate than him. It seems she was able to mentally abuse him and perhaps with that she could physically abuse as he was weakened this way.

What an arrogant arse!!!

This guy is terrible for AH team. This witness is damaging her case more than helping it. His arguing is showing him to be unreliable and the lawyers doing a great job.