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Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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ENoeuf · 22/05/2022 18:39

Just in case we run out on part 3

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ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:10

Where are you seeing this ? I just have a blank screen?

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adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 18:10

unctuousunicorns1 · 25/05/2022 18:05

Can someone please explain the significance of this - is it to verify the claim that AH sold the video of JD having an argument with the cabinets to TMZ?

I need to know too!

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 18:14

@LetitiaLeghorn , that is interesting.

I think he has bags of empathy. Is it just acting? It could be, I just am not sure!

Elaine and her bloody microphone!@ProclivityForPyrotechnics

minou123 · 25/05/2022 18:14

unctuousunicorns1 · 25/05/2022 18:05

Can someone please explain the significance of this - is it to verify the claim that AH sold the video of JD having an argument with the cabinets to TMZ?

Bearing in mind I have no legal background, this is just my understanding.

The motion TMZ have brought is to stop the ex-reporter from testifying at all.

They are all speculating on what he will say, for example, who leaked the video and divorce to TMZ. But no-one knows if that is what he will say.

The judge ruled she would not the ex-reporter from testifying.

However, she made it clear that if he starts to testify about leaks, then she will deal with any objections when it happens.

So, the ex-reporter can testify (but still not sure if JD will call him)
But, we do not know what he will say. He very well may not say who leaked stuff to TMZ, so don't get too excited 😁

Long and short though is TMZ and AH team are pissed off.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:14

Actually I don't think this should be allowed. If people can't leak stuff to the press without fear of a court later allowing it that's concerning. Not for this particularly but I can think of times people would be in genuine fear of retribution.

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TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:15

See my pp. Amber denied under oath both now and UK she didn't tip off the press.

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 18:15

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:10

Where are you seeing this ? I just have a blank screen?

They have now gone to lunch. It was right before lunch.

You can watch it here

LetitiaLeghorn · 25/05/2022 18:15

AH said she didn't know how her video got into the hands of TMZ and it was nothing to do with her. TMZ could answer that question.

Boulshired · 25/05/2022 18:15

IrisVersicolor · 25/05/2022 18:09

damp squid

😂🦑

I’ve had an operation on my arm so am voice typing I’ve had worse come out unfortunately

LetitiaLeghorn · 25/05/2022 18:16

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:14

Actually I don't think this should be allowed. If people can't leak stuff to the press without fear of a court later allowing it that's concerning. Not for this particularly but I can think of times people would be in genuine fear of retribution.

That's why they can appeal against being appealing and the judge makes a case by case decision.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:16

@Midlifemusings thank you. I'll try that. I was watching on sky originally. Maybe I switched to making dinner too early - when I came back it was blank but the thread was busy.

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adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 18:17

Thanks minou, I get it now.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:19

Where are people's thoughts - straw poll time! On a scale of 1-5 with:

  1. A is completely making it up, knew the op Ed was disingenuous and should lose to JD on both claims

  2. J clearly held the power and was abusive, her claims are true and she should win both counts

And do you think the jury will agree with you?

I'm a solid 3 and I think the jury will give the win to J on both counts.

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 25/05/2022 18:19

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:15

See my pp. Amber denied under oath both now and UK she didn't tip off the press.

Which is why I think it should be allowed.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:19

Ugh I mean she claimed she would even know how to tip off the press, under oath.

I mean, really 😂 why try to block it if she was truthful.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:20

Wouldn't know!! Give up Blush

unctuousunicorns1 · 25/05/2022 18:20

Sending speedy brachial recovery vibes your way, Boul. 💪

minou123 · 25/05/2022 18:23

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:14

Actually I don't think this should be allowed. If people can't leak stuff to the press without fear of a court later allowing it that's concerning. Not for this particularly but I can think of times people would be in genuine fear of retribution.

This may be a lot of panicking for nothing.
The only people who know what he is going to say is: him and JD team.
Everyone else, including us, are speculating about what he will say.

Kate Moss, Jennifer Howell etc, there has been a lot of speculation about what they will say, and people thinking they know what they will testify. But then they testifying and it seems like a "let down" because they didn't say what we thought they would.

So it could be, this guy is going to testify about something completely differently and it might be very quick.

Either way, it will be interesting.

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 18:23

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 18:14

Actually I don't think this should be allowed. If people can't leak stuff to the press without fear of a court later allowing it that's concerning. Not for this particularly but I can think of times people would be in genuine fear of retribution.

It will be interesting to see what is permitted to be included in testimony - but just like the Aquaman spoilers - once it is out there, it is out there!

In this case, since I think it is central to whether or not Amber had a campaign to defame Johnny by selling recordings to TMZ. Amber was very careful when she testified to say that SHE had never given anything but that she had given things to her lawyers and basically didn't know what they did with them! It is kind of the opposite of the waldman statements in that it is likely the lawyers who acted, not Amber directly.

As someone else said, TMZ was able to own the copyright which means they got them from the original source - either directly or indirectly.

In the grand scheme - it is TMZ. I would think Johnny's team also leaked things, TMZ has a lot of sources. Assuming this source is an AH team person, it doesn't really give away any secrets.

unctuousunicorns1 · 25/05/2022 18:25

Thing is, even if there were no accusations of abuse from either of them, what a shitty, horrible, mutually unsupportive "relationship" this seems to have been. Time was when it was the paps that photoed or filmed you looking crap and embarrassing and sold it to the press so the world could see you at your very worst, that was expected; it was their job. But your partner/spouse? And to think Katy Perry got the huff with RB. Smh.

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2022 18:27

@ENoeuf I'm sadly leaning towards a 2 at the moment.
I think the jury will go with depp too.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:27

I'll leave these here Any survivors out there react like this when reliving events?

Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?
Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?
Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?
TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:29

"In the grand scheme - it is TMZ. I would think Johnny's team also leaked things, TMZ has a lot of sources. Assuming this source is an AH team person, it doesn't really give away any secrets"

No but it may prove perjury in more than one courtroom this discredit further AH. That's what it is mainly about and the intent to defame.

TiddyTidTwo · 25/05/2022 18:31

I'm a 1.5

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2022 18:32

Those pictures are not good!
I'd like to see pictures of jd sneering now for comparison , are there any?