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Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

988 replies

ENoeuf · 22/05/2022 18:39

Just in case we run out on part 3

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ProclivityForPyrotechnics · 25/05/2022 16:51

@unctuousunicorns1 agree

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 16:51

Interesting that he's always spoken like this. I don't really watch celebrities being interviewed etc.
I don't like his asides, it does indicate irritation.
All of this is just like he said she said etc. I don't envy the jury.

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Boulshired · 25/05/2022 16:54

this is well played, they do have to cross but know they are time limited.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 16:58

Is t this introducing new evidence? I thought this was rebuttal not new accusations?

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adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:00

AH needs to doodle or something and stop smirking.

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:02

I would not be pulling that face.

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:03

If he can snicker with lawyers when she desrices sexual assualt so can she snicker at what she probably thinks are ridicilous claims(like that he doesn't know if there was a wall mounted phone)

ObjectionHearsay · 25/05/2022 17:05

Yeah I agree on the 10MDMA. He'd be dead, you can't take that much and not suffer a cardiac arrest . Had she said 4 maybe 5 I'd think, yeah ok prolonged use, tolerance and so on. But 10!

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:06

I can't stand the self-pity tone JD always talks about himself, in and out of this case

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:07

Totally on the MDMA. 3 or more... death wish. IMO.

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:09

Who even knows what the size and dose of those MDMA were? You can't possibly know what you're taking with street drug as dr Spiegel said, those are not in any way controlled. It doesn't come with lil FDA stamp I'm quite sure

ObjectionHearsay · 25/05/2022 17:09

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 16:27

Wtf? Why take mdma of not to experience the full effects?

Some will mix cocaine and amphetamines.

Combat the coke come down. It's how people end up doing like drug binges for days. Do the coke, do the amphetamine, do the coke do the amphetamine, constant and prolonged energy highs. Add in some alcohol, too. Can go on for days and days. They eventually crash though or run out of drugs and crash.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 17:15

It changed everything

Objection

Oh it didn't change everything

^^that stuff, he just has such entitlement to do this. I think he will win, he keeps smiling at the jury, he's chirpy, I think it's over for Amber no matter what the truth is.

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unctuousunicorns1 · 25/05/2022 17:16

Do they pause the stopwatch every time AH's counsel approach?

ObjectionHearsay · 25/05/2022 17:18

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:09

Who even knows what the size and dose of those MDMA were? You can't possibly know what you're taking with street drug as dr Spiegel said, those are not in any way controlled. It doesn't come with lil FDA stamp I'm quite sure

Indeed it's why people with a history of substance misuse don't bang in 10 MDMA pills in at once.

They might take 2 or 3, feel no effect as it's weaker than they normally buy, then take another 2 or 3 till it hits.

You don't want to bang 10MDMA pills down your gullet to then find out it's the best you've ever had before suffering a cardiac arrest 40mins later.

And even if he knew the strength and they were weaker than he'd had before, he still wouldn't do 10in one go. 5 then 5 maybe at a push.

They were in Australia, new drug dealers possibly. Not a "trusted" source. People with substance misuse operate harm reduction as a failsafe. New gear, go slow.

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 17:19

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:06

I can't stand the self-pity tone JD always talks about himself, in and out of this case

You must spend a lot of time trying to think of new things to criticize him for.

You hate how he looks, how he sounds, how he moves, how he thinks, how he talks, how he smiles, how he breathes.... we get it, to you he is a creep, a predator, a monster, a demon... he is ugly, he is old, he smells, he is a man... all disgusting things to you.

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:23

AH is not coming out of this well, or even human TBH.

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:25

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 17:19

You must spend a lot of time trying to think of new things to criticize him for.

You hate how he looks, how he sounds, how he moves, how he thinks, how he talks, how he smiles, how he breathes.... we get it, to you he is a creep, a predator, a monster, a demon... he is ugly, he is old, he smells, he is a man... all disgusting things to you.

Oh my. You really took JD under your wing, never seen so much emphaty on this thread until it comes to defending abusers

Aspiringmatriarch · 25/05/2022 17:26

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:23

AH is not coming out of this well, or even human TBH.

Probably because she's an evil succubus.

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 17:26

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:23

AH is not coming out of this well, or even human TBH.

I blame her team for this in part. I've said before they aren't making her look friendly or pleasant they need much more interaction and smiling and they should have sat the younger woman with her.

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Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 17:27

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:25

Oh my. You really took JD under your wing, never seen so much emphaty on this thread until it comes to defending abusers

Where have I taken him under my wing? I am not even sure what that means.

And as to defending abusers - I think you win that prize with gold stars!

Legrandsophie · 25/05/2022 17:27

Miscfeminista · 25/05/2022 17:09

Who even knows what the size and dose of those MDMA were? You can't possibly know what you're taking with street drug as dr Spiegel said, those are not in any way controlled. It doesn't come with lil FDA stamp I'm quite sure

But ten is still widely out. Unless they were not actual MDMA. Have you ever taken Molly?

Boulshired · 25/05/2022 17:27

So what now, they didn’t have him take the stand because they know how difficult it is, but he has managed quite a few claims in that statement. Some the jury might want clarification for. If they didn’t know he was taking the stand they must be
panicking about what to do. If only they didn’t call spiegel. I think that photo from raffles was from SM.

Midlifemusings · 25/05/2022 17:30

ENoeuf · 25/05/2022 17:26

I blame her team for this in part. I've said before they aren't making her look friendly or pleasant they need much more interaction and smiling and they should have sat the younger woman with her.

I don't think she is getting along well with her team. When people don't really like each other, there is just a coldness. I don't know who her stylist is but it is clear they are going for a modern professional business woman look.

I think Johnny just gets along much better with his team so you see the interactions and the natural rapport they have.

adriftabroad · 25/05/2022 17:30

Judge is now with JD. IMO