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Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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ENoeuf · 22/05/2022 18:39

Just in case we run out on part 3

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Legrandsophie · 24/05/2022 18:08

That WB witness seemed to have put a real damper on the counter claim from AH. She was never in the running for more money but they did look to re-cast her because of chemistry issues that had to be fixed in post. Sounds very believable and straightforward. Momoa was a star before Aquaman and was the tirade character of the movie. It is a stretch to suggest her career was in the same trajectory.

TiddyTidTwo · 24/05/2022 18:28

Yes leg

And also adds weight to what else she stretches the truth on. If I was in the jury and had to endure the absolute will-breaking boring testimony yesterday, I'd be mightily pissed off after WB today, that AH thought she'd try to convince me otherwise.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/05/2022 18:47

Legrandsophie · 24/05/2022 18:08

That WB witness seemed to have put a real damper on the counter claim from AH. She was never in the running for more money but they did look to re-cast her because of chemistry issues that had to be fixed in post. Sounds very believable and straightforward. Momoa was a star before Aquaman and was the tirade character of the movie. It is a stretch to suggest her career was in the same trajectory.

Totally. I find it somewhat cheeky that she got compared to JM and his career and Zendayas etc. She's not in the same league. I think the WB testimony has really damaged her claim, which was a laughable amount anyway.

minou123 · 24/05/2022 18:57

I use the Wayback Machine in my work aswell.

I knew me and this guy could be BFFs!

Legrandsophie · 24/05/2022 19:10

Wow! Those Q scores seem bad for her. No wonder she hasn’t cast any big projects posy Aquaman.

minou123 · 24/05/2022 19:18

I know AH don't have a lot of time, so are rushing thier questions. But there are a lot of double negative questions happening.
I'm amazed the Expert Witness is keeping up with what they are asking because I'm struggling to understand the questions.

Boulshired · 24/05/2022 19:19

I actually think Heards team should keep their time now on defeating Depps claim instead of fighting for the counterclaim.

TiddyTidTwo · 24/05/2022 19:22

I'm going to out on a limb here and say Amber has gaslighted her lawyers, her witnesses and tried to gaslight the jury.

When you get to the nub of the issues, her testimony falls apart. Are JDs witnesses better because of money or do they just tell it as it actually is?

I feel sorry for her lawyers tbh. Crap client.

TheSnowyOwl · 24/05/2022 19:23

I think Amber had to put her side across before WB because she or her team felt it would be heard whereas it wouldn’t be afterwards.

WB sounded the most credible of anyone I’ve heard yet. Also unlikely to have much bias either way compared to employees, paid experts or friends/family. That helps to make him all the more convincing.

adriftabroad · 24/05/2022 19:25

I am inclined to agree @TiddyTidTwo

minou123 · 24/05/2022 19:25

It's the question that start
"You don't disagree.............?"

It messes with my head. Double negatives are the bane of my life

TiddyTidTwo · 24/05/2022 19:27

Plus...I very much doubt JD paid WB!

adriftabroad · 24/05/2022 19:34

Does anyone know what is going on? I am completely lost.

JenniferAlisonPhilipaSue · 24/05/2022 19:35

I'm lost, who is this guy, what's going on

TiddyTidTwo · 24/05/2022 19:39

About to ask the same!

ObjectionHearsay · 24/05/2022 19:39

Hmm this isn't going well for AH.

Maths and statistics are as black and white as it can get.

Nobody sat in that room thinks AH was or would ever be as big a star as JM or Zenedaya, I'm not even sure why they used them as comparables.

Ones actually Aquaman and been in Game of Thrones (one of the highest grossing TV series to date) and the other had been on the Disney payroll since 13, had a music career and has been in films such as the greatest showman and now Spiderman. MJ was more than a love interest of Spiderman she was a protagonist in the plots and the comics.

Mera is literally aquamans shag to but bluntly 🤷🏻‍♀️

Midlifemusings · 24/05/2022 19:39

JenniferAlisonPhilipaSue · 24/05/2022 19:35

I'm lost, who is this guy, what's going on

Guy who works at the Hicksville Trailer Palace. I have no idea what that is.... but Amber apparently said Johnny had yelled / grabbed her or something.

Since he had seen part of the trial, they need to do a voir dire to give both lawyers a chance to talk to him and see if they have any objections to him as a witness (without the jury present).

adriftabroad · 24/05/2022 19:40

I think they are clutching at straws?

StormzyinaTCup · 24/05/2022 19:40

It messes with my head. Double negatives are the bane of my life

Not just me then.
Double negatives don’t compute in my brain.

adriftabroad · 24/05/2022 19:44

This dear boy seems quite sweet though.

I think judge is getting irritated.

TiddyTidTwo · 24/05/2022 19:44

I think this witness is going to tell it as it is.

Who is he???!

StormzyinaTCup · 24/05/2022 19:45

I think that Hicksville was the incident where it is alleged that AH was flirting with a girlfriend while they were all sitting around the open fire and then JD and AH went back to the trailer, something else is alleged to have happened DV wise in the trailer and then JD trashed it.

ObjectionHearsay · 24/05/2022 19:45

If you look at the previous MJ's also

Kirsten Dunst
Emma Stone
Zenedaya

You have in that collection an Oscar winner, a Cannes Best Actress Award and a prime time Emmy award winner.

Amber Heard got a Razzie nomination for worst actress for 2018 London Fields.

minou123 · 24/05/2022 19:46

So this Hicksville guy has been called as a rebuttal witness for JD
Therefore he knows something that could prove one of AH witness lied or didn't tell the truth about the "Hicksville incident"

However, he is not a expert witness, so it is very important he hasn't watched the trial. AH team are questioning him to see if he has seen anything of thev trial as this could prejudice his testimony.

All he said that he has seen of the trial is he saw a clip of the trial from the security guard and he tweeted someone saying that's not what happened at Hicksville.

The judge is deciding if he is a valid witness or of he is a prejudiced witneds