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to not want all models to look like 'real' women?

237 replies

beattieedny · 21/05/2022 18:31

Just that really. I am much more likely to buy clothing if the model looks like looks slim. I don't care for the current thing of showing clothes (aside from specifically for plus sized ofc) on fat people. It's not as attractive.
I am a thin person but have been fat by the way.

OP posts:
aSofaNearYou · 21/05/2022 19:25

YABU.

Most women are not as thin as the models the vast majority of clothes are advertised on, so they are only catering to a small minority (possible you).

MadKittenWoman · 21/05/2022 19:26

Fabletics have some very large models.

RitaFaircloughsWig · 21/05/2022 19:30

lemmein · 21/05/2022 18:58

Boohoo dress obese models in such ridiculous, unflattering clothes it actually looks like they're taking the piss out of them just for clicks. Most people can't get away with a flesh coloured Lycra crop top with matching leggings, I refuse to believe Boohoo dress their models in such monstrosities to be 'inclusive'.

Of course they don't. It is all about the money - they couldn't care less but are saying to this generation of young obese women " It is OK to look that that and still wear skimpy clothes" and there are groups of people who want that voluptuous look.

GrumpyInsomniac · 21/05/2022 19:30

From a brand perspective, I want customers to be able to see how our clothes look on larger and smaller sizes, because you can’t tell how something will look on a size 16 by looking at a model in a size 10.

In addition, we don’t retouch out scars, birth marks, tattoos, folds or stretch marks because those are all normal things and there is nothing wrong with them.

We’re currently working on expanding our range beyond a 16 and I look forward to including models of a larger size once the larger sizes become available. It’s been hard enough to persuade our design team to go there so it will be a major celebration for me and my team.

If you’re a size 10 and don’t like seeing larger models because they don’t relate to your experience of buying clothes, just scroll past the images of larger models and try to have some sympathy for those larger women who want the same chance as you to see clothes on a body more like their own before buying.

RitaFaircloughsWig · 21/05/2022 19:32

There are many companies who do the two size modelling now eg www.needleandthread.com/collections/embellished-dresses/products/amalie-sequin-v-neck-ballerina-dress-petal-pink

Carpy88999 · 21/05/2022 19:32

Sunquench · 21/05/2022 18:46

@MadameCholetsDirtySecret

How are you “other” when the majority of adverts are those of slim women. You have thin privilege, bit like white privilege.

Thin privilege. Heard it all on here now.

Sunquench · 21/05/2022 19:33

@Carpy88999

Good to see you’re educating yourself.

Notaneffingcockerspaniel · 21/05/2022 19:34

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Sunquench · 21/05/2022 19:37

@Waxonwaxoff0

Fair enough you don’t believe in thin privilege I do, and I speak as a slim woman myself who can acknowledge that. People moaning about seeing diverse models is nauseatingly boring.

OP, if you don’t like it just scroll on by.

Carpy88999 · 21/05/2022 19:38

Sunquench · 21/05/2022 19:33

@Carpy88999

Good to see you’re educating yourself.

Being thin usually takes effort to achieve and maintain.

Unlike skin colour most people have a choice if they want to be thin or fat. It's not a privilege ffs.

Drame · 21/05/2022 19:38

I’m a size 8 but I’m short, pear shaped, bit of a belly (thanks kids) etc… so the size 8 leggy perfect models don’t show me what clothes will look like on me at all. Unless you look like a model just go try the clothes on.

SofiaSoFar · 21/05/2022 19:38

I agree, OP. I've also been overweight and recently lost it (well, over the past 8 months).

I really dislike that we're now normalising obesity. It just takes away another incentive for people to look after themselves.

No doubt I'll be flamed for that.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/05/2022 19:39

thebellagio · 21/05/2022 19:25

I had an advert on FB the other day from Good American, the jeans brand from Khloe Kardashian. I liked the fact that you could choose what model images you wanted to see - gives a much better idea of what the product would look like!

I wouldn't buy anything from a woman who has grotesquely mutilated her own body and photoshops herself to within an inch of her life. She's not for women at all.

Staffy1 · 21/05/2022 19:40

Personally, I would rather see the clothes on a fat person, being fat myself. This saves the disappointment of expecting to look like a greyhound but ending up looking like a bulldog.

lancsgirl85 · 21/05/2022 19:40

*Being thin usually takes effort to achieve and maintain.

Unlike skin colour most people have a choice if they want to be thin or fat. It's not a privilege ffs.*

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Carpy88999 · 21/05/2022 19:40

Fot what it's worth if people are fat and happy more power to them I do not care. If people are fat and unhappy they can change it with effort and willpower if they so desire.

This thin privilege stuff is nonsensical.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/05/2022 19:41

Sunquench · 21/05/2022 19:37

@Waxonwaxoff0

Fair enough you don’t believe in thin privilege I do, and I speak as a slim woman myself who can acknowledge that. People moaning about seeing diverse models is nauseatingly boring.

OP, if you don’t like it just scroll on by.

I don't agree with what OP posted, but I don't agree with people trying to shut down comments from slim women because they have "thin privilege", like I said it boils down to jealousy.

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 21/05/2022 19:43

The vast majority of fashion models are very slim. No need to panic just yet.

I've noticed models with limb differences on various fashion websites recently. Is that irritating to people too?

Sunquench · 21/05/2022 19:44

@SofiaSoFar

Oh so just because you’ve managed to lose the weight you suddenly don’t want to see bigger models? Right.

Not every advert is that of a larger women is it? If it was, I could totally see your point in reference to normalising being overweight. The issue here is diversity for women.

What about disabled women? They’re hugely underrepresented, would this be “normalising” disability if more of those adverts were shown?

Diversity doesn’t threaten me to be honest. I’ve been slim all my life, seeing a larger lady is neither here nor there, I don’t give it that much thought.

Wanttosupport · 21/05/2022 19:47

Discovereads · 21/05/2022 18:40

YANBU in that current models do seem to be less attractive because of this “real woman” trend. To me, their size doesn’t matter as you can be gorgeous whether thin or obese. It’s just been a trend to actually pick really ugly women to be models. Ive seen models with noses like a potato, or massively gapped teeth, or shaped like tanks. I think it’s actually so that the average attractive woman can look at clothes and think, I’d look better in that than she does and so buy it.

Wow….I’ve been on mumsnet for sometime now and this is one of the worse comments I’ve read! I read some bad stuff but this!

Lunificent · 21/05/2022 19:48

I’ve seen adverts with non models in Hollister and M and S. It’s probably a good idea for athe reasons you’d imagine, but doesn’t make me any more or less likely to buy the clothes, perhaps less likely.
My preference is to see a model doing the advert then to see customers wearing the clothes in their reviews like Boden do. I quite like seeing the contrast between the idealised look and the actual look.

rocketfromthecrypt · 21/05/2022 19:49

The average UK woman is 5'5" and a size 16. If companies are only going to show one type of model, that's what they should go for IMO. Not 5'9" and size 8.

Merryclaire · 21/05/2022 19:50

YABU for saying not being model-thin is less attractive. That’s just your opinion and not very kind to say given that a lot of women who read your post won’t be that thin.
However I do think there is a trend to have either very skinny or very overweight models, and wish there were more that are representative of ‘those in the middle’, which is where most ladies sit. Where are all the size 12-18 models?

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 21/05/2022 19:50

Discovereads · 21/05/2022 18:40

YANBU in that current models do seem to be less attractive because of this “real woman” trend. To me, their size doesn’t matter as you can be gorgeous whether thin or obese. It’s just been a trend to actually pick really ugly women to be models. Ive seen models with noses like a potato, or massively gapped teeth, or shaped like tanks. I think it’s actually so that the average attractive woman can look at clothes and think, I’d look better in that than she does and so buy it.

You're eurocentric beauty ideals are showing.

Attractive noses come in sizes other than button.

I thought it was very interesting that supermodel Bella Hadid recently stated that she regrets the nose job she had in her teens and wishes she still had 'the nose of her ancestors.'

dottieautie · 21/05/2022 19:50

Ohmygosh I’m so sorry OP. It must be so offensive having to look at those women who aren’t shaped like prepubescent boys wearing clothes in public spaces and on media. It’s so hard, isn’t it when we’re having a variety of body shapes and types unwillingly shoved down our throats as if we want to be looking at old Vera down the street in her swirly patterned Lycra co-ords instead of a clearly anorexic model who performs perfectly as a coat hanger. Whatever happened to consent eh?

It’s shocking these women don’t hide themselves away and they really should only come out at night when it’s acceptable to us slim folx because we’re so drunk on the power of slim and high on food fumes of the restaurants we promenade past in our hair couture, that we no longer care.

And all those cellulite lumps? Ugh imagine having cavities between the skin and connective tissues where fat deposits can gather unevenly and then letting others see? The shame of it all. Someone ought to be telling them. Maybe that’s your vocation in life Op

I hear vango are looking for models, maybe they ought to only model tents? Might stop offending us normal people eh?

(and yes this is sarcasm OP, you’re a bit of a Richard head and absolutely unreasonable)