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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
AstroSurf · 20/05/2022 14:56

Don't worry about it. You did what had to be done.

EcafTnuc · 20/05/2022 14:56

You massively crossed a professional boundary. And the PP who mentioned being a sounding board is 100% correct despite you trying to drag misogyny into this. If you had a shitty day at work, and your husband went down to your office and played hell with your boss you would absolutely be pissed off, because it's not his battle to fight and wildly inappropriate.

You need to admit you're wrong, and apologise to your husband. But judging from your replies you won't accept you're unreasonable. So, it begs the question, why post?

Herejustforthisone · 20/05/2022 14:56

You may have just fucked that first class reputation. OP, I know it came from a good place but come on… you just see that what you did was terrible?

catscatscatseverywhere · 20/05/2022 14:57

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:41

As his partner, you are there to for him to sound off at, hear his woes and offer advise, you are not there to act on your own impulses regarding his work

Did you just fly in from the early 19th-century or something? I think even Jane Austen might have something to say about that.

Well, apparently your 21st century attitude didn't help either. Ask your husband.

hellrabbitishere · 20/05/2022 14:57

octagonspoon · 20/05/2022 14:51

Well he’ll only get that reputation amongst rank misogynists. For they are the only people who use terms like ‘screeching harpy’.

oh and i hate this crap as well , only on bloody mumsnet does it mean you are labeled a misogynist if you call another woman a screeching harpy or a fishwife 😂 what about all the posts on the relationship boards where a post is about an abusive male partner and the replies can vary along what a prick leave him or hes a cunt , what does it make those women who say those things about men then i wonder ?

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 14:57

OvOvO · 20/05/2022 14:50

To all you delightful people on here calling the OP a cow, fish wife and "a bit council" your posts have been reported.

Reported for what? I made a factual statement that someone standing having a screaming match on their doorstep woukd have been referred to sac”a bit council”
when I was growing up.

What’s offensive about reporting what kids in the North East called it?

Lavenderlast · 20/05/2022 14:59

You did the right thing. When this wasn’t affecting you, it was a matter for him to resolve. The moment the woman turned up at YOUR homr and started having a go at YOU, it became up to you to choose how to behave. The client was clearly a bully and shouting at her was absolutely the only way to get the message through. The idea they another £700 should come out of YOUR family account because the client is a bully is nust nonsense. You could have a very nice time for £700.

Try not to let your anger at the client cause a problem with your husband though. I’d suggest he write an email to the client saying that they have lost the parts, they have refused to replace them so he cannot finish the job, and thaf turning up at his home constitutes harassment and any such further harassment will be reported to the police. The email should then ask them to confirm within 5 working days whether they are going to replace the parts they lost, failing which he will consider the contract terminated by their behaviour.

Yorkie88 · 20/05/2022 15:00

I'm not sure why you changed your name for this. The story is so detailed that everyone involved would be able to identify you and the post.

And yes I get why you're so frustrated but your DH offloading to you is very different to you losing it with her. Its not about it being a man/wife thing...if anyone, partner or friend, shouted at someone at work on my behalf I'd be furious.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 15:01

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The “wife” in fishwife is from the middle-English for “woman”, so you’re not making any sense there.

Roselilly36 · 20/05/2022 15:01

The client should never have just turned up on the doorstep, but totally wrong to get involved with your partners business, I am not surprised your partner isn’t delighted. My DH would not be impressed either. You should have just said he’s not hear, I suggest you call him, and closed the door.

Oceanus · 20/05/2022 15:01

YANBU. 1) The client came to YOUR house (period) + 2) Then she tried to talk to YOU (more like corner you) about something she should have discussed with your DH therefore making it your business. + 3) You told her to go away and she had a go at you. = You defended yourself as I probably would have in your shoes, so I can't hold it against you.
I'd more worried about how a complete stranger thinks it's ok and completely acceptable to go to a builder's house and then have a go at their wife about an issue which isn't the wife's to start with. This sounds totally bonkers and threatening, can you imagine people bothering themselves with going to the house of people they simply disagree with? It's a good thing guns aren't that easily available and that you're "normal". What's next, stand outside ASDA for that not-so-nice-person to come out...?

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:02

oh and i hate this crap as well , only on bloody mumsnet does it mean you are labeled a misogynist if you call another woman a screeching harpy or a fishwife 😂 what about all the posts on the relationship boards where a post is about an abusive male partner and the replies can vary along what a prick leave him or hes a cunt , what does it make those women who say those things about men then i wonder ?

But OP isn't an abusive partner, so your 'comparison' doesn't stand up.

Oh! - & the term you are wondering about - when a woman says bigoted things about men who are NOT pricks, abusive, or cunts?
It's "misandry".
HTH

EvilPea · 20/05/2022 15:02

she turned up on your doorstep
she said ‘we need to come to an agreement’

I don’t blame you. Once your dh pauses I’m sure he’ll see it that way
Brew From another tradesman’s partner

NickyChavan · 20/05/2022 15:03

Yabu it is firstly not your place to do that.
I think you felt it was two wives going at it but that is his client. Also you made a total mockery of all the times your husband remained professional. He has put up with alot and still remained professional. You have likely embarrassed him and he will likely feel you crossed a line. I doubt he will confide in you so much about work issues in future.

Youseethethingis1 · 20/05/2022 15:03

If you had a shitty day at work, and your husband went down to your office and played hell with your boss you would absolutely be pissed off, because it's not his battle to fight and wildly inappropriate
I agree totally with this.
However, OP did not go to her DHs office. She was harassed by his client in her own home. So it's not the same scenario.
My husband would be furious that I'd been attacked in this way over something that's nothing to do with me, not angry with me for biting back.

Booklover3 · 20/05/2022 15:04

I’d have said much the same OP but I probably wouldn’t have shouted.

She crossed the line by coming to your house.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:06

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 20/05/2022 15:07

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 14:38

Five pages in and I've seen the phrase "fishwife" three times. Misogyny is alive and well!

@TeaStory Not so much misogyny as class snobbery. Fishwife is basically code for chav on here.

No - ‘fishwife’ is Meant literally as a coarse-mannered woman who is prone to shouting. That was literally the meaning I meant it

Just shouted at partner's client from hell
octagonspoon · 20/05/2022 15:07

Lord, there are posters here trying to pretend ‘screeching harpy’ and ‘fishwife’ are not misogynistic. Clue 1: they are only used against women. Clue 2: They are used again women who are asserting themselves or being angry. Men doing this are called ‘assertive’ or ‘dominant’ or, at worst, ‘aggressive’ none of which have the contemptuous ridiculing of ‘screeching harpy’ or ‘fishwife’. That is reserved for women’s anger only. Clue 3: screeching harpy is used when the woman in question has not screeched.

HTH.

Daftasabroom · 20/05/2022 15:08

@Dygger YANBU if she had wanted to keep the conversation on professional terms she should not have visited your home without an invite and she should certainly have made her excuses and left pronto when it was clear DH was out. She picked the argument with you.

TeaStory · 20/05/2022 15:09

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 20/05/2022 15:07

No - ‘fishwife’ is Meant literally as a coarse-mannered woman who is prone to shouting. That was literally the meaning I meant it

And, as your screenshot clearly shows, t is deemed “derogatory”.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 15:10

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You OK hun?

RedPanda901 · 20/05/2022 15:11

YANBU – she is unprofessional for turning up and arguing with you on your doorstep.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 20/05/2022 15:11

TeaStory · 20/05/2022 15:09

And, as your screenshot clearly shows, t is deemed “derogatory”.

And was absolutely intended to be derogatory

grapewines · 20/05/2022 15:11

Testina · 20/05/2022 14:51

Bloody hell.

So your response to your partner not saying thank for your lack of professional (on his behalf) is to plaster a very identifiable scenario all over Mumsnet?

I would hit the fucking roof if my husband made this post.

Even if I had felt supported by him in shouting at my nightmare client, I wouldn’t want this on line.

You’re a liability! Message MN and get this pulled.

Agreed.