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AIBU?

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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
ReadyToMoveIt · 20/05/2022 17:44

One final suggestion to everyone. When your pipes burst, or your boiler breaks down or your lights won't work, please be appreciative of the people you call on to sort the problem out. We're all so dependent on decent tradespeople, and so many people are so dismissive of them. Be nice to them

you seem to have decided that people who think YABU do so because we don’t respect tradespeople.
That’s not the case. I have the utmost respect for good, reliable tradespeople. Wouldn’t dream of being rude to one. Still think YABU. Not because the woman wasn’t an absolute twat, but because it wasn’t your place to have a go at her.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 17:45

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 17:40

And why is this Big Bad Boss allowing friends to railroad him into taking on clients he'd rather not?

And then despite having thirty staff, actually doing the work for these difficult clients himself.

I think that we both know the answer to this, as to how a strong independent professional lady with an RP accent has married a sparky and screams abuse at his clients when they come round to complain.

Apropos of nothing, does anyone else remember Jimmy Hill?

LadyEloise1 · 20/05/2022 17:45

I don't blame you.
You called her out when she turned up at your door whinging.

steff13 · 20/05/2022 17:46

She was unreasonable to come to your home and then try to engage you when you told her your partner wasn't home. However, could have easily said, "I'll let him know you stopped by, have a nice day," and closed the door. There was no need to react the way you did.

dworky · 20/05/2022 17:50

Baconandmaplesyrup · 20/05/2022 17:03

So? I listen to my husband shit. He listens to mine, doesn’t mean he gets to shout at my boss.

Confused

You'd be okay if she/he turned up unannounced, at your home to berate him?
And, it wasn't husbands boss.

Sleepingsatellite1 · 20/05/2022 17:57

I think yanbu as she came to your house, that’s outrageous on her part.

Bootothegoose · 20/05/2022 18:03

Hugely hugely unprofessional.

Any upper hand that your husband had has now been lost. The issue was for him to deal with, not you.

No, she shouldn't have turned up at your house but this was not your responsibility to liaise. He made the decision to continue providing them service, he knew what they were like. The term none players off the green comes to mind.

That being said, he also shouldn't be sounding off to you to the degree he has been and not expect some level of reaction. This was a lose-lose situation.

If he is as reputable as you say he is then perhaps make this a learning lesson of who he should take on as clients.

5zeds · 20/05/2022 18:11

@Dygger I can’t believe he spent a whole year being professional with an arse of a client and you were unable to be civil for a few minutes😱. Honestly if I was your dh I’d be absolutely furious with you. Poor guy. Learn not to engage in things for the future and apologies for making the shit job even shittier.

fromdownwest · 20/05/2022 18:11

Are you unreasonable for getting involved in your husbands annoying clients? Yes

Are you unreasonable for getting annoyed at your husbands clients who turn up on your doorstep with a suitcase full of attitude, hell no!

Baconandmaplesyrup · 20/05/2022 18:14

She clearly turned up at his house as it’s where he works from. Even though the op is giving it he’s the big I am. Because she knew where he lived.

and bottom line is it’s not the ops place to abuse his clients. He’s not a child.

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 18:19

fromdownwest · 20/05/2022 18:11

Are you unreasonable for getting involved in your husbands annoying clients? Yes

Are you unreasonable for getting annoyed at your husbands clients who turn up on your doorstep with a suitcase full of attitude, hell no!

But she was only involved because the woman showed up and engaged with her in the matter 🙄

ReadyToMoveIt · 20/05/2022 18:22

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 18:19

But she was only involved because the woman showed up and engaged with her in the matter 🙄

And it’s really easy to say ‘sorry, my husband isn’t home at the moment and it’s him you need to speak to’ and to close the door.

WibblyWobblyJane · 20/05/2022 18:25

Pinnies and Lippie. That’s all I needed to read.

YAU - the type who asks for opinions then lashes out and insults women at the mere hint of criticism.

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 18:40

ReadyToMoveIt · 20/05/2022 18:22

And it’s really easy to say ‘sorry, my husband isn’t home at the moment and it’s him you need to speak to’ and to close the door.

She had no business showing up at their house and deserves all she got. Professional courtesy doesn’t extend to this boundary being crossed.

Omega33 · 20/05/2022 18:41

You keep saying people disagreeing with you don't understand the trades, don't respect tradespeople, etc. Your husband works in the trades and he disagrees with you!
So does he need to get a better understanding of what tradespeople do as well?

girlmom21 · 20/05/2022 18:42

Professional courtesy doesn’t extend to this boundary being crossed.

It does when it's your partners professionalism that your behaviour will put into doubt.

ReadyToMoveIt · 20/05/2022 18:43

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 18:40

She had no business showing up at their house and deserves all she got. Professional courtesy doesn’t extend to this boundary being crossed.

I’m not saying she didn’t deserve it. She behaved like a twat.
That’s not why I think the OP was unreasonable though. Its her DH’s business, her DH’s client, her DH’s conversation to have. Which is why she should have told the woman to speak to her DH, and shut the door.

ColadhSamh · 20/05/2022 18:51

Dygger · 20/05/2022 17:24

Where did I mention my partner's boss? He doesn't have one. He is the boss. Perhaps we can have a discussion about how much someone in a relationship can reasonably expect to offload on their other half after the weekend.

Anyway, thanks to those who offered genuine responses and boo-hiss to the wind-up merchants. And a cheery wave to those putting on their pinnies and lippie and getting the tea ready for hubby when he gets home. Soon 1963 will be here and Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique and you can leave the bastard and go off and do something more interesting.

Friday evening beckons and I'm off for a drink with himself, who seems to have got over his initial why-on-earth-did-you-do-that response and is now ready to laugh at it. Perhaps it was a relief that at least one of us was able to say what we thought to her.

One final suggestion to everyone. When your pipes burst, or your boiler breaks down or your lights won't work, please be appreciative of the people you call on to sort the problem out. We're all so dependent on decent tradespeople, and so many people are so dismissive of them. Be nice to them.

Well said 👏👏👏👏

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 19:07

I think that we both know the answer to this, as to how a strong independent professional lady with an RP accent has married a sparky and screams abuse at his clients when they come round to complain.

@SlightlyGeordieJohn What are you getting at? That well spoken professional women cannot be married to tradesmen?
And OP didn’t scream abuse 🙄

LeaveIt · 20/05/2022 19:15

What’s RP?

Herejustforthisone · 20/05/2022 19:20

I can’t help but feel that those cheerleading the OP’s outburst don’t run businesses that rely quite heavily on word of mouth and trusted recommendations.

LynneBenfield · 20/05/2022 19:24

LeaveIt · 20/05/2022 19:15

What’s RP?

Received pronounciation

aka ‘talking like the queen’ or wartime radio announcers.

www.bl.uk/british-accents-and-dialects/articles/received-pronunciation

severrely · 20/05/2022 19:33

YAB vvvvv U.

Why don't you start your own business and let your partner run his?

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 19:35

severrely · 20/05/2022 19:33

YAB vvvvv U.

Why don't you start your own business and let your partner run his?

She says she already runs her own 😂

Gwenhwyfar · 20/05/2022 19:40

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 20/05/2022 13:39

I disagree. If OP had gone round their house or even just bumped into her in the street, but this woman chose to bring her grievances to the DH's home, and persisted in badgering a family member who had absolutely nothing to do with the build. Her behaviour was completely inappropriate and it sounds like she would benefit massively from being told to fuck off once in a while.

Yes, I think you're right. My first thought was that it wasn't her business, but then I realised the client had come to their home.
On the other hand, the DH probably doesn't have an office so that's the only place the client can go.