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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Creative34 · 20/05/2022 16:38

YANBU... she turned up to your house. That’s a step too far from her. You gave her some direct feedback which your partner should have dished out a while back

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:39

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:22

OP, whether you care what people here write or not, it does seem from what you said that you are unreasonably angry with your husband. He’s done nothing wrong here, but it sounds like he has an argument waiting for him when he comes in from work.

Why don’t you order in a meal that he likes, put his favorite drink in the fridge, and just let him know when he cones in that you are glad that he’s normally the one that has to deal with the difficult clients and that you’re glad that you won’t have to deal with this one again?

Aw bless your pretty little heart.

Op, maybe you should also put on a pretty little dress, some high heels, comb your hair and tie it back with a cute ribbon. Then make sure you have his slippers and pipe waiting for him, along with a whisky, then listen to him unburden all his woes about his day working out in the big outsides world, doing his manly man stuff and earning the money to pay for your pretty hair ribbons.

Butchyrestingface · 20/05/2022 16:40

LoveLarry · 20/05/2022 16:34

What were the clues in the OP that you were articulate and RP?

She hyphenated 'off-loaded' and 'hard-to-get-hold-of'.

Respect.

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 16:41

LoveLarry · 20/05/2022 16:34

What were the clues in the OP that you were articulate and RP?

Grin
speakout · 20/05/2022 16:41

I can't imagine being so invested in my OHs work.
I have very little idea what goes on in his day to day, often don't know which city he is in when he stays away.
He gets paid to do his work, which I know involves dealing with shitty stuff at times- that's why he gets paid.
It's his job- not mine.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:41

diddl · 20/05/2022 16:29

Surely you just tell them that you don't know anything about it?

If your partner is so good that he is turning down work it beggars belief that he took on something that he didn't even want to do.

Yes, a skilled and well-respected tradesman who employs thirty other people doesn’t seem the sort to take on a difficult client and then to do the work personally himself.

Whatever the back-story though, I do hope he’s coming home to stake and wine, not to a lecture and cold dinner.

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:43

BTW Op, you were not being unreasonable at all. The cheeky cunt got what she deserved, doorstepping you like that. How dare she and her husband accuse your DH of stealing the parts he put into their own hands.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:43

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:39

Aw bless your pretty little heart.

Op, maybe you should also put on a pretty little dress, some high heels, comb your hair and tie it back with a cute ribbon. Then make sure you have his slippers and pipe waiting for him, along with a whisky, then listen to him unburden all his woes about his day working out in the big outsides world, doing his manly man stuff and earning the money to pay for your pretty hair ribbons.

In your household does the person who’s in the wrong never do anything nice for the other one?

Or is it safe to assume you live alone?

Youaremysunshine14 · 20/05/2022 16:43

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:22

OP, whether you care what people here write or not, it does seem from what you said that you are unreasonably angry with your husband. He’s done nothing wrong here, but it sounds like he has an argument waiting for him when he comes in from work.

Why don’t you order in a meal that he likes, put his favorite drink in the fridge, and just let him know when he cones in that you are glad that he’s normally the one that has to deal with the difficult clients and that you’re glad that you won’t have to deal with this one again?

Should she time-travel back to the 1950s and put on a pinny to serve up his meal and drink??? Why should she stroke her DH's ego when she's understandably upset he's now going to cave to the client?

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 16:44

Yes, a skilled and well-respected tradesman who employs thirty other people doesn’t seem the sort to take on a difficult client and then to do the work personally himself
On the insistence of an apparently uninvolved "friend", as well...

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:45

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:41

Yes, a skilled and well-respected tradesman who employs thirty other people doesn’t seem the sort to take on a difficult client and then to do the work personally himself.

Whatever the back-story though, I do hope he’s coming home to stake and wine, not to a lecture and cold dinner.

Oh I think we can be sure he is coming home to a "stake". Probably right through his goolies.

Dygger · 20/05/2022 16:45

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:39

Aw bless your pretty little heart.

Op, maybe you should also put on a pretty little dress, some high heels, comb your hair and tie it back with a cute ribbon. Then make sure you have his slippers and pipe waiting for him, along with a whisky, then listen to him unburden all his woes about his day working out in the big outsides world, doing his manly man stuff and earning the money to pay for your pretty hair ribbons.

😅I know. I'm such a disappointment in so many ways!

OP posts:
HollyGoLoudly1 · 20/05/2022 16:47

Why don’t you order in a meal that he likes, put his favorite drink in the fridge, and just let him know when he cones in that you are glad that he’s normally the one that has to deal with the difficult clients and that you’re glad that you won’t have to deal with this one again?

It's been a while since I've laughed so much on MN 😂

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:48

Youaremysunshine14 · 20/05/2022 16:43

Should she time-travel back to the 1950s and put on a pinny to serve up his meal and drink??? Why should she stroke her DH's ego when she's understandably upset he's now going to cave to the client?

I was hoping she might be a bit nicer than the posts suggested, and was going to stop being angry at her poor husband who’s done nothing wrong. It seems though that you think that she’s right for being annoyed at him, for her loss of control and failure to handle the situation better.

DressingGownofDoom · 20/05/2022 16:49

Yeah I mean you shouldn't get involved with your work but she did turn up on your doorstep so 🤷🏻‍♀️

TheThreadisMildlyAmusing · 20/05/2022 16:50

"In your household does the person who’s in the wrong never do anything nice for the other one?

Or is it safe to assume you live alone?"

I'm afraid your assumption, however much you want it to be right, is completely wrong. My OH and live in 2022 though.

Baconandmaplesyrup · 20/05/2022 16:51

Totally surprised you run a business. I’d have assumed you didn’t work and were clueless on how to be proffessional. You behaved terribly and are so invested in the day to day minutia of his business I’d have assumed you’ve nothing else to Do

he is right, I am cringing for you.

Maggiethecat · 20/05/2022 16:54

@SlightlyGeordieJohn - she is right for being annoyed at him for being annoyed at her!

I agree with @TheThreadisMildlyAmusing and the goolie stake being the only one he’ll be getting!

Cervinia · 20/05/2022 16:55

YANBU, a lot of my family are self employed tradesmen and the amount of (usually wealthy) clients that treat them like shit and idiots is unbelievable, especially the ones by DB deals with in his home county of Surrey. They behave as though Queen Victoria was still on the throne and the tradies are servants to ride roughshod over because they are a lower class. The reality being, as we all know, that good professional tradesmen/women are worth their weight in gold and can pick and choose their jobs and earn a very good salary, and quite rightly so.

I'm on your side OP, people like her need a bloody reality check.

stairgates · 20/05/2022 16:56

I hope you and your husband can have a laugh about this job some day as its sad when work gets you down, the woman is a bit of a bully turning up on your doorstep trying to intimidate you like that, I hope she left red faced, I probably would have reacted a bit similar if it was here.

dworky · 20/05/2022 16:56

speakout · 20/05/2022 16:41

I can't imagine being so invested in my OHs work.
I have very little idea what goes on in his day to day, often don't know which city he is in when he stays away.
He gets paid to do his work, which I know involves dealing with shitty stuff at times- that's why he gets paid.
It's his job- not mine.

False equivalence, you are a whole other couple with different circumstances.

Cervinia · 20/05/2022 16:56

Baconandmaplesyrup · 20/05/2022 16:51

Totally surprised you run a business. I’d have assumed you didn’t work and were clueless on how to be proffessional. You behaved terribly and are so invested in the day to day minutia of his business I’d have assumed you’ve nothing else to Do

he is right, I am cringing for you.

*professional. I'm cringing for you.

Youaremysunshine14 · 20/05/2022 16:56

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 16:48

I was hoping she might be a bit nicer than the posts suggested, and was going to stop being angry at her poor husband who’s done nothing wrong. It seems though that you think that she’s right for being annoyed at him, for her loss of control and failure to handle the situation better.

I do think she's right to be annoyed at him for saying he'll now pay the £700 after the client turned up at their house and demanded that OP intervene in sorting it out. OP didn't just launch into a tirade at the woman – the woman turned up at their private address and caused a scene while continuing to accuse OP's husband of lying about losing the component. She stood up for him, knowing the awful stress this project has caused him and wanting it over for him, and his reaction was to cave and say he'll pay up. If it was that easy, why didn't he do it ages ago and stop the woman harassing them for the money?

Dygger · 20/05/2022 16:57

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 16:44

Yes, a skilled and well-respected tradesman who employs thirty other people doesn’t seem the sort to take on a difficult client and then to do the work personally himself
On the insistence of an apparently uninvolved "friend", as well...

You're right, he doesn't usually do much of the installation work himself, but they were crazy-busy and if he hadn't gone and done it the client would have been phoning and complaining. So he went and did it. Found that he couldn't finish the job, talked to them both, husband and wife, about when the plastering would be finished, gave them the boxes and told them to call him when the plastering was done.

The difficult client was taken on only because of pressure from my partner's friend and occasional work colleague who knew the clients and wanted my partner to do the work because he knew he'd do a good job for them. I assume they know where we live through him.

OP posts:
ReadyToMoveIt · 20/05/2022 16:58

Youaremysunshine14 · 20/05/2022 16:56

I do think she's right to be annoyed at him for saying he'll now pay the £700 after the client turned up at their house and demanded that OP intervene in sorting it out. OP didn't just launch into a tirade at the woman – the woman turned up at their private address and caused a scene while continuing to accuse OP's husband of lying about losing the component. She stood up for him, knowing the awful stress this project has caused him and wanting it over for him, and his reaction was to cave and say he'll pay up. If it was that easy, why didn't he do it ages ago and stop the woman harassing them for the money?

He said he should have just paid up and not told the OP about it. Not that he’s now going to pay up.

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