Had you heard of Amber Heard prior to this trial?

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He's suing for $50 million. She is countersuing for $100 million. 😂

Now I don't know a terrible lot about her diagnoses or lack of them (or whether she agrees with the BPD or histrionic diagnoses), but that is one heck of a fucking superiority complex going on!

What the actual fuck is this woman on?

I am not ashamed of myself. I'm ashamed that that lady is a woman and is trying to manipulate opinions of JD and lying and lying and lying. Not remotely ashamed of myself.

What I am ashamed of is her claiming abuse when every recording shows that she was the abusive one. Every single recording. I'm ashamed of her as she now casts all women who are in fact victims of abuse as liars.

I'm not talking about Johnny Depp; I'm talking about the fact you think a woman should be ashamed of herself for not wanting to support a totally toxic woman.

Just listened to the part of the trial covering the recording of her drunk and verbally abusing and belittling him and laughing and it's shocking. I don't support either as I think they are both twats who clearly abused each other pretty equally but that audio is awful to listen to. I don't know how she sat there and listened to that without being absolutely mortified and ashamed. In my opinion there is no "fault" proportionally heavy on one side or the other; they were both verbally and physically abusive, both took drugs, both controlling, both liars. AH has a tragic legal team, where she dug those up from who knows, JD has a better team so I'd say he will probably come out "on top" this time. Is that fair? Probably not. Both have effectively fucked themselves over career wise so I can't see any winners really. Those JD photos are online forever, as are the stories about AH shitting in a bed. It's not a great conclusion for the winner or loser.

I first became aware of her with the news about their dogs

Haven't seen any of her movies.

It's got to the point that I actually feel a bit sorry for her as a pop culture figure of derision.
And I'm more irritated that my kids who are looking at the coverage online seem to think Depp is a bit of a hero. He took his own kids along on this mad lifestyle and through this awful relationship and should take some adult responsibility. He was twice her age when they met!

I agree - the hero language is way off base.

The reason she wanted to be with him was he was well established (older) in the industry and rich and famous - he could connect her to his connections re major motion pictures and build her career, he was rich enough to support her and all her friends in a lavish and extravagant lifestyle, she benefited greatly from exposure as his girlfriend / wife, get a ton of money in a divorce and generally live off of someone else.

She wanted him because he was older. Then she went for Elon Musk. She wasn't interested in younger poorer less connected men. She knew what she was doing. She has said she never even loved Elon - but was with him for two years. He paid her donation pledges, he paid for her lawyers for the UK trial (and there has been specualtion based on the very low legal expenses she had in her financial documents that he continued to pay for her legal team for this trial as well) - again - she dated him to benefit from his finances and connections.

I had never seen her till she was on the news with Johnny about the dogs in Australia thing. Then when the court case started she was in the papers and on the news. No idea what films she'd done.

I thought Johnny Depp was about 40. Never seen a single film with him in it. I was blown away when I learned how much money and property he had! I knew nothing about either of them.

As a side note, I have been watching the trial and I am gobsmacked by how many people the couple employed-bodyguards,nurses,doctors,agents,accountants,property managers, and I'm probably just scratching the surface!

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She has said she never even loved Elon - but was with him for two years

she dated Elon Musk? I didn’t know that - I really need to get with the sleb gossip!

This whole saga is a humdinger SirChenjins.
Ellen Barkin had recorded testimony played in court as she and Depp were an item back in the day.

I liked All The Boys Love Mandy Lane, I didn't realise it was her until I saw your message! Been years since I saw it mind.

To me, Depp makes kid's films, or films adults can enjoy with kids. He plays charicatures and its always the same roles - the off-beat, naughty rogue with a heart of gold. Exactly the same role as he is playing in court.

Whereas I would actually watch one of Heard's films. I did watch All the Boy Loves Mandy Lane last night, and enjoyed it. I have no desire to watch the Pirates films, from the clips I've seen, they are ridiculously over-acted.

Why doesn't Depp just keep his head down and do some work? You know, turning up on time, maybe doing some indy films to get his reputation back up, instead of constantly sueing his ex wife? He needs to move on. I would guess he thinks she got the better of him because she didn't accept his behaviour and spoke back, and he can't cope with that. He's also going to go bankrupt pretty soon if he doesn't win, but even if he does, she will go bankrupt so he won't get paid.

I've never heard of a male victim being expected to be the perfect victim before.

I have never heard of any vicitm being expected to be perfect. There is no such thing as a perfect victim or person. There are many, many examples of imperfect women who have received a great deal of support.

Shouldn't Depp decided he wouldn't accept Amber's behaviour and also has a right to speak up. As a male victim he has far fewer options for speaking up. No hashtags or activist movements or people wanting to gain publicity from writing about male victims. They signed a NDA to both move on after the divorce. Amber decided that didn't apply to her, she didn't want to move on, she leaked pictures and recordings and did stories - she wanted to go public with her story. Once she decided to go public, Johnny did to - in the only way available to him as a male victim.

I have no interest in either of their movies and would be happy to never hear of either of them again but now that they both got to tell their stories in the way available to them.

An NDA to cover up the potential reporting of a crime of domestic violence isn't enforceable nor in the public interest midlifemusings.

And her postings weren't that specific and arguably didn't even breach the NDA.

I do think you are looking for a perfect, beyond criticism, victim here.

You couldn't be more wrong. An NDA does not stop anyone from reporting a crime to police. That isn't covered by an NDA and if a crime occured, she could absolutely have reported it.

I don't believe much of what she says given all the evidence that contradicts it. Nothing to be with being perfect - everything to do with honesty.

I just don't agree that her genitals are what determines she was a victim and not an abuser. That also isn't about perfection. Both ahe had a chance to tell their story. Both are far from perfect. Johnny's version is far more believable and backed up by much of the evidence.

Yes but only in connection to Depp and Musk. Before all this shit came out she seemed to be just a stock standard maneater/social climber in the Hollywood scene.

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Yeah but all those crappy superhero movies make money. She’s just the pretty face part, there are like 1000 people who could have done her part, it wasn’t memorable.

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I bet Depp could easily still get prestigious “credible” parts in weird things like Cohen Brothers movies or similar - and from there it’s a short step back to blockbusters. Of course Depp is near 60 so kind of pushing his luck as the leading man in blockbusters anyway. But it’s pretty easy to see him as a late career Bill Murray but more popular
or even doing a few tv things like a lot of the big stars do now.

its really only Hollywood standing in Depps way, it’s not like he’s really become controversial to the public like say Mel Gibson did, public is pretty much for Depp or just doesn’t care. Course even Gibson has done big stuff but I guess it helps when you direct your own ideas for movies. I can’t imagine Depp doing that.

Heard is just a kind of pretty face but nothing unique and probably getting too old for the hot girlfriend role she was cast in anyway. It would be far easier to just hire one of her type without the baggage.

That was a specific response to a specific comment suggesting that no one had seen Aquaman. Whether or not she is memorable in it is not what I was addressing. Certainly I saw Aquaman and remembered that she was in it, as well as Nicole Kidman as Atlanna. Everyone will have a different opinion about whether she's a memorable actress or not.

No, I'd never heard of her, but that's not saying much as I'm generally out of touch.

@RoseslnTheHospital

Fair enough. I saw some of it but those really aren’t my thing at all. I did notice Kidman but not her specifically that’s all. Just kind of seemed like a bland actress in the girlfriend part, no real star quality imo, kind of interchangeable with a lot of others.

You know what I mean? Like I’m 60 so I don’t generally choose to watch superhero’s movies but there are people in that type of part like say Kirsten Dunst in spider man where that actress is obviously a star you know? Heard doesn’t have “it” imo.

I only knew her as Johnny Depp's wife. Never heard of her before. I can't see people falling over themselves to employ her from now on to be honest. She may be (IMO) very pretty, but no-one will touch her professionally now. Her career is over. If she loses this case, she is Royally fucked. It will cost her millions of $$$ in legal fees.

Not heard of AH but I've not heard of most celebs.

Is this a joke? 'At 58 it's vanishingly unlikely he will be in any more well paid roles!' What a ludicrous and ageist comment!

True.