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Women "blank" pregnant woman on train, while men expected to rise to give seat (embarrassing double standards?)

154 replies

CurvyBirdy · 16/05/2022 09:54

Today a heavily pregnant woman got on a full train.

3 women saw her (eyes went back down to the ground)
3 men saw her, all in unison immediately rose.

This is really embarrassing behaviour - AIMU

OP posts:
2bazookas · 16/05/2022 16:24

I am a little old white haired lady. I always give up my seat to anyone who is pregnant?carrying a child/disabled. Then I give the stony evil eye stare to the nearest able bodied male until he gives up his seat to me. It never fails.

Cornishseawaves · 16/05/2022 16:35

I have found far far more women offering a seat when I was pregnant and helping with a buggy then men!

Jedsnewstar · 16/05/2022 16:41

romdowa · 16/05/2022 09:57

How do you know those women don't have physical disabilities which mean they would struggle to stand? Does being pregnant automatically mean you aren't able to stand on public transport? My neighbour worked as a hair dresser upto 4 days before her due date.

Always a ‘my nanna gave birth on a farm threw the baby over her shoulder and carried on working for 14hours….’ thrown in.
Mumsnet users really do hate pregnant women on here.

MsTSwift · 16/05/2022 16:42

I was heavily pregnant and on crutches as severe spd pretty much everyone offered me a seat! Londoners way better than Parisians for this.

Giraffesandbottoms · 16/05/2022 16:42

On MN everyone has a hidden disability

pixie5121 · 16/05/2022 16:56

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Oscarthedog · 16/05/2022 17:00

You are being unreasonable because according to Mumsnet everything can be blamed on the menz.

I see this constantly unless there is a massively disproportionate number of disabled women who happen to use trains where I live. Where women demand equally but still expect men to be chivalrous.

MintJulia · 16/05/2022 17:01

I remember getting a commuter train when I was about 6 months pregnant. I had a seat then a lady got on who was close to term and had a toddler with her as well.
Someone called out 'pregnant lady needs a seat' and all the male commuters hid behind their Times and pretended not to hear. After 20 seconds I stood up and said 'here, you need it more than I do' at which point a man did finally give up his seat.

I'm now of the view that Surrey's men are just SHABBY!

MintJulia · 16/05/2022 17:02

completely different on the tube though. I think I was offered a seat most mornings.

Mumoblue · 16/05/2022 17:07

When I was pregnant the only people who offered me seats were women. It really just depends on the people you’re around.

I still remember the tall, smartly dressed woman on the tube who got my attention and said “I can get you a seat” (she was also standing), and looked around with such confidence that two people jumped up to offer me a seat. I felt like I had been taken under her wing! 😂
If you’re out there, mystery woman, that meant so much to me!

stuntbubbles · 16/05/2022 17:08

emuloc · 16/05/2022 12:32

People are not obligated to offer a seat. It would be kind, yes if they would in certain situations, if they are aware of them. I would never tap somebody on the shoulder, to ask for a seat tough.

They are obligated if they’ve chosen to sit in the priority seat but don’t have a good reason to be there. Far better I tap someone on the shoulder to get a seat than stay standing and faint or puke.

comealongponds · 16/05/2022 17:09

Perhaps you/the pregnant woman should’ve opened your/their mouth to actually ask for a seat

YABVU you have no idea why specific women didn’t offer to stand

Giraffesandbottoms · 16/05/2022 18:34

@Oscarthedog

absolutely agree.

Duchess379 · 16/05/2022 19:15

I offer my seat to pregnant women. Even when I was on crutches with a dislocated kneecap! Another commuter looked mortified & offered her his seat instead!

5128gap · 16/05/2022 19:19

Interesting. I find the exact opposite.

Blossomtoes · 16/05/2022 19:21

Iwantmyoldnameback · 16/05/2022 10:20

I am an older woman and I gave my seat to a young girl who looked in danger of fainting. I did look round first but no one else was looking.
The people (usually young men) in the disability seats always seem to be very engaged in their phone games and totally oblivious - and no I don't believe they ALL have hidden disabilities.

Same. I stood up once to give a pregnant woman my seat on the tube and some little shit about a third my age shot into it. He obviously had little experience of older women because he looked petrified when I told him to get out of it immediately because I hadn’t stood up for him. In my experience it’s usually women who offer their seat.

BadNomad · 16/05/2022 19:24

Maybe the women thought that the men should "be kind" for a change. You got a seat. Why does it matter who gave up theirs?

hangrylady · 16/05/2022 19:31

I got the tube to work throughout both of my pregnancies and found the opposite to be true. Also if men did offer, it was rarely the suited banker types, usually the builders in paint splattered clothes or the hard looking tattooed men with beards. I certainly learned not to judge a book by its cover when living in London!

hangrylady · 16/05/2022 19:35

Also when I was pregnant myself I often gave my seat to other pregnant women or elderly people as I was OK standing.

BalloonsAndWhistles · 16/05/2022 19:36

You don’t know their personal circumstances. I have epilepsy and sometimes have absence seizures in public. Following one of those, I have to sit down or I’d fall over. I might not look disabled but I wouldn’t be able to give my seat up to anyone, including another disabled or pregnant person. I need to just sit and regain my strength, balance and cognition.

PrettyMaybug · 16/05/2022 19:36

As has been said, YABU to assume these women are able to stand.

ThisPooShallPass · 16/05/2022 19:37

I also remember last year in the maternity department- it was so overcrowded. Men were sitting I. Seats and heavily pregnant women were standing! It irritated me to no end, one of the midwives came out and told them to get lost, one time.

Not just men, rude people in general. But there's something particular irritating seeing men sitting in a women's health unit at the expense of women

disappear · 16/05/2022 19:38

When I was pregnant travelling on London buses, I was often offered a seat by men and women. Actually, when I was travelling by train with toddler DD, a woman offered us her seat. I must look weak.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 16/05/2022 19:40

OP if women had stood and not men youd have got very different responses.

hangrylady · 16/05/2022 19:45

ElCoh · 16/05/2022 10:28

No-one offers anyone a seat anymore! I couldn't even get a man to move his bag to allow me to sit on a very busy train last week.

There are all manner of reasons why someone may need a seat, just because you got pregnant (it's not a skill yknow) you're not the priority 😉

Attitudes like this make me worry about society! Pregnancy is not a disability and yes it's a choice but when did people stop giving a shit about others? I hope I'm leading by example when it comes to raising my children, because if my son or daughter grow up with an attitude like yours I'd consider myself a failure as a parent and would be totally ashamed.