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Amber Heard - but wait hear me out!! Watch this

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MrsMingech · 13/05/2022 19:09

So I was on the fence with these two, and I read the threads but didn't follow them and when I searched them I only found and old one.

My search efforts suck, clearly.

Theres many recordings, albeit put together by a clear DP Pom Pom shaker. But it can't be denied (unless it's suggested it's another woman).

Its so bullying, awful
and nasty, I couldn't list to it all.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5SaPZpFhcg

if there's a more relevant thread that I suspect I've have missed please link and I will ask for this to be deleted. I swear I did search first.

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Lesserspottedmama · 14/05/2022 08:25

They are both awful, total waste of everybody’s time, energy and attention. I have no doubt the media is obsessing on this for a reason, to distract from other things. Funny how they weren’t interested in the Ghislane Maxwell trial.

ICanSmellSummerComing · 14/05/2022 08:28

She's certainly not Passive in the tapes, she isn't talking in the tapes like someone afraid of monsters kicking off.

Having Said that I totally understand that abused people don't have to be Passive and stay silent to prove they'are abused either.

It's just weird she doesn't mention how he has Hurt her in these tapes?
All she mentions here is him abandoning her over the dog's?

Not the so called attacks in Australia and hostage situation?

I hope they play that in court!

It's weird.

All these recording but again nothing when he's supposedly goings for her in monster role?
I don't doubt he's a massive handful like being with the incredible Hulk!
It's just weird though all we have is moaning in a toilet?

MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 08:55

WeCouldBeSpearows · 14/05/2022 00:06

Interesting.

Op posted five hours ago.

The video, according to YouTube, was posted five hours ago.

You found that very quickly op, considering you aren't really following the case.

WTF 😂😂😂

I follow Christina Randall because I'm obsessed with true crime which is her usual posts.

She however is currently obsessed with the DP/AH stuff so she has put the True crime on hold while she posts about that. So I was notified of her new video when she posted it so I watched it.

You conspiracy weirdo 😁😂

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MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 08:57

Indicatrice · 14/05/2022 08:23

YABU OP for posting one link out of context when there’s hours of recordings.

Come back when you’ve summarised all the recordings into a one pager.

YES MISS!

<salutes>

Fuck me 😂😂😁

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ClaireEclair · 14/05/2022 10:42

Well the woman who posted this is very annoying and I had to skip past her parts (also very biased).

Here are my thoughts and it’s just my opinion. I have no idea what the context is and I don’t know how edited these recordings are. Johnny doesn’t say much at all. Amber sounds drunk and isn’t making a lot of sense. She keeps repeating herself. It seems to me there’s jealousy on both sides. Johnny talks about Magic Mike and Amber belittles his first big acting role when he was 20 (which seems odd). She’s also upset that he let her take the fall for her “home wrecker” reputation and for the dog incident in Australia.

I can’t work out the point of the conversation. Amber mentioned she had gone over to try and win him back. They both seem childish and unwilling to discuss anything and yet they both seem unable to walk away from each other so I’m guessing there was something between them. Maybe not love but weird obsession on both sides. They are both clearly toxic and a bad combination.

PrettyMaybug · 14/05/2022 10:54

@SpidersAreShitheads

There's absolutely nothing here that points to abuse imo. And if the roles were reversed and these accusations were being levelled at a woman it could be called "victim blaming". I could go through and answer each point but I think people make up their own minds, and nothing dissuades them from the position they've taken.

I don't think he's a great guy to have a relationship with but I haven't seen anything to indicate abuse. Even the recordings when he doesn't know he's being recorded and that Amber produced, he's not abusive. The name-calling is only ever after extensive provocation. I feel so bloody sad for him that he's being judged like this, and that he'll never now manage to shrug this off entirely. A woman would never carry this kind of tainted reputation based on zero evidence the way that JD inevitably always will now.

And as I say, I'm not a JD fan, so I'm completely unbiased in this. And I'm also a raging feminist so it goes against every bone in my body not to believe a woman who claims to be abused.

Excellent post. And better than I could ever have put it.

As I said, we don't know everything - and I would STILL like to know who recorded it. (Was Johnny doing it, I guess it must be him?)

However, stepping off the fence slightly...

I'm not gonna lie, I am leaning more to being on his side. I can't quite explain why. Maybe because I have always quite liked him, (as an actor - and a person,) because I know he was abused as a child (by his mother I think!) and because he seems fairly quiet and reserved. Also, there have been no previous incidents of violence from him from any previous women.

There is just something about Amber that gets under my skin. I just don't like her. And I am on Team Johnny. I hope he wins this case.

PrettyMaybug · 14/05/2022 10:56

MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 08:55

WTF 😂😂😂

I follow Christina Randall because I'm obsessed with true crime which is her usual posts.

She however is currently obsessed with the DP/AH stuff so she has put the True crime on hold while she posts about that. So I was notified of her new video when she posted it so I watched it.

You conspiracy weirdo 😁😂

Also! Gotcha Christina! Grin

TigerLilyTail · 14/05/2022 11:02

Alarae · 13/05/2022 20:19

I believe they were a toxic match made in hell.

She's clearly not a shining beacon for abused women considering she has been recorded saying she hit him and that no one would believe him.

He clearly abuses substances and even if he never laid a hand on her (I don't know what to think on this) he probably was emotionally abusive (throwing/breaking things etc).

There are no winners in this and there shouldn't be as it sounds like a mutual path to destruction.

I think you’ve summarized the entire situation in a few paragraphs there. No need for a 34-minute-long YouTube video on it.

Snaketime · 14/05/2022 11:06

There are many different audios, one is 1 hour long and on is over 4 hours long, she is horrible, bullying him and gasligthing him the whole time. There is also the one in Austalia where she says 'I didn't mean to cut his finger off' to Dr Kipper while in tears.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 14/05/2022 11:08

they deserve each other.

ginghamstarfish · 14/05/2022 11:10

I neither know nor care which of these self-indulgent people is in the right, but yesterday saw a clip in which she was sitting in the dock (or whatever it's called) and laughing with someone, a legal person I guess, then turned around to face the court and instantly assumed a sad teary looking expression, fast as lightning.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 14/05/2022 11:16

that is a horrible video

ICanSmellSummerComing · 14/05/2022 11:17

Re the film's roles She said he was controlling and didn't want her doing.many Types of film.
Ok, weird and controlling but she's put this across in court as if she was simpering and cowed by him and yet she is clearly Able to give the abuse back??

MrsLargeEmbodied · 14/05/2022 11:28

who on earth is taping them?

MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 12:13

I've no idea who is taping. It doesn't make sense that Amber is, but JD seems to wasted to have the wherewithal to tape.

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WeCouldBeSpearows · 14/05/2022 12:21

MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 08:55

WTF 😂😂😂

I follow Christina Randall because I'm obsessed with true crime which is her usual posts.

She however is currently obsessed with the DP/AH stuff so she has put the True crime on hold while she posts about that. So I was notified of her new video when she posted it so I watched it.

You conspiracy weirdo 😁😂

'conspiracy weirdo' made me laugh. A lot.

It's not weird to be curious about the fact that both things happened five hours earlier, and the video is over half an hour long... so you must be hella quick off the mark to see that it's there, watch it, then post the link on here..

No conspiracies mentioned!

Pumperthepumper · 14/05/2022 12:24

ginghamstarfish · 14/05/2022 11:10

I neither know nor care which of these self-indulgent people is in the right, but yesterday saw a clip in which she was sitting in the dock (or whatever it's called) and laughing with someone, a legal person I guess, then turned around to face the court and instantly assumed a sad teary looking expression, fast as lightning.

I’ve seen that - it’s reversed. So in reality she was sitting teary eyed and then turned and laughed. It’s so easy to doctor videos these days.

MrsMingech · 14/05/2022 12:25

WeCouldBeSpearows · 14/05/2022 12:21

'conspiracy weirdo' made me laugh. A lot.

It's not weird to be curious about the fact that both things happened five hours earlier, and the video is over half an hour long... so you must be hella quick off the mark to see that it's there, watch it, then post the link on here..

No conspiracies mentioned!

In my OP, it says I couldn't listen to it all because it's so horrible.

Glad your daftness made you laugh though. 😊

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Pumperthepumper · 14/05/2022 12:26

Someone on another thread said Amber is too unlikeable to be a victim, and I totally agree that’s what people think.

Its totally possible to be a víctim and an abuser. Most serial killers are.

WeCouldBeSpearows · 14/05/2022 12:30

In my OP, it says I couldn't listen to it all because it's so horrible

No, it says you couldn't 'list' to it all. But you seemed to have listened to more than 13 minutes.

Glad your daftness made you laugh though. 😊

I would love you to explain why your unlikely but just about possible timeline makes me daft!

JetTail · 14/05/2022 12:35

I simply do not believe a single word out of her mouth. I don't believe the non-tears. I don't believe the facial contortions she's pulling to 'act' upset visually. I don't believe a word she says.
I do however, believe him. I believe that his responses are very slow and measured and real. He seems to be generally mild-mannered. And for me, the most convincing testimony was the Scottish body guard. Clearly he is very loyal but I don't believe that he would lie to protect JD if he had knowledge that he was abusing Amber.

JetTail · 14/05/2022 12:37

And what I find most amusing about her is that some of her suits resemble a judge's robes lol.

JetTail · 14/05/2022 12:45

Also, anything he appears to have done or said has been in defence.

Pumperthepumper · 14/05/2022 12:45

JetTail · 14/05/2022 12:45

Also, anything he appears to have done or said has been in defence.

The rape with the broken bottle?

JetTail · 14/05/2022 12:50

Pumperthepumper · 14/05/2022 12:45

The rape with the broken bottle?

You believed that shit?