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Amber Heard - but wait hear me out!! Watch this

449 replies

MrsMingech · 13/05/2022 19:09

So I was on the fence with these two, and I read the threads but didn't follow them and when I searched them I only found and old one.

My search efforts suck, clearly.

Theres many recordings, albeit put together by a clear DP Pom Pom shaker. But it can't be denied (unless it's suggested it's another woman).

Its so bullying, awful
and nasty, I couldn't list to it all.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5SaPZpFhcg

if there's a more relevant thread that I suspect I've have missed please link and I will ask for this to be deleted. I swear I did search first.

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Onthedunes · 02/06/2022 13:42

Amber is no innocent.

Johnny is no innocent.

Both people with ambitious, ruthless streaks, you must have to be in that industry, no matter how much people want to portray each side as a victim but she overstepped in the war against him.

Johnny was very concerned about his legacy, for his children, his future grandchildren and so on, this stuff stays with families for generations, especially if famous.

To be called a rapist is probably just about the worst thing you can be called if you are a man, so now Johhny can die in the knowledge that he had his say and was vindicated.

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:23

I think that might well have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Accusing him of sexual violence. FFS. Jesus. How low was she willing to go?

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:27

I very much suspect that for him, it was, his good name. His reputation. She painted him as a wife-beater and someone who raped her with a bottle of vodka? Never a fucking police report. Nothing. No evidence whatsoever of him being violent or abusive. Yes, there are recordings of him trying to defend himself under a barrage of fucking belittling insults about his career, his age, his being fat etc.
I know that it's hard to understand that women can abuse. But they fucking can. I'm a victim of my mother. Heinous abuse. Horrific, horrible, continuous violence and abuse.

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:30

Women abuse. And far from highlighting the metoo movement - she has fucking destroyed it.
She made the most heinous accusations against him. Proven to be false. She has damaged women's credibility. Jesus Christ. If you can't see that, then I give up.

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:33

She has set women back by decades. The recordings were unequivocal! His injuries! You'd want to be a twit to not see that she was lying? That she could destroy his reputation, his career, and very possibly, his relationship with his children, is horrible. And I strongly suspect that the latter is why he pursued this case. He never once asked his children to testify.

OvaryActions · 02/06/2022 15:16

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:30

Women abuse. And far from highlighting the metoo movement - she has fucking destroyed it.
She made the most heinous accusations against him. Proven to be false. She has damaged women's credibility. Jesus Christ. If you can't see that, then I give up.

This attitude pisses me off. One woman can not damage all women's fucking credibility.
Only in the eyes of misogynists.

Stop pedalling this fucking bullshit.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 02/06/2022 16:07

It would appear that a certain poster has a bit of an agenda. @JetTail How many times did you report your mum to the Police when she abused you?

Binkybix · 02/06/2022 16:15

I think I’ll go with the UK trial result rather than the revolting circus this one has become.

But FYI the jury also found that his lawyers had defamed her by calling it a hoax so where does that leave us? It was or wasn’t true?

TBH my bet is that they were both abusive.

Friars23 · 02/06/2022 18:43

But FYI the jury also found that his lawyers had defamed her by calling it a hoax so where does that leave us? It was or wasn’t true?

Heard only won one count of the 3 statements made by Depp’s previous lawyer, Waldman. In the two counts she lost Waldman referred to it being a hoax too. It is said the decision was made in her favour for Waldman’s second statement as he said Heard and her friends roughed up the penthouse after the first police left then called the police again. The police testified that no one rang them to go out again but for some reason a second set of police officers called a few hours later. They didn’t testify to seeing any damage in the penthouse either so no proof of this one incident.

Friars23 · 02/06/2022 18:47

Further to my comment above, attached are the 3 statements Waldman made. The jury found for Amber Heard statement 2, but not the other 2.

Amber Heard - but wait hear me out!! Watch this
Midlifemusings · 02/06/2022 20:01

Friars23 · 02/06/2022 18:43

But FYI the jury also found that his lawyers had defamed her by calling it a hoax so where does that leave us? It was or wasn’t true?

Heard only won one count of the 3 statements made by Depp’s previous lawyer, Waldman. In the two counts she lost Waldman referred to it being a hoax too. It is said the decision was made in her favour for Waldman’s second statement as he said Heard and her friends roughed up the penthouse after the first police left then called the police again. The police testified that no one rang them to go out again but for some reason a second set of police officers called a few hours later. They didn’t testify to seeing any damage in the penthouse either so no proof of this one incident.

There was a second 911 call made. There is a recording of the call.

In statement 2 waldman includes her lawyer and publicist being involved in the staging / hoax - that really didn't have evidence - so defamation.

Friars23 · 02/06/2022 23:54

@Midlifemusings, thanks, that’s useful info as I couldn’t find there being anything about a second phone call so good to know.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 00:36

OvaryActions · 02/06/2022 15:16

This attitude pisses me off. One woman can not damage all women's fucking credibility.
Only in the eyes of misogynists.

Stop pedalling this fucking bullshit.

But men can damage all men's credibility? Righto.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 00:37

OP, you can't be surprised PPs didnt want to listen to it. She's a woman!

if it was of Johnny, they'd be on it like a fly on shit.

on MN, women are right, always right, and if theyr enot right its someone elses fault, and if you disagree you're misognystic.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 00:38

Binkybix · 02/06/2022 16:15

I think I’ll go with the UK trial result rather than the revolting circus this one has become.

But FYI the jury also found that his lawyers had defamed her by calling it a hoax so where does that leave us? It was or wasn’t true?

TBH my bet is that they were both abusive.

Ah.

Going with the one that Amber won, like many others. I wonder why.

WOuld you have gone against the 'circus' if Amber won?

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 00:38

Pumperthepumper · 15/05/2022 08:28

Oh no, he’s definitely toxic too. Would you want your daughter in a relationship with him?

I'd rather my child in a relationship with him than a relationship with Amber, every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

Binkybix · 03/06/2022 02:01

Going with the one that Amber won, like many others. I wonder why.WOuld you have gone against the 'circus' if Amber won?

Well, equally, why do you go with the one that she lost? I wonder why. I would have thought the US trial was a circus that wasn’t really suitable for a jury trial whatever it had gone, yes. As I say, my bet is they are both abusers.

OvaryActions · 03/06/2022 07:27

"But men can damage all men's credibility? Righto."

You'll have to point out where I said that @minutesturntohours

Pumperthepumper · 03/06/2022 08:05

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 00:38

I'd rather my child in a relationship with him than a relationship with Amber, every day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

No, forget Amber - would you want your kid in a relationship with Johnny Depp?

chocolatemademefat · 03/06/2022 09:34

Lost the will to live waiting for the actual video. Can’t think of any two people I care less about.
YABU wasting your time on this.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 10:26

Binkybix · 03/06/2022 02:01

Going with the one that Amber won, like many others. I wonder why.WOuld you have gone against the 'circus' if Amber won?

Well, equally, why do you go with the one that she lost? I wonder why. I would have thought the US trial was a circus that wasn’t really suitable for a jury trial whatever it had gone, yes. As I say, my bet is they are both abusers.

Because she should have lost both.

They both are toxic, but she's a liar and he's not. He's a threat only to himself and she's a threat to all of us.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 10:27

Pumperthepumper · 03/06/2022 08:05

No, forget Amber - would you want your kid in a relationship with Johnny Depp?

Interesting that you're not answering the question - I have already answered yours.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 10:28

OvaryActions · 02/06/2022 15:16

This attitude pisses me off. One woman can not damage all women's fucking credibility.
Only in the eyes of misogynists.

Stop pedalling this fucking bullshit.

Jet is right.

minutesturntohours · 03/06/2022 10:28

JetTail · 02/06/2022 14:27

I very much suspect that for him, it was, his good name. His reputation. She painted him as a wife-beater and someone who raped her with a bottle of vodka? Never a fucking police report. Nothing. No evidence whatsoever of him being violent or abusive. Yes, there are recordings of him trying to defend himself under a barrage of fucking belittling insults about his career, his age, his being fat etc.
I know that it's hard to understand that women can abuse. But they fucking can. I'm a victim of my mother. Heinous abuse. Horrific, horrible, continuous violence and abuse.

You're right, Jet.

JetTail · 03/06/2022 10:40

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 02/06/2022 16:07

It would appear that a certain poster has a bit of an agenda. @JetTail How many times did you report your mum to the Police when she abused you?

As a child. Never.