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Can I take a puppy into a shop?

429 replies

manzolini · 11/05/2022 11:48

A non-food shop so like matalan, new look, next etc as long as she is in a sling and doesn't touch the floor?

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Mfsf · 11/05/2022 13:23

KnitPurlKnitPurl · 11/05/2022 13:18

Agree, there is no need. The only "need" is that of the owner, who wants everyone to love their animal as much as they do.

It's SO inappropriate. Inappropriate in clothes shops, completely unreasonable anywhere selling food.

It is actually important to socialise the dog . This thread is full of weirdo pet haters !! Who doesn’t love seeing a puppy ??

vodkaredbullgirl · 11/05/2022 13:23

Dog haters are out in force today Smile

MozerellaSalad · 11/05/2022 13:23

Primark allow it (indeed welcome dogs)
TK Maxx allow

Just google

eastegg · 11/05/2022 13:24

wintersgold · 11/05/2022 13:13

To socialise the puppy, I would imagine. Young puppies need to be exposed to many different environments and sights when they're little
I will definitely be taking my puppy to as much dog-friendly shops as I can, it's a great experience for them & allows them to grow up more confident and well-adjusted

Presumably this need for dogs to be socialised is not a new thing. They’ve always needed that, right? So how have people managed to socialise their puppies during all this time that dogs have not been allowed in shops?

I sense a drip drip effect here, where pretty soon dogs are going to be allowed everywhere.

In answer to the OP’s actual question, I suppose you could ask as it may, given the pro-dog climate, be allowed in certain shops.

BobbinHood · 11/05/2022 13:24

littlepeas · 11/05/2022 12:10

OP - maybe get this moved to the doghouse - people will be knowledgeable and helpful on that board.

Some people really don't like dogs and because this is AIBU they will happily say so.

If it helps, my dogs live a very 'doggy' lifestyle, but I still carried them around and took them places pre-jabs - I don't care if people thought I looked ridiculous.

If you want general opinions from people who aren’t crazily obsessed with dogs are likely to shop or work in clothes shops then AIBU is as good as anywhere else.

FWIW I’m pretty indifferent to dogs, but don’t think a puppy should be brought into any shop that doesn’t otherwise allow dogs. It’s still a dog.

wintersgold · 11/05/2022 13:24

KnitPurlKnitPurl · 11/05/2022 13:20

And the socialisation argument does not wash. Puppies do not need to be socialised in shops, because dogs do not belong in shops.

How did all dog owners manage pre-2017ish when it would never have crossed anyone's mind that it was in any way appropriate to take a dog into a shop?

In London a lot of shops allow dogs. And even if the dog won't be a regular visitor, it is still a new experience and a good way to build confidence for the puppy.

You may disagree with it all you want, but dog friendly shops will still exist

ZeroFuchsGiven · 11/05/2022 13:26

They don't need to be taken clothes shopping to be socialised. Utterly ridiculous

I couldn't agree more, this is not about socialisation at all, this is about owners wanting to show the world how wonderful their fur babies are.

SoupDragon · 11/05/2022 13:26

vodkaredbullgirl · 11/05/2022 13:23

Dog haters are out in force today Smile

Yeah, hate the nasty, smelly things.

<<looks a at spaniel contentedly snoring on the sofa>>

Alternatively, the people who simply understand that dogs are not people and don't need to go everywhere are out in force.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2022 13:26

Lockheart · 11/05/2022 13:22

Growing up in the 90s I remember my parents asking if it was ok for the labrador to go in the shop when we were on holiday. Just like today, sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn't.

Non-assistance dogs have always been allowed in some shops and not in others.

I used to do a paper round as a teen (mid 90s), and took my dog. He was always allowed in the shop whilst I was sorting preparing my round. The shop staff always snuck him a few chocolate mice from the pick and mix.

wintersgold · 11/05/2022 13:27

eastegg · 11/05/2022 13:24

Presumably this need for dogs to be socialised is not a new thing. They’ve always needed that, right? So how have people managed to socialise their puppies during all this time that dogs have not been allowed in shops?

I sense a drip drip effect here, where pretty soon dogs are going to be allowed everywhere.

In answer to the OP’s actual question, I suppose you could ask as it may, given the pro-dog climate, be allowed in certain shops.

They tried to find other ways to socialise (pubs, cafes, outdoor venues, streets) & I imagine struggled more to plan ahead. Dog friendly shops make socialisation much easier and more accessible for new dog owners. Some owners just wouldn't have tried in the past (and may have raised anxious reactive dogs).

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/05/2022 13:27

childofthecorn · 11/05/2022 12:22

I wouldn't. What if you're next to someone severely allergic, or they have an accident? You should not foist your dog onto other people in an enclosed environment when they just want to do a bit of shopping.. (And i have a dog)

This.

I cannot see any good reason to take a dog into a shop. Why would a dog ever need to go into a shop?

TeaKlaxon · 11/05/2022 13:27

wintersgold · 11/05/2022 13:13

To socialise the puppy, I would imagine. Young puppies need to be exposed to many different environments and sights when they're little
I will definitely be taking my puppy to as much dog-friendly shops as I can, it's a great experience for them & allows them to grow up more confident and well-adjusted

It is also super convenient if you can have your dog with you when you need to do some errands when you're out.

My dog is good at being left alone for a few hours. He'll curl up and sleep for the most past. So I don't need to take him to shops because he can't be alone. But I still prefer to minimise the time he is alone if I can at all.

Moreso though, being able to combine trips is really helpful. If I drive out somewhere with the dog for a walk, being prevented from going into any shop, cafe or restaurant as some here would like (unless I was willing to let him tied up or in the car, which I'm not), then I have to choose between having my dog or being able to get what I need to do done in the day. And in some cases, that choice is reasonable and necessary - if I need to visit a friend in hospital or go to a doctors surgery, then of course I can't combine that with having my dog out and I can plan accordingly. But we should only exclude dogs where it is absolutely necessary for health and hygiene to do so.

Twentypast · 11/05/2022 13:28

ZeroFuchsGiven · 11/05/2022 11:58

I miss the good old days when dogs were just that....dogs, not 'fur babies' carried about in slings and pushed about in pushchairs. I dont think these people know how ridiculous they look Grin

My dog has a stroller. She's 15 and can't walk far but still enjoys getting out. She'll climb out and potter about, have a sniff, go to the loo etc. It improves her quality of life and I really don't care if you think I look ridiculous.

Conversely people use slings when the puppy needs to go out and be socialised (the younger the better) and will not have had their jabs yet.

manzolini · 11/05/2022 13:28

@dizzydizzydizzy if that needs explaining to you then I despair.

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vodkaredbullgirl · 11/05/2022 13:28

Got 2 lab sleeping on the sofa next to me.

Peoniesandpeaches · 11/05/2022 13:29

feraldiggy · 11/05/2022 12:01

I do, pup in a sling and take him shopping. You'll find whilst most places have a no dogs allowed policy a lot of staff are delighted to see your pup. Just risk it, the worst that can happen is you're asked to leave. This has only happened to me once and I was polite, apologised and left.

Please don’t do this. It’s a proper asshole thing to do. There are policies for a reason and it’s not fair on those of us terrified or allergic to dogs. There are less and less places we can go without people breaking the rules too.

feraldiggy · 11/05/2022 13:29

KnitPurlKnitPurl · 11/05/2022 13:20

And the socialisation argument does not wash. Puppies do not need to be socialised in shops, because dogs do not belong in shops.

How did all dog owners manage pre-2017ish when it would never have crossed anyone's mind that it was in any way appropriate to take a dog into a shop?

Excuseeee me, aged 13 I took my Bichon into Harvey Nichols every Saturday with me. This was way before 2017...in fact you can blame Paris Hilton for this Grin

SoupDragon · 11/05/2022 13:30

It's funny how people that don't think dogs should be everywhere that people go are always labelled Dog Haters. Even when they clearly have dogs themselves. 🤷🏻‍♀️

XenoBitch · 11/05/2022 13:30

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/05/2022 13:27

This.

I cannot see any good reason to take a dog into a shop. Why would a dog ever need to go into a shop?

I will be going on a short break soon with my dog. She will have to come in shops with me (leaving them tied up outside is not safe), as leaving at home isn't an option.

JudgeJ · 11/05/2022 13:30

manzolini · 11/05/2022 12:08

No one cares, that wasn't the point of the post anyways. Do keep up Grin now off you pop.

Oh dear, you do seem to have a problem with anyone who doesn't fall over themselves to say you should be able to take your mutt into a shop!

GrendelsGrandma · 11/05/2022 13:31

I like dogs. But shops are not the place for them. They piss on things, cause havoc, and some people have allergies. You should be able to go in a shop without looking out for dogs.

I barely ever go to shops now I have small children because I think most of the above applies to them. There's not much you can't just buy online.

TeaKlaxon · 11/05/2022 13:31

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/05/2022 13:27

This.

I cannot see any good reason to take a dog into a shop. Why would a dog ever need to go into a shop?

Convenience. So a dog owner doesn't have to make multiple trips for no good reason.

To give an example, until I knew John Lewis allowed dogs, if I wanted to go to John Lewis, it's about half an hour on public transport and half an hour back. There is a great dog walk near that John Lewis.

If I needed to go to John Lewis and also wanted to take my dog on that walk, I would have to do add in an extra hour of unnecessary travel (and probably deal with the same misery guts objecting to my dog being on a bus). Which might be reasonable if there was a good reason to exclude them, but there really isn't.

It's up to individual businesses. I am far more likely to spend my money at places that respect the convenience of their dog owning customers (even when my dog isn't with me, I am more likely to go to John Lewis now because I think that pro-customer approach should be encouraged).

SoupDragon · 11/05/2022 13:31

manzolini · 11/05/2022 13:28

@dizzydizzydizzy if that needs explaining to you then I despair.

Translation: I can't make a proper explanation because I actually know they have no reason to be in a clothes shop so I won't bother.

Flavabobble · 11/05/2022 13:32

I would have allowed it as long as it was off the ground, but you would have been asked to leave if other customers complained.

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/05/2022 13:32

That's kind of rude OP.

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