Is Starmer seriously going to resign???

[Swayingpalmtrees]

I have been waiting for a thread to come up about this, but I can't see one to date. I can't believe Keir Starmer has now said he will resign (and Angela Rayner as well) Potentially leaving the Labour party with no leader at all!

Looking at the 'evidence' that is well known and has been published, it appears the Indian takeaway was pre ordered (due to its size) and pre planned according to the staff at the Indian and the leaked memo, it did include quite a number of people and bottles of beer etc and drinking. It was late into the night, so not work related, and no one is suggesting anyone continued to work afterwards as it was so late. I don't see how this is any different to the No10 arrangements! So how on earth will they avoid a fine??

Sir Keir's speech was so wobbly I actually thought he was resigning there and then, and although I appreciate the sentiments of integrity and honour, where on earth does that leave the LP with under two years to the election or less?

Who would replace him? Do we have any thoughts on a plan of any kind?

I am kind of aghast, we are in the middle of a European war, on the cusp of potentially WW3, I am not sure this is a responsible action given the seriousness of our predicament with Russia whom are threatening us on a weekly basis with nuclear war. At the very very least, we need a firm hand on the tiller, so to speak, we do not have time to be squabbling over beer and cheese.
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How very patronising. Labour voters are well able to work out that a period of intensive work that is emphatically not restricted to 9-5 is necessary in the run-up to an important election - as demonstrated by the fact that this nonsense hasn't dented Starmer's standing in the polls.

Ordering a takeaway with a couple of bottles of beer when you’ve been working flat out and have a frazzled team working all the hours is completely different to organising a lovely party and sending out invitations OP and Starmer is obviously very confident that most reasonable people will see that including the police.

I think OP is one of those Conservative HQ dogsbodies who is there on work experience cause her daddy is high up in the Conservative party, went to a posh boarding school, has never met a genuine member of the public in her life, has no idea how we think, that we can even think at all, and thinks we are thick enough to believe her, the daily Mail and the sun’s nonsense take on this. We’re not love. It may startle you to know that we have brains.

"Suggest that if he is not fined it is not because he didn't break the rules but because the police are corrupt"

Another one ticked off the 'to do' list, right?

Who on earth is going to eat all of that hos 😮 No one is going to order all of that food for ONE person!!!! At least try and look like you are working within the normal range of consumption when you are bending the maths to suit!

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you must be very young, OP (or geographically blinkered)

That's a massive blow out though, not a quick working meal.

Things I’ve eaten while working:

pizza and beers while launching a magazine - not a dinner party
burritos and beers on press night - not a dinner party
dinner and cocktails at a restaurant - not a dinner party, a meeting

They could have returned to the hotel and ordered room service but not all hotels offer 24 hour room service, late room service is often insubstantial uncooked food like sandwiches, and as a pp points out, it’s often policy when working late to feed people before they go home - otherwise you’re not eating til you’ve “sauntered” to the hotel, ordered, and waited for delivery. People working late need sustenance. Besides which, ordering the takeaway in advance means they were guaranteed to be able to keep working, otherwise they’d have all had to go back to hotels to eat, even if they weren’t finished.

Have you never worked past 10pm? Lucky you… plenty of people work past 10pm all the time. Not unusual for management to order them some food - it means they don’t have to break from work to go out and get something to eat. Also a nice thing to do when people are working hard.

Also common in some industries to drink at work - DH and DBro work in IT and advertising and both of them are given beers at company meetings.

But the birthday do didn't happen in his home, nor did the garden party. Or the leaving do.

They won't be following any protocol, they will be applying the law. Which had changed in 2021 from what it was in 2020. So the same events could have a different outome as the actual law was different.

Not that they are the same events, they are very different.

You'll be needing a bottle of lager with that too Hospedia. Not sure whether that will blow the £10pp budget.

As others said, he will not be fined because it’s not what Durham police do. Although he should resign for being a weak dishcloth. And his deputy actively puts votes off. So Labour’s problem is not that they may lose Starmer and Rayner as leaders. Their problem is that these two planks of wood are in charge in the first place.

How feeble that you just say I am a tory, without a shred of evidence, I take that as a signal that you can't argue with the facts so now trying to personally attack me.

You will find nowhere that I am of any political class, like most people, I don't care to follow traditional party lines and parties. I am a swing voter, but I see this as a stitch up - a very unfair stitch up. And I hope the police do not let themselves or the country down.

Have you looked at tbe prices for tbe Durham restaurant in question? They’re WAY more than anything I’ve paid in Lo don!!

www.spiceloungedurham.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/spice_lounge_main_menu_march_2022.pdf

Starter, main, side, bread. That's a takeaway meal.

Even if they shared starters, rice, and bread as one between two so everyone had their own main dish and half a portion of rice/bread/starter, you still couldn't feed 30 people for £200 from that restaurant.

Got any more straws to grasp at?

Who on earth is going to eat all of that hos

What, a curry, some rice, a nan bread with a samosa? In other words a very typical Indian meal for one?

Youre looking ridiculous now, op.

How feeble that you just say I am a tory, without a shred of evidence, I take that as a signal that you can't argue with the facts so now trying to personally attack me.

"Just because I regurgitate all the spurious tory attack points and even claim starmer gettign off will be because of police corruption you dare to call me a tory! Outrageous!"

Alcohol is not illegal in most places of work. Some comapnies may have policies regarding alcohol and there are health and safety rules around operating dangerous machinery etc. But illegal, no. Really OP you are making yourself sound very ignorant.

This is why the Left loses to often. They have principles (often rather wrong-headed, as in this case) when the Tories have none.

Massive blow out? That's a normal meal to me.

I hope he's fined, it will be hilarious watching them both backtrack

Massive blow out? That's a normal meal to me.

Anyone else now absolutely gasping for a jalfrezi and a fizzy lager?

And what is painfully obvious on here is in fact the LP bleeding hearts churning out every excuse under the sun. Defending the indefensible.

We have a fair and just police force, or we should have, of course they need to be fined for having a dinner party. Most people will believe that to be outside the rules at the time, no matter how you try to spin it!