Part 3 AIBU to wonder why so many people assume Johnny Depp is the good guy and Amber Heard is the villain

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Following on from parts 1 and 2
Trial has gone 'dark' this week as the Judge is at a conference so it's going to be quiet on that front and I expect this thread will run slower than the previous two, however, there is still plenty of material and evidence from the last three weeks that we can 'cross examine'.

Any and all opinions welcome.

Oh wtf are they doing letting his weird fans in. He's just done a big wave and blown kisses. They all waved at him. That's the sort of shit makes me think he's an idiot.

Yes I know before the newly qualified legal team jump in they have to let people in its public etc.

I'm sure if she had a fan club they wouldn't be denied entry (although one or two of her fans have been found to have a problem sticking to court rules ). There's a surprise!!

ambers Lawyers maybe needing their own lawyers after this case. Amber was quick to blame others. So who is to blame for not getting the photographs and maybe other testimony in.

Have you seen the objections lists? I think a lot of stuff hasn't been allowed, so not really blaming her lawyers just that's he wasn't allowed to include in exhibits.
stormzy not to worry if she was blowing kisses I'd be slating her too. I am very fair.

So to summarise:
The LAPD lied
The nurse lied in AH medical notes
Every other witness under oath has lied
The ACLU wrote the article, it was nothing to do with her
Her only main witness to 'abuse' has since passed away.
And now she is blaming her legal team for withholding crucial evidence.

Everything is always someone else's fault.
She is taking ZERO accountability for anything.

There has to be a reason for the objection, photographs of physical injuries would need to have been unreliable or late in submitting for verification.

I am very fair.
Your fairness was never in doubt ENoeuf 😊

I don't think she is blaming her legal team at all. I think she's referring to it not being allowed. On the objections list there was pages and pages of things both sides objected to on things like 'calls for speculation' etc.
@Boulshired I think we are at crossed purposes yes I agree there will have been a reason I just don't think it's her lawyers at fault

I really wanted to believe her and not fangirl over Johnny Depp! Managed not to fangirl, but I just don't believe Amber.
she simply isnt credible. Her over acting and tearless crying comes across as trying too hard. She has provided no medical evidence as yet. Nothing. All these attacks she's claiming, theres pictures the next day proving no black eyes or broken nose. Make up can only cover so much.

So far I genuinely can't see where she has proven he has physically abused her. Wheres the proof? If she's telling the truth, she'd have doctor reports, police reports.
now she's admitted she lied about paying her divorce settlement to charity. what else has she lied about?

He is absolutely not innocent-he's said some awful things about her and his substance abuse is toxic.
I just keep coming back to the recording where she mocked him that no-one would believe he Johnny Depp was a victim of domestic violence.

Theres a lot more to come out yet. Thats what he's doing though, he's exposing her-his career has stalled because of her op-ed piece so what has he got to lose?

It's difficult isn't it because with so much money most of the witnesses are either on the payroll or want to be. Aside from the police. No random neighbours or passers by.

I do think she missed a trick with the donate/pledge. Explained that she uses the words as the same meaning but understanding that for others there is a different meaning and apologising if that has been misinterpreted it was never her intention. Arguing that they are the same thing, which was never going to end well. That was from her lawyers as they set the seeds in cross for ACLU with donate/pledge

I would genuinely like to know if anyone has watched Amber's cross examination tonight and can say with a straight face, that she is not a manipulative liar

Terrible, evil woman

@Legrandsophie why do you think charity cares who donated it or if it was on her behalf? Money is money to them, even if she doesn't manage to fulfill her pledge(which I honestly am not sure if it's just an intention or something that legally obliges you but I think the lawyer of charity testified that she never signed something that would legally bind her)it's still quite a bit of money they got. She's still part of that charity, it wouldn't make sense she made such a gaffe and was still part of it.

Also I would assume that even tho Depp covered their expenses, she probably had some leftovers from their lavish life that he didn't cover that needed covering after they got separted as well as having to maintain being in Hollywood in order to continue her career which would in turn enable her to fulfill the pledge(security-"elite"one at that I believe someone mentioned-and housing is expensive believe it or not and her income from acting dropped since this whole thing..also thing that I'm not thrilled about to even mention because I consider it on par with human trafficking is her getting"a surrogate", which is expensive too).

In addition I don't know when she found out that Depp is going to sue her but it could have been sooner than when it was actually filed. In that case clearly her lawyers or someone advised her to keep the money for trial. Hopefully this gets clarified.

I think at best she wasn't thinking how it may come off in court that she didn't pay it out in full yet and is saying it like that publicly without clarification but her explanation that similarly to when people say they bought a house but it's actually mortgage she also pledged to pay the amount of her divorce settlement, therefore she intends to pay it off.

Goldigger term is misogynistic in itself or a bit of a myth. I don't see how can anyone enjoy enduring sex and other things with person they clearly do not like and are doing it just for the money-it sounds like"high end prostitution"at best and no matter what you believe, there is no such thing as"happy hooker"either so there's that. If Amber Heard was one then she clearly endured plenty for whatever money she supposedly done it for, I wouldn't swap places that's for sure.

This trial does not look like trying to establish facts to me, more like"how do we twist whatever we have in the story our clients want". And I think JDs team has been doing some contortionist stuff here

And if someone really must pursue the golddigger stuff...like hello Elon? JD is not really hot stuff and his career is on decline with or without AH. Also Elon doesn't occasionally puke and shit himself, I guess lacking that would be considered an aphrodisiac to a supposed"golddigger". Elon pursued AH and would probably get with her now if she wanted

i don’t blame Depps lawyers for ambers testimony, I lay that on Ambers team. It’s clear that Amber over describes thing and it’s this that slips her up. The main narrative in the story maybe true but you get anything wrong in the story telling you’ve lost the truth. That should’ve been ironed out. It’s Why she seemed to spend the first part of the day explaining what she had said before the week break. I’m hoping that she has some credible witnesses coming up as she has promised the jury a mountain of evidence.

I have a teenage son and him and his friends know about this from social media.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this case, I am concerned that this has set back domestic abuse understanding for many people, particularly young men and women included. They learn from social media.

JD is not wearing sunglasses so she cant see him.
They're blue lenses. He is basically blind in one eye. He's had eye problems since he was a child.

Have you been watching the whole case? You seem not to know a lot of the details.

1. She was the one who went public with the ‘pledge’.
2. She said several times that the whole should be delivered immediately to the charities.
3. She went on Dutch TV and said that she had already given it to the charities.
4. She still owes both the ACLU and the children’s hospital $3.1 million each. Any charity is going to want that money.
5. She admitted yesterday that the payments to her were completed in January 2018 and that Depp didn’t sue her until Feb 2019. That is 13 clear months where she and Depp had nothing to do with each other and she could have donated the money.
6. She insists that she was financially independent of him. So why did she need to keep the money. She should have millions herself.

She is a liar. That is now proven. What needs to be established now is the extent of her lies.

onlyhippy oh that's a relief, it was the whole 'you'll never see his eyes again!' And then as they leave he takes them off so I was making a connection.

@Legrandsophie

agree

I don't want to think someone would make this up. It feels exaggerated though with the lack of photos when everything was documented. Not the medical care - I never went to a GP for bruises , why would you? Unless somethings broken you just crack on. That medical report became meaningless the moment I saw the reference to being a man - I suspect cut and paste / standard form and only changed for the bits they discussed.
I don't know how amazing make up artists can be (I imagine SFX is a different skill set). My son used to act and they magicked away a bruise with strategic hair and cap placement but films are different to TV sets.

The table photo was mentioned in the uk trail, it was said that Whitney taught Depp the tampon applicator technique. They also showed a text message from Whitney in 2013 (don’t know who to).

I was impressed with how calm and composed she was. I’m confused about her therapist notes as there seemed to be lots there that she said wasn’t true.

I’m actually concerned for Whitney testifying, just as those who are Depps employees are viewed by some as unreliable, Whitney is going to have the same tenfold by the court of public opinion.

Well that was a fantastic cross examination. The team has shown her to the jury to be dishonest, by describing that JD always wears rings, so much damage was done to her yet the day after there's no marks. For lying about the $7mm payment and under oath in the U.K. as well, so a little bit of perjury there. For pointing out he hasn't looked at her once, she keeps looking at him. She has been proven to lie on the stand.