To think Prince William preaching about climate change is another example the monarchy should not exist

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Is he having a laugh? His wife and him parade around in designer clothes costing thousands of pounds, live on multiple properties, fly around the world often in jets and he is telling US to do our bit?

I had a chat with DH earlier and we thought it would be a good idea for the queen to hand straight to William but now I'm not sure either and just wish the lot of them would go away and cease to exist as a royal family.

They're taking the piss - when will we no longer stand for a monarchy?

Even as someone who has never voted Tory, fundamentally disagrees with them on almost everything, and has a particular loathing of Boris Johnson, I would absolutely prefer a democratically elected President Johnson than an unelected head of state, who’s there by birthright alone.

As undesirable as certain of our elected leaders might be to me, the Royal Family is inherently disgusting.

I concur 😅

@MountainDewer one hundred percent.

Climate change cannot be changed by individuals, I believe technology and government is the only solution.

So he is wasting his breath anyway.

I think the RF has lost its prestige, if that's the right word.

There seems very little to look up these days, and HM seems to be making some very grave errors of judgement of late especially where Andrew and Harry are concerned.

Charles is going to have to make some very radical changes to try and keep their gravy train on the rails when he takes over...........

She did? From what I’ve seen (from a quick Google search - I’m not going to pretend to be privy to their conversations) is that she told him she’s worried about him being in helicopters because she thinks they are unsafe. Nothing to do with the climate. Everything to do with wanting her family to get where they are going safely.

Yanbu. The tonedeaf Caribbean holiday shows just how clueless and out of touch they are. They need to go.

To be fair @SkerryVore the Royal Family were ahead of the curve on this. Prince Philip was campaigning with the World Wildlife Fund and to save habitats and Prince Charles raising concerns about climate change and lack of biodiversity - insects affected by farming practices etc decades before other people, turning the extensive areas of land they control over to organic farming and supporting important skills like hedge-laying that might otherwise be lost. Not fashionable but important. When they are patrons of these organisations they spend a lot of time doing their homework too. They read-up and are knowledgeable. Yes, they fly but very few people don't fly these days, and Prince William's family often fly economy (unlike his brother who seems to borrow a lot of private jets). I'd far rather be lectured by the royal family than celebrities.

yanbu... Charles has always had environmental interests also. I can see how it starts off feeling "safe" - Charles can farm organically, everyone likes animals, climate change is a physical process surely this means no complicated social problem stuff just engineering fixes...?

But then you dig deeper into climate change and realise that really we are still locked into colonial ways of thinking. Rich countries and multinational companies are still plundering the planet for fossil fuels and other resources, with poorer countries being plundered, polluted or their people exploited. Many global south countries have never dug themselves out of debt payments while the reparations for slavery were paid to the white landowning families! - aristocrats like the royal family. We will never solve climate change while these huge inequalities and injustices exist. So the logical endpoint of William's concern about climate change would be to dismantle the wealth of the royal family and see what they could do to make reparations for centuries of extractivism.

The whole idea of an inherited head of state is wrong. That's why they should go. Regardless of what they say. As for the hackneyed arguement you could end up with Tony Blair. Well yes you could. You could also get rid of him. I remember when Blair was elected. He was like the second coming. Those who say you could end up with him now are either very young or have very selective memories. Especially Labour voters of a certain age.

But to answer the OP. They aren't very bright people. They do what their advisors tell them. They might think they care about such things but as chillied explained so well they don't. The only thing they really care for is self preservation. They change chameleon like to stay where the are. Saying the 'right' things.

He and Kate lost all credibility preaching about climate matters when they decided to have their third child. I think the monarchy should be more like the Denmark model so if we have to keep it, it would be completely pared back.

I drive a car. Should I not try to add my voice to the problem of global warming?

He's just been to the Caribbean and then flew to go skiing at Easter - he's obviously not concerned enough to change what his own family like to do!

He can piss off with his double standards.

A pared back model may be better but why should we keep it at all,? If you were designing a country from scratch would you choose a family to rule over everyone else. Forever. Doesn't matter what they are like. They rule. They have enormous privileges. You can never ever vote them out. They can condescend to tell you how you should live whilst doing the opposite. They live in palaces when people are reliant on foodbanks. We are told they cost 50,p per week when that 50p could fund health treatments for so many people.

Ah but they are good for tourism. Really. In a county so rich in history, culture, museums, natural beauty we have to rely on them.

He can't exactly just go on the tube, or a bus, can he?

I think they should change their unofficial motto from "Never Complain, Never Explain" to "Stop bloody preaching and stop bloody leeching".

Outdated and hypocritical. When you take a step back and really think about the concept of a Royal Family given so much privilege due to happening to be born into a lineage, it's absolutely ridiculous.

You must be joking, there have been endless threads criticising Harry and Meghan!

The Royal family cannot abolish themselves only we as the electorate can do that. Even if all the immediate family renounced the crown there would be others in line. So it’s up to us to make republicans a top political priority.

@amitoooldforthisshit OMG this same tired old argument trotted out EVERY fucking time the abolition of the monarchy is discussed 🙄.

How the fuck would a man has unpopular as Blair get elected as president FFS?! 🙄

Look at Ireland’s model. It works. And it’s democratic. And if the president is crap they get voted out. It’s not exactly rocket science 😬.

If you add to the problem of climate change, do you have a right to campaign to try to reverse the damage? Everyone who uses MN is compounding damage to the environment because they're using electricity. Is there a scale where there is a tipping point when you can no longer campaign. Who decided that point? You?