6yr twins missing london

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www.itv.com/news/london/2022-05-07/family-desperately-worried-for-twins-missing-after-playing-in-garden

Hopefully found safe and well soon

Exactly this, I'm fed up with people denying it.

I agree that things are shifting but not fast enough.

Beyoncé is hardly representative of black people, she’s a megastar.

It’s so frustrating and such a colossal injustice to us all that we are consistently presented with such a skewed take on news.

Good to hear twins found

They’ve been found safe and well apparently. So good.

Because they're not white middle class kids.

White privilege doesn't mean you aren't disadvantaged. It just means that the reason you are disadvantaged isn't because of your skin colour.

The thing about this is that, while yes technically it may be true, can you not see how a person from the most deprived backgrounds with little to aspire to, and very few opportunities in life, might feel a bit bitter at being called 'privileged' by the middle classes of any race...who actually do experience real socio economic privilege (and let's face it, it's usually the middle class pontificating over things like this).

It's not a helpful catch all term and I can see how it would breed resentment when you're living in pretty hopeless surroundings. It's a bit of a kick in the teeth. What's the point in the term if it's creating more division?

Thank you for the update

Such a relief they are safe

The point of the term is simply to explain the extra layer of disadvantage faced by people who are not white. I reallydon't understand why this is so difficult for people to grasp.

Yes, many white people from deprived backgrounds are incredibly disadvantaged. Life is hard for them, opportunities are limited and of course they don't feel privileged. However, a black person from the same deprived background will face even more obstacles than a white person. That is just fact.

Acknowledging that fact is not to minimise the struggles of white people from deprived backgrounds at all. The inequality of opportunity in our society is shocking, and it needs to be addressed. It is simply about recognising that white people do not face the additional disadvantages associated with race that many non-white people have to contend with.

I really don't like the white privilege label. Why is there an assumption I'm privileged because of the colour of my skin. I do not have a standard education. Its very much below. I have been homeless twice. There is mental health issues /learning difficulties in the family. Will probably only ever Be in low paid jobs or not working.

I don't understand how my children would be white privileged? The black and white children go to the same school sit in the same class have the same teachers. Sit on the same bus. Live in the same sort of area.

When I was the only white person in my work place. Everytime I walked into the room it would go silent. Where I had sorted out things needed to do my job . They would go missing . So then I would get into trouble for messing up. Yet I could see my stuff with this other person. Who had taken it. Only i can't grass can I. A few times I was backed into a corner and they would not let me pass. Laughing ect . Always having digs at me laughing together /at me. Yet that would not be classed as racist because I'm white.

With the missing children/adults weather they are black or white how do we actually (know) that black people are not reported missing In the same way as white people ? Because we won't ever know about the people who never even make it to the media. Often when people go missing and we don't hear about it right away is because things are going on behide the scenes.

Because they've been found so it's not a story!

😂 Bit late to the party my friend

I don't understand how my children would be white privileged? The black and white children go to the same school sit in the same class have the same teachers. Sit on the same bus. Live in the same sort of area.

Imagine if you had taken two minutes to educate yourself before posting this drivel. Even checking upthread would enlighten you greatly.

So many people don’t really understand what white privilege means.

It doesn’t meant that white people get given privileges. It just means that, of all the things you might have to worry about as a white person in disadvantaged circumstances, being black isn’t one of them.

It means that you and a black person could have grown up in exactly the same poverty, on the same estate, went to the same crap school, etc, but if you both send your CV off for the same job application, the person with the white Anglo Saxon sounding name will get their CV read first.

It's not difficult to educate yourself on white privilege. Black males for example are treated with more suspicion and prejudice by police than you would be.

I AM one of those people. I am from a deprived background, my dad is in prison, I have no education, I am a single mum on minimum wage getting top up benefits. I still understand what white privilege is and why I have it. If someone met me for the first time they would have no idea what my background is, but skin colour is something you can't hide.

Imagine. That instead if a nasty comment like that you could actually explain to me. I even said in my post that there are learning difficulties. So it might be that I don't fully understand/get it. Another poster has managed to reply to my post and give an example. Without nastiness is education not about asking questions. Maybe talking about lack of understanding so others can then explain it there for helping you to explain. Its comments like yours that make it hard for people to ask questions. Thete for they don't. There for do not learn

Oh please. Just Google white privilege instead of being so twattish and self absorbed.

"The point of the term is simply to explain the extra layer of disadvantage faced by people who are not white. I reallydon't understand why this is so difficult for people to grasp."

Oh wow @Mumwantingtogetitright you really thought you needed to explain that huh? 😂

It really isn't difficult to grasp, as my post (you know, the one you were replying to) acknowledged. It's true, however I was explaining why it might not always be a helpful/appropriate term to use.
You thought you'd jump on an opportunity to condescend, but I think next time you might like to take the time to comprehend the post you're replying to first. 🤦🏽‍♀️

I suspect this was related to a custody case or break up and there was some kind of embargo on the story as the police knew who they were with which certain, more sensationalist, outlets ignored as it was too good a headline to resist.

Its also maybe worth pointing out (maybe I'm mistaken) that none of the reports confirmed that these two children were playing ALONE or unattended in their garden, just that they were together. They could have been playing with an old child/older children, they may have been supposedly supervised by another parent, who then took their own child inside and left them unattended without the twins going back in.
Dont always assume children playing outdoors is neglectful.

I can understand why the term white privilege is offensive to some people. Many white British citizens live in poverty and abject states of deprivation. Over the last 10 years many have slid into poverty, our society is less equal than it has ever been. To bandy around words like white privilege is bound to be hurtful and add insult to injury, although the phenomenon obviously exists.

The expression is just another way to polarise society. There are many people of colour /BAME who have advantages beyond some white Brtish people's dreams. These are often privileged immigrants who come from well to do backgrounds in their native countries, many of whom are very well educated and have opportunities to work in well paid professions.

When all else is equal, a person of colour / with BAME heritage is disadvantaged compared to a white person in this country / the US / Europe.

However, looking at the overall picture, using the term white privilege can be offensive and polarising.

I dislike polarising language and find it simplistic and populist.

It really grates when a few posts into the thread a poster just drops the "it's white privilege" comment.

It's reductive and offensive. I'd understand it more if they had said it's structural / systemic / institutional racism. Anyway, as it stands, the reason this wasn't on national news may be due to the particular family situation in this case.

Hi all,

We are closing this thread now as it it not going well. Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread. Thankfully the twins have been found!

We can't just not use terms because it might offend some people though. Male privilege is a real thing, should we stop saying that because it might offend the men?

Sorry, I did read and comprehend your post, but I assumed that you were coming from a place of ignorance rather than willful denial of racism. My bad.