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Would you hire a male babysitter?

333 replies

georgarina · 29/04/2022 11:51

Why/why not?

OP posts:
Crimesean · 29/04/2022 14:00

Men are approximately twenty-five times more likely to be sex offenders. That isn't a "slightly increased risk", it's 25 times the risk.

I personally wouldn't hire a male nanny or babysitter, no.

Beautiful3 · 29/04/2022 14:01

No I wouldn't. My choice.

Eelicks · 29/04/2022 14:03

Absolutely not. It's a much more increased risk for no gain. I wouldn't even be 100% leaving my girls with a male family member on his own (other than DH of course).

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 14:04

Crimesean · 29/04/2022 14:00

Men are approximately twenty-five times more likely to be sex offenders. That isn't a "slightly increased risk", it's 25 times the risk.

I personally wouldn't hire a male nanny or babysitter, no.

But there are loads of statistics we don't allow discrimination based upon. Like religion and terrorism convictions and race and knife crime. Should we be able to discriminate against other protected characteristics because of statistics?

AgathaAllAlong · 29/04/2022 14:05

As others have said, yes my nephew or brother, no to anyone else.

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 14:05

For the avoidance of doubt above I don't think we should.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/04/2022 14:05

CapMarvel · 29/04/2022 13:34

The point being that you aren't judging the risk realistically. Otherwise why are you taking your kid in the car, given that's FAR more dangerous than lots of other things you probably avoid doing.

There is a benefit to using a car- I don’t see a benefit to using a male over a female except maybe to appease you.

Bettel · 29/04/2022 14:05

I would not, someone I knew well, and would have trusted to look after my child if the need had ever arose, turned out to be a child molester. You can't tell the genuine people from the paedophiles, so I just don't take the risk

YouAreNotBatman · 29/04/2022 14:07

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 14:04

But there are loads of statistics we don't allow discrimination based upon. Like religion and terrorism convictions and race and knife crime. Should we be able to discriminate against other protected characteristics because of statistics?

Why are you fighting this?
Better kids to be safe than pandering to men’s feelings!
Get your priorities checked!

WhenTheNightFalls · 29/04/2022 14:08

No. My girls would not be comfortable and I wouldn't either.
My friend wanted a male nanny for her school aged girls but both the girls said they would prefer a woman and I could see why. They had a lot of activities such as swimming and obviously with things like changing, that's going to be an issue with something like this.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/04/2022 14:08

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 13:53

Indeed this site should be renamed misandrynet and treated with the appropriate contempt. The good thing is outside of here women are actually quite reasonable and Mumsnet isn't actually representative of the wider female population.

Omg you’re just both so cool letting anyone take care of your kids- and yes children are precious!!!!!

CharSiu · 29/04/2022 14:09

When you look at statistics for crimes committed there are very few women in prison for violence or sexual abuse. They do however get huge amounts of publicity if caught and prosecuted which is why people may not automatically make the link. As quoted above 98% of sex offenders that are caught are men.

I would not use a male babysitter, I know DH did babysit as a teen.

SherbetDips · 29/04/2022 14:11

Yes, the corner shop son used to babysit me and he was fun. Also my mum leaves the dog with the cleaners son over night etc if she goes away and he’s fantastic so trust worthy I wouldn’t hesitate to leave him with my kids.

Lockheart · 29/04/2022 14:12

I would only refuse a babysitter (male or female) if I didn't know them.

I think this thread is an example of one of the many reasons why childcare still primarily falls on women though. Hard to push for equality of childcare if the prevailing opinion in society is that men are too incompetent and / or dangerous to look after children. It feeds into the narrative that childcare by default falls to women, it's a woman's job, and that men are being so good to help out when they do the most basic of tasks once in a blue moon.

Eelicks · 29/04/2022 14:12

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 14:04

But there are loads of statistics we don't allow discrimination based upon. Like religion and terrorism convictions and race and knife crime. Should we be able to discriminate against other protected characteristics because of statistics?

This isn't like, for example, only employing white bus drivers and saying no to any black applicants. That would be completely wrong and arbitrary discrimination. In this case, the discrimination is proportionate and justified - the significantly increased risk of a male person causing harm to children than a female person, and the consequences being extremely severe (ie harm to children). Nobody is saying all men are a risk, but we don't know which ones are. So a blanket exclusion is justified. I personally wouldn't hire a babysitter I didn't know anyway.

irisheyesaresmiling7 · 29/04/2022 14:13

MissSmiley · 29/04/2022 12:15

This is so depressing, if it's someone you know and you trust what difference does it make if they are male or female? My eldest son who's now 19 did some babysitting for friends of mine a few times, he's very sensible and their son loved having him over to keep an eye on them.

I agree with @MissSmiley.. this is so depressing!

My teenage boys have babysat in the past, they were recommended to the family by mutual friends as my boys have younger siblings and are well used to younger kids and get on great with them.

Holly60 · 29/04/2022 14:13

Instinctively I'd say no. But then when I think about it I realise that I would never have anyone I didn't know and trust, regardless of sex, and that actually I would allow men I trust - brother, FIL, Dad - to babysit in the same way I trust the women in my life.

So for me it's not a sex thing it's a trust thing.

BadNomad · 29/04/2022 14:13

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 14:04

But there are loads of statistics we don't allow discrimination based upon. Like religion and terrorism convictions and race and knife crime. Should we be able to discriminate against other protected characteristics because of statistics?

FWIW I wouldn't let a terrorist babysit my children either. I don't care if that makes me a bigot. 😂

This isn't about employment. This is about who you let into your house.

LivingFastForward · 29/04/2022 14:13

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/04/2022 14:05

There is a benefit to using a car- I don’t see a benefit to using a male over a female except maybe to appease you.

Exactly. Protecting men’s feelings will never be as important as the safety of children. And as I said before, good men would also want risks to children minimised and wouldn’t take offence. They’d understand it’s not a personal attack.

RealBecca · 29/04/2022 14:14

I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know and trust to look after my child.

Sex isnt important, trust is.

What about males in other settings with access to children 1:1? Male teachers, doctors, nursery staff?

Is the 1-1 aspect that worries people?

DeanStockwelllsBunny · 29/04/2022 14:15

Whatapalava67 · 29/04/2022 12:59

Interestingly some posters are reassured by having a male relative or friend... yet, in the majority of cases, the perpetrator is someone who is already known to the child, not a stranger.

You beat me to it @Whatapalava67 ,
While I understand many parents not wanting a babysitter they dont know , be it male or female just because you know the male ( or female) doesn't mean they will not abuse the child in their care .

brookstar · 29/04/2022 14:17

Lockheart · 29/04/2022 14:12

I would only refuse a babysitter (male or female) if I didn't know them.

I think this thread is an example of one of the many reasons why childcare still primarily falls on women though. Hard to push for equality of childcare if the prevailing opinion in society is that men are too incompetent and / or dangerous to look after children. It feeds into the narrative that childcare by default falls to women, it's a woman's job, and that men are being so good to help out when they do the most basic of tasks once in a blue moon.

I feel exactly the same.

Unmute · 29/04/2022 14:17

Someone I know and trust, no problem. A stranger through an agency or recommended by a friend, nope. Not so much because of the increased risk to my child, but because as a single parent I wouldn't feel comfortable with a strange man in my house, especially if I'm going to be getting home late at night.

MarshmallowSwede · 29/04/2022 14:19

If some people want to pretend that men aren’t the majority of sec offenders then go ahead.

I am not pretending so that men and dick panderers feel better about us being ok with men looking after our children.

I don’t leave my baby with anyone. But if I did need to it would be a woman. The only man I would even consider leaving my baby with is my father. Any other man no matter how nice and friendly I am not willing to do this.

Also, no I wouldn’t allow my child to do a sleepover in anyones home period. Let alone a single dad or man babysitting.

Also, I’m wondering why some of you are so adamant that we must let men babysit. Why exactly do you get out of people allowing access to their children to men?

It is normal for men to look after their own chidlren, but I’m suspicious of any man (or any woman pushing for a man ) to have access to children. In the spirit of “inclusiveness “ only makes it even more pathetic and dick pandering.

I don’t care if men feel discriminated against. If there is any area where they should be it’s around getting access to children considering 98% of sexual crimes are committed by men (people with a penis for the handmaidens) and people born male for the extremely brainwashed handmaidens.

DownToTheSeaAgain · 29/04/2022 14:21

My sons babysit all the time