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Would you hire a male babysitter?

333 replies

georgarina · 29/04/2022 11:51

Why/why not?

OP posts:
redglobox · 29/04/2022 13:28

No. I prefer to minimise the risk of my children coming to any harm (and obviously men are more of a risk to children (and women and other men) than women).

LauraNicolaides · 29/04/2022 13:28

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 29/04/2022 13:17

If someone thinks I’m deranged for minimising risks to my children, I have no fucks to give. Not one exactly this! It’s like when people get mad on here because I wouldn’t date a bisexual man, or don’t find x character trait about a man attractive- you don’t have to give everyone an equal opportunity to have access to your child to prove to everyone you’re not discriminating.

Precisely this. The Equality Act does not apply in these situations. I'm happy to see all sorts of equal opportunities in the workplace. But frankly I don't want men looking after my kids, I don't want to date people from other cultures, I would rather see female doctors - my choices, don't have to justify them to anyone.

Stokey · 29/04/2022 13:29

I've used lots of male babysitters. Generally teenage brothers of DDs friends, I just think if them as just as reliable as their teenage sisters. Also used my childminder's grandson who was one of the my kids' favourite babysitters and was DBS cleared.

Amazed by this thread.

neverbeenskiing · 29/04/2022 13:29

True, but the risk is still vanishingly small

Latest figures from the CSA suggest that 15% of girls and 5% of boys experience sexual abuse before the age of 16. I wouldn't call those numbers "vanishingly" small, especially as the hidden nature of CSA means so many cases go unreported so prevalence is likely to be higher in reality.

I'm not necessarily anti male babysitters but I do think people underestimate the scale of CSA generally.

1940s · 29/04/2022 13:30

VestaTilley · 29/04/2022 12:08

No, I would not.

My child, my choice. Too many predatory men try any means to gain access to children. Parents must be vigilant, and they mustn’t take any unnecessary risks.

This

Celendine · 29/04/2022 13:32

No I wouldn't and I would not allow a son to babysit either . Too many safe guarding issues.

Iorderedyouapancake · 29/04/2022 13:33

CapMarvel · 29/04/2022 13:19

True, but the risk is still vanishingly small. Your kids are at far more risk of harm every time you put them in the car.

Is it? I thought it was something like 1 in 5 children that are victims of sexual abuse - the proportion of children seriously hurt in car accidents must be much much lower surely?

Whatsnewpussyhat · 29/04/2022 13:34

There is a very small risk. Slightly higher with men than women but very small overall

Slightly higher risk with men? Slightly?
98% of sex offences are committed by men.

CapMarvel · 29/04/2022 13:34

PumpkinsandKittens · 29/04/2022 13:21

I never get this argument, so we shouldn’t minimise risks because there are other risks ? 🙄... still never gonna leave a man I don’t know and trust to babysit my children.

The point being that you aren't judging the risk realistically. Otherwise why are you taking your kid in the car, given that's FAR more dangerous than lots of other things you probably avoid doing.

FourTeaFallOut · 29/04/2022 13:35

No. By just about every statistic that poses a risk of harm to my children that we know boys and men are a riskier proposition than girld and women and I'm not obliged to take into account any hurt feelings when seeking out a babysitter.

hangrylady · 29/04/2022 13:36

No. Trusted male friends or family members yes but not a random man. I wouldn't hire a random woman either but luckily I have lots of mum friends in my area and we help each other out.

crochetmonkey74 · 29/04/2022 13:39

Another safeguarding professional here and absolutely not - its the same for me as leaving a child alone in a room with a dog

LivingFastForward · 29/04/2022 13:42

brokengoalposts · 29/04/2022 13:26

Yes, I would. I wouldn't use anyone I didn't know or trust, so sex isn't the thing which would stop me using them. The answers in here giving a blanket no, are depressing. Don't you people know any trustworthy men?

I know some lovely men, my partner is one of them. But he would absolutely not hire a male babysitter. He’s aware that most of these crimes are committed by men, so why wouldn’t he just hire a woman?

The fact that he is a good man, means that he doesn’t take offence that many parents would prefer their children looked after by women. He understands that it’s not a personal attack on him, just a sensible precaution based on statistics.

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 13:43

You can't discriminate on the basis of sex any less so than religion they are both protected characteristics. Would the response be different if I wouldn't let my child be looked after by a Muslim? Can I insist on that and refuse to employ on those grounds?

Tohaveandtohold · 29/04/2022 13:45

When you’re talking about ‘hiring’, it’s like a professional relationship, not the child of a family member, etc. in that case, no I won’t, I won’t hire a female one that I don’t know either. Infact I don’t use baby sitters, explains why I’ve not been on a night out since my children were born. I always prefer a structured childcare setting with more than one person supervising the children especially when they can’t speak up for themselves

WandaVon · 29/04/2022 13:47

Never. I taught a boy who, at the age of sixteen, sexually abused his 5 year old cousin, who he was babysitting, in the most unimaginably horrific way.

LivingFastForward · 29/04/2022 13:50

CapMarvel · 29/04/2022 13:34

The point being that you aren't judging the risk realistically. Otherwise why are you taking your kid in the car, given that's FAR more dangerous than lots of other things you probably avoid doing.

People have to get to places so they use a car sometimes. They minimise the risk by using a roadworthy car, seatbelts, car seats, driving safely, etc.

To live life fully, we encounter risks but it seems sensible to reduce those risks.

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 13:53

Yorksirenotsorose · 29/04/2022 13:26

😂Thanks for all the replies and quotes. Good to see the MN echo chamber is still working at 100% capacity. God forbid your precious kids ever meet a male and have to be trusted with them.

Indeed this site should be renamed misandrynet and treated with the appropriate contempt. The good thing is outside of here women are actually quite reasonable and Mumsnet isn't actually representative of the wider female population.

YouAreNotBatman · 29/04/2022 13:54

Katesboy8 · 29/04/2022 12:23

Sex is irrelevant. Anyone can sexually assault a child male or female. I would only use someone I knew and trusted.. male or female.

Yeah, sure, ’anyone’ can.

But surely you must know the statistics?
You can’t be that naive!

FourTeaFallOut · 29/04/2022 13:54

Facts are mean people, let's go with rainbows and unicorns instead.

YouAreNotBatman · 29/04/2022 13:55

Hallyup89 · 29/04/2022 12:33

Is it though? Huge??

How many teenage boys do you seriously think are going to do anything to a young child?

Yes, it is.

And I wouldn’t trust teenage boy ever, about anything.
I know how horrible they can be.

Not that I’d trust grown man any more…..

TulipCat · 29/04/2022 13:57

I only ever use babysitters known to me personally, male or female. I don't understand how anyone is happy letting some random person from an agency into their home, male or female and leaving them with their children.

SpaceyCake · 29/04/2022 13:57

No unless they were a family member who I trusted. Although I did trust a close family member once (not with DC, thank F!) and it turned out he was a pervert so now I'm even less likely to trust anyone.

I never leave my child with anyone apart from my parents or husband's parents anyway, so I guess I'm not technically discriminating because I would not let a non-family female to look after DC either. But if I had to choose I would choose a female over male. I don't mean to offend but I feel that DC would be safer that way.

IDidntKnowItWasAParty · 29/04/2022 13:59

No way. Reason: risk assessment.

MarshmallowSwede · 29/04/2022 14:00

No I would not because I am not comfortable with men other than my husband or my own father looking after my child.

Would not risk it and don’t want to have to second guess if the man is not a pedophile. Therefore all men other than my husband or father are off the list for childcare. These are the only men I know for sure aren’t pedos and I’m not willing to risk the safety of my child in order to give some man the benefit of the doubt.