Would you hire a male babysitter?

[georgarina]

Why/why not?

What is the point of this? There was a thread on here a couple of weeks ago about making smacking illegal in England as it is in’s Scotland and wales and some people were arguing it should be legalised. There have been plenty of othrrs

the fact you personally didn’t see it is as far as I am concerned totally and utterly irrelevant. And posting like if you didn’t see it then it couldn’t have happened is as odd as fuck quite frankly.

Sorry I meant to quote this.,,

Let's face facts if you take the UK's estimated population of men and take the number of men accused each year of sexual crimes it's comes to 1.7% EST. So that's alot of you are dismissing through your constant accusations

Nobody is saying it's not all men. But pretty much all women have experienced sexual harassment or worse from at least one man. That tiny 1.7% must be very busy.

No. For obvious reasons.

What a stupid comparison. For a start, you can't compare your child's welfare with a ding on a car! And maybe if 98% of all crashes had a woman behind the wheel there might be an argument for not employing them as valets, no?

I ment to quote this in my above reply

They could both harm your child.

@LauraNicolaides the chance of a man harming your child when in your home alone with them is much greater than the chance of a terrorist harming your child

This makes me really sad. Ds is a babysitter and has been looking after the same family for a couple of years.

It’s sad to think that people would assume that he is a peodophile because he’s male.

The common denominator for being more likely to be a terrorist, like any other type of violent crime is still men

There are many female predatory women out there too ffs

People don't 'assume he's a paedophile' they will simply risk assess and know that a child is more likely to be abused by a man than a woman statistically, then base their decision on that.

You said he babysits already so some people clearly are fine with it. Others wouldn't be, but it isn't a personal attack against your son.

Please don't raise a young man to think that he's hard done by because people have to mitigate the risk of sex offenders and studies show that 90%+ of sex offences are committed by men.

Let him be angry with the men who are behind those statistics, not the parents who are trying to stop their children being potentially exposed to abuse.

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People are not assuming your son is a paedophile. They are using the statistics available to them, showing males are more likely to commit these crimes, and rightfully being cautious.

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@MissNothing1991

There are many female predatory women out there too ffs

Studies show that male perpetrators account for at least 90% of sex offences. It's silly to pretend that there are anywhere near as many female predators.

Oh look at missy giving out the swear words your loosing the argument.

Your argument is as weak as crap. I would encourage all males to read this thread an conclude women's ability to reason and comply with the law regarding protected characteristics makes them unsuitable for people facing roles. That is an equally sweeping generalisation as what you are doing.

And when statistics show Muslims are more likely to be terrorist in the UK (by a not dissimilar margin) do we change our behaviour to them then? (These are figures from government websites not made up bs)

Actually for terrorism it isn't look at the statistics it's actually a near 50:50 split

Babysitting is a form of employment (unless you are getting it free) so is working in the security services. I was saying you cannot allow discrimination against a protected characteristic (sex) in one and not the other (religion or ethnicity).

Individuals can change their behaviour for any reason at all. So if I wanted to, I owe them no explanation. I do not have to allign with the equalities act whilst living my life.

No one should be discriminated against at work. We have laws that protect them there. But in terms of me feeling safe and protecting my kids, in my personal life, I’ll do what I like.

It sounds like your questioning that figure, the figures are freely available for you to do your own maths. perhaps you can come back with a more accurate figure?

@Fishwishy but there are instances where you are allowed to discount someone based on sex, legally.

That's correct. But IMO this entire thread is really missing the real issue, which is not so much the hiring of babysitters but our own family and friendship networks.

I wonder how many women here, who would never hire a male babysitter, would happily leave their kids with granddad, uncle, husband, step father etc. Relatively few I'd imagine.

Yet data already available shows how we're failing our children as the data is already telling us that it's people we know who have, and are continuing to abuse children. People outside of our networks make up a small number. Yet after 12 pages of to/fro about babysitters and risk, almost zilch about uncle John.

When it comes to your body, your home and your family, you can pick and choose whoever you want based on whatever you want. If you feel more comfortable with a female driving instructor, then you have every right to seek one. If you only want to date women, then you only have to date women. If you want only females to carry out intimate examinations on your body, then you can request that. If you are only comfortable leaving your children alone in your home with a woman, then that's your right.

It has FA to do with employment rights, discrimination, what men want or how men feel.

It has been talked about. It has also been noted that strangers don’t have access to our children as much as family/friends do, probably accounting for the stats showing that the abuser is often known to the victim.