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Would you hire a male babysitter?

333 replies

georgarina · 29/04/2022 11:51

Why/why not?

OP posts:
MissChanandlerBong80 · 29/04/2022 20:39

Lockheart · 29/04/2022 19:08

It is an insidious subconscious message.

I don't think we can say "men should take an equal role in rearing children" whilst at the same time saying "it's too dangerous for men to look after my children". You can't have both. Either men can be trusted to play an active role in childrearing or they can't.

I think you can have both.

I fully expect my husband to share equally in childcare and housework. I’m not comfortable with Dave from down the road looking after my children.

I see no tension whatsoever with that.

Nchange33 · 29/04/2022 20:51

Not sure if you read my post above, I was abused by a male babysitter known to my family. Boy from the village, his sister also baby sat, parents knew my parents. Whether you know them is neither here nor there when it comes to this type of sexual abuse.

Nchange33 · 29/04/2022 20:52

Nchange33 · 29/04/2022 20:51

Not sure if you read my post above, I was abused by a male babysitter known to my family. Boy from the village, his sister also baby sat, parents knew my parents. Whether you know them is neither here nor there when it comes to this type of sexual abuse.

Sorry this was in response to @Lunar27

Lunar27 · 29/04/2022 20:54

@MissChanandlerBong80

But that's not the issue is it? The issue is parents raising their children to fear men they either know or don't know, purely on the basis that they're potential abusers. Therefore, they shouldn't be allowed to look after children 1-2-1.

Deciding not to hire a male babysitter is one thing and not that onerous. But telling your kids why is another.

A side issue of course is representation. If we all accept that representation has a big impact on our perceptions (for work, TV, media etc) then it stands to reason that if your children are only ever looked after by women or just dad, then it's an odd scenario. I honestly don't know what the answer is as women are free to choose who looks after their kid but we cannot deny that representation is also a factor.

Rosebel · 29/04/2022 20:59

I wouldn't hire anyone I didn't know to babysit my kids. However I did use a male baby sitter for my children. He was one of my DDs key worker at nursery (and by coincidence also the husband of one SILs friends) and never had any issues.

AnnaSW1 · 29/04/2022 21:01

I wouldn't hire a male or female babysitter. It's not something I'm comfortable with at all

ShitHair · 29/04/2022 21:08

Nope. Not a chance.
I signed up to a childcare website and the first few responses were from men. It just gave me an uneasy feeling.

ShitHair · 29/04/2022 21:09

(My kids were 2 and 3 at the time. )

Fishwishy · 29/04/2022 21:18

Iorderedyouapancake · 29/04/2022 17:46

Not sure why when male drivers are more likely to be involved in serious accidents

But women drivers are more likely to have parking accidents. Women are more likely to scrape the car whilst parking men total it driving around. Unfortunately in a valet situation with parking the woman is the much bigger risk and wouldn't be anywhere near my car.

Grasscow · 29/04/2022 21:46

The risk analysis is hard. The consequences are HIGH but the actual risk is low.

It would be interesting to know what the actual risk was. Men do commit more sex crimes. But what is the risk of an individual male?

On the one hand the risk might be increased with strangers because men wanting to do something bad are possibly more likely to be attracted in to a role like that.
On the other hand it’s more likely to be someone you know.

I can totally understand people wanting to minimise the risk. Statistically it would be interesting to know, but hard to calculate I think.

Bayleaf25 · 29/04/2022 21:58

My son (now 19) has babysat for 4 different friends families. They all knew him. The children (all over 4) loved his relaxed, easy going, happy to read endless stories and probably let them stay up too late.

I suppose (as a parent) I can understand some of the concerns, but to say never is very 😢. Common sense and judgment should surely be the deciding factor. A girl could surely also be irresponsible, leave them alone, invite boys around etc, and therefore sex shouldn’t be the deciding factor.

Hiphophippityskip1 · 29/04/2022 22:50

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DarleneSnell · 29/04/2022 23:19

@itsgettingweird ideally no, they would be a last resort. I've never had a stranger babysit. But if push came to shove and my only option was a stranger then I'd consider a local woman with relevant experience. I wouldn't entertain a bloke.

melcalfe · 29/04/2022 23:45

PumpkinsandKittens · 29/04/2022 12:01

Nope, not worth the risk imo but then I wouldn’t hire any baby sitter I didn’t know personally that wasn’t a family member or close friend (male or female) so 🤷‍♀️

90% of child abusers are known to children. Family, close friends.

It is very rare when it's someone random.

PumpkinsandKittens · 29/04/2022 23:57

melcalfe · 29/04/2022 23:45

90% of child abusers are known to children. Family, close friends.

It is very rare when it's someone random.

Already explained I wouldn’t leave my children with a random person because I don’t want a stranger in my house or around my children not just for abuse reasons but because I’m uncomfortable with people I don’t know looking after my kids and I don’t want unknown people in my house my children also wouldn’t like it. I don’t need to use a babysitter so why would I hire one for the sake of it? I don’t need a random babysitter and it wouldn’t occur to me to use one, the only person that ever has my children is my mum but I would leave them with others if I trusted them and knew them well enough.

PumpkinsandKittens · 30/04/2022 00:14

And also to add and what has been pointed out already, strangers don’t generally have unsupervised access to people’s children , in their home alone, I’m sure if they did the percentage would change to reflect that but strangers don’t usually have the opportunity so I won’t be giving it to anyone, my oldest is 11 and I’ve never hired anyone to babysit her.

bittertwisted · 30/04/2022 00:15

Haven't commented for years on here
But as a mum of 3 fabulous sons absolutely enraged by this post

I would have trusted them with a male babysitter, and many families have trusted them in return

Utterly sick to death of the demonstration of boys

Chonfox · 30/04/2022 00:17

Absolutely not and I would judge anyone stupid enough to do so.

I'm sure many wouldn't mind though - I see idiots take risks with their children regularly.

FrankLeeSpeaking · 30/04/2022 00:17

PumpkinsandKittens · 30/04/2022 00:14

And also to add and what has been pointed out already, strangers don’t generally have unsupervised access to people’s children , in their home alone, I’m sure if they did the percentage would change to reflect that but strangers don’t usually have the opportunity so I won’t be giving it to anyone, my oldest is 11 and I’ve never hired anyone to babysit her.

Strangers don't usually have time to groom children over a longer period, though. (although of course they would have in this scenario, if they were hired regularly).
Agree that it's better to never take chances, though. If you can reduce or eliminate a risk, it's of course much better to do so.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 30/04/2022 00:17

Children and women are 'sick to death) of being victims of (not all) men though @bittertwisted.

And safeguarding must take precedence over hurt feelings.

RagzRebooted · 30/04/2022 00:21

Rinatinabina · 29/04/2022 12:15

No, the risk, there is always a risk. It is completely different if its a male I know well. I trust my brother and brother in-laws with DD. Thats it really.

Surely children are more often abused by male relatives than by strangers?

LivingFastForward · 30/04/2022 00:22

bittertwisted · 30/04/2022 00:15

Haven't commented for years on here
But as a mum of 3 fabulous sons absolutely enraged by this post

I would have trusted them with a male babysitter, and many families have trusted them in return

Utterly sick to death of the demonstration of boys

Enraged? People are entitled to not want your sons looking after their children. I have a son, he’s lovely. But I don’t expect others that don’t know him, or even those that do, to want him to look after their children.

Of those people that are a risk to children, the overwhelming majority are men.

PumpkinsandKittens · 30/04/2022 00:31

This week on my local area news page there are police appeals for 2 sexual assaults of teenage girls on public transport and a rape of a teenage girl, sorry but no I don’t believe it’s as rare as people like to make out, strangers just have less opportunity to abuse children as most people are sensible enough not to leave their child with a stranger.

Sunnytwobridges · 30/04/2022 00:32

I had a male sitter for a few months when I was kid. We loved him. He was our neighbor so my DPs knew him well.

i wouldn’t mind a male sitter if I knew them really well.

UlcerativePoliteness · 30/04/2022 00:39

BestDove · 29/04/2022 17:02

This is such a depressing thread!! Surely it's more important to know and have a connection with the babysitter. Their sex shouldn't come into the equation.

Can you imagine someone asking if a woman should be hired to do valet parking and the answer being "no women are shit drivers and can't be trusted not to crash a Porsche"??! It's just as ridiculous to exclude a man from babysitting purely on the basis of sex.

There’s no equivalent though with your example.

Men are statistically more likely to drive dangerously, crash, drink drive, than women, so this would be a clear example of discrimination.

Estimates put paedophilia rates at 1-2% of the male population. Disturbingly this means that in my village alone there are potentially up to 20 paedophiles.

It’s clear that people are going to have their own opinions on this matter, but it’s so depressing when women centre men all the time, despite there being risks, and that they put women down for being cautious.

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