Grrrrr Prince Harry ...

[FlipHesAnnoying]

When will he stop criticising the UK (fair enough you left us (thanks!), but stop with the 'oh the USA is great and UK is crap etc...' It's annoying)

And .... Remember Harry - we are NOT ALL LOADED!!! Where are we supposed to get the money for all this therapy you think we should have? The NHS is at breaking point (have you noticed? What r you doing to help?) And we can't all afford private therapy Harry ... especially not 4 years worth!! 'my therapist spoke to your therapist..' is not a reality for most of us struggling to afford heating.

Out of touch much? Yes

You read too much Daily Fail

I don't why people feel sorry for him at this point. If he'd shut up, he might be a lot happier. All he does is make things worse for himself. All that privilege and all he does is moan. It's tiresome.

I commented on that Telegraph article earlier but now all the comments have disappeared.
The problem I have is not that Harry is fighting for better mental health for veterans, that is entirely laudable, but that he undermines himself because it always ends up being all about "Me, Me, Me, poor little MEEEEE". All the therapy doesn't seem to be making him happy with its continual naval gazing, cycling again and again around the trauma of his mother's death and the alleged offences of his family and the Royal machine. The "service" he is supposedly so dedicated to is always better when it focuses on other people, that surely is the definition of service.

What Harry needs is a purpose in life; something that requires him to get up each morning, and go out each day. In other words...a job.

I doubt that all Americans can afford a therapist. And presumably those that can't have even more difficulty getting help than we do in the UK, at least here mental health treatment is free, although woefully inadequate in my experience with long waiting times.
But Harry is a very privileged young man, with lots of money. I doubt he has ever used the NHS and has very little knowledge of its workings. He's probably right, US is more used to talking about mental health problems openly (certainly when I lived there people were very willing to share their therapy experiences whether you wanted to hear them or not). I think there is a cultural difference, and I'm not saying the US way is a bad thing. However I think there should be an element of privacy and not continually talking about yourself, Harry has been encouraged to discuss his therapy on many occasions. He's been paid to do so. He's obviously found therapy very helpful, and I think he definitely needed therapy - he's got a distant Father, and he had an unstable mother who died when he was at a very vulnerable age. So good for him for getting the help he needed. He's become a bit evangelical about it though. Mental health covers a hugely wide range of conditions, from people who are helped by talking therapy, to people who are extremely often life threateningly unwell who need drugs or hospitalisation as part of their treatment. Harry waffling on about 'my therapist talking to your therapist' indicates he's pretty out of touch.
As a pp said - I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box, and he's rather unaware of the real world that most of us live in. That means that some of the things he says sound insulting and patronising, and that is born of ignorance and not having enough self awareness to realise he is in a very different position to ordinary people (maybe that's something he could work on with his therapist😉 !)
But having said that I do think raising awareness of mental health is a good thing, and even if people think he is nonsense spouting twerp they are talking about mental health in the light of his remarks. I think his heart is probably roughly in the right place. But as with all extremely privileged people, it can be rather hard to swallow the idea that he is telling us plebs how we should behave.

He's a self-absorbed, out of touch idiot who'd sell his granny for a yard of knicker elastic. Everyone knows it. Some won't admit it.

This about sums it up 😄😄😄

Why do you care if he puts the uk down? It's a bit of rock, not your marriage partner and put yourself on the waiting list for therapy through the nhs if you feel you need it and stop reading about him to improve your mental health

I'm shocked but maybe not surprised to see posters referring to his upbringing in the lap of luxury.

He was brought up by a string of nannies, the unwanted red haired second son of two parents who hated each other's guts, in a family presided over by a woman who refused to let her sister marry a man she loved (because duty) and ruined her life, and a man who spent his childhood bouncing around from post to pillar, hardly ever seeing his own parents, and who sent his son off to a horrific boarding school with predictable and regrettable results.

A lot of people have clearly spent years, maybe even decades, projecting whatever they wanted to see in a prince onto Harry and are for some reason angry at him when it turns out he isn't that fantasy.

Whatever about his sons, but I don't think Philip was thick at all

The views he expressed about different races, women and various people around the world showed he was pretty ignorant!

a family presided over by a woman who refused to let her sister marry a man she loved (because duty) and ruined her life

Well, that's simply false for starters. The queen made great efforts to find a way that Margaret could marry Townsend without giving up too many of her royal privileges. Recently released letters show that it was in fact Margaret who chose to end the relationship with Townsend. She had simply fallen out of love with him.

Are you getting your 'history' from 'The Crown'?

Harry was never going to be a genius with those parents (yes, I do mean both of them). However, he was well loved by many and supremely popular among his peers. It is impossible for him to sever so many ties within the space of a few months without batting an eyelid. Right now, he has delegated all the thinking and planning to one person who has also fed him a range of her opinions which he is now unable to distinguish from his own. The more he parrots them in the press, the more people want to roll their eyes and switch off from him. He was always a disaster waiting to happen. I don't think that it has even started unfolding properly yet. Right now, he is all zombified, placated by good weed and ensconced with a bubble of wealthy, useless Californian social climbers. We know that it is unsustainable. Something will give. He surely won't still be performing unimpressive skits and reading her phony speeches out in ten years time. There are still old friends who care about him but they won't be reaching out to him until they are sure that Lady Macbeth is well and truly not controlling his strings.

But not by the standards of his day, unfortunately.

Philip was a lot of things, but 'thick' he was not.

@IcedPurple, Medicaid covers mental health services in most states. In California, currently run by a Democratic governor, there is no reason to believe people relying on Medicaid have an experience any different from the experience of a friend of mine in Illinois, who sees a psychiatrist regularly, receives free medications to control her condition, and sees her therapist once a week through her family practice doctor's group practice, all at no cost to her. She was hospitalised two years ago, again at no cost.

SherbetDips · 27/04/2022 16:46
"Such a shame as he was such a down to earth guy."

I've always thought that he was a whiny tosser. As said his addiction issues and real personality was covered up by the media. He never appreciated that he had to work for what he was given, just like any of us.

"But unfortunately that women had got her claws into him"

I supported them getting out and emigrating. But the more he speaks individually, the more I think that he threw her under the bus. He should have got her help, but didn't. Things like him making the announcement of her pregnancy before Eugenie's wedding was on him. Meghan wouldn't have known the protocol. I now wonder how much direction he gave her. For her to not know beforehand that they still have to curtsy to the Queen in private shows he did nothing to prepare her for events.

So based on your anecdote of one person, living in an entirely different state, you believe it would be easy for your average Californian to promptly access therapy?

And Harry wasn't talking about waiting lists or publicly funded care. He has no concept of either. He was talking about 'attitudes'. Apparently, living for 5 months in a rich people bubble in California, and shilling woo 'life coaching' for a commercial entity, makes you an expert in such matters.

SherbetDips · 27/04/2022 16:46
"Such a shame as he was such a down to earth guy."

I've always thought that he was a whiny tosser. As said his addiction issues and real personality was covered up by the media. He never appreciated that he had to work for what he was given, just like any of us.

"But unfortunately that women had got her claws into him"

I supported them getting out and emigrating. But the more he speaks individually, the more I think that he threw her under the bus. He should have got her help, but didn't. Things like him making the announcement of her pregnancy before Eugenie's wedding was on him. Meghan wouldn't have known the protocol. I now wonder how much direction he gave her. For her to not know beforehand that they still have to curtsy to the Queen in private shows he did nothing to prepare her for events.

He is basing his views of American culture and life upon the extremely narrow range of opinions he is fed by Mrs Phony and her gang 99.9% of the time. I bet he could not even define Obamacare because they don't use it. Meghan is allergic to everything poverty-related unless the cameras are rolling and the contracts are in place. She would only discuss it with him to make sure he performs as she wants, right in advance of their PR stunts. Contrary to what he wants us to believe (and he has made this point repeatedly), they do not stay up at night desperately trying to come up with ways to make the world batter in any way (unless it is for their own financial advantage).

@IcedPurple, you are saying that it was laudable of the Queen to present to Margaret the choice between marrying Townsend and retaining her privileges? No wonder she 'fell out of love with him'.

This is not a family in which the personal feelings of the individuals in it matter at all.

Definitely this. He's irritating these days but I do think he's not adapting well. I really hoped he'd stay in Canada and just build a life quietly..

I am shocked to see therapy referred to as navel gazing.

This is terminology you would expect to find in a boarding school of the 1950s, not the enlightened Britain of today.

Don't know, it seems more like being in a fed up exs meeting who are sick of being slagged off to one and all.

No that's not what I'm saying. Do your own research. Margaret could have kept almost all her royal privileges and married Townsend. She just didn't want to.

And I'm not sure why you think an incident from the 1950s is relevant today. Most of Harry's generation of royals seem to be doing OK, as far as we can tell. Maybe the problem is Harry?

Harry seems to have hit the nail on the head again.

'Navel gazing', 'self pity', and other similar denunciations of therapy reveal much.