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AIBU to want to know the truth about this?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 25/04/2022 14:39

Noah Donohoe was an intelligent, smart, kind and gentle boy. He was 14 years old, the only child of Fiona Donohoe and her everything.

On 21st June 2020, a bright sunny day and as lockdown had eased, Noah set off on his bike to meet up with his two friends to do some schoolwork together, but never reached his destination. Instead, Noah's body was found 6 days later in a storm-drain, naked, in a part of his home city he did not know.

On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved. If the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved and that they will not be found wanting under scrutiny, why are they now trying to stop Noah’s mother and her legal team getting access to four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

The Police have applied for a ‘Public Interest Immunity’ certificate, which, if granted, means they can hide four key files in the investigation. Such a certificate is only used in exceptional circumstances and rarely used in the case of a missing child. This certificate has been brought into play in cases where Police intelligence, informers or paramilitaries are involved.

Noah’s mummy has, from the very start of Noah being missing, believed that the police did not use all their resources in finding Noah. This was confirmed when it emerged they had not paid anyone overtime while investigating his death. They did little, if any, forensics and any suspects that were brought to their attention were dismissed as not relevant.

Noah's mummy believes that someone harmed Noah and that there have been serious and repeated failings in the Police investigation of his death. She will never get to the truth and Justice for Noah if she does not get all the information. These four files are vital to get the truth she desperately needs, to find out what really happened to her precious son.

This is a podcast with Noah's mother. It is a hard watch and so a trigger warning may be needed before watching:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWsr3giWH8

After watching the podcast and the more I get to know, the more questions and doubts I have, and the more difficult it is to believe the police claim of 'No Foul Play'. Noah's death is being treated as a coroner's investigation and the police are not actively pursuing any person or persons in relation to it. Given the lack of a proper investigation into Noah's disappearance and death by the police and their application to keep their files secret, it is difficult to have any confidence in them. In fact, this has been described as their 'Stephen Lawrence moment'. Add to this that Noah's mother and auntie have received telephone threats, are trolled daily online and posters of Noah have been defaced - his face deliberately cut out of them. My own view is that the files must be released and a new and independent investigation begun.

As a parent, a member of the public and a long-standing Mumsnetter, I want to know the truth about what happened to Noah. Even more importantly, I want his mother Fiona to get the truth she needs to be allowed to grieve properly for her son, for Noah to get the justice he truly deserves, for all other children to be safe in the future and to place transparency and accountability where it should rightly be.

AIBU?

This is an earlier thread about Noah, nearly full and so about to close to new posts, but with useful links to newspaper articles and also to a petition in support of his mother:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

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CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:16

Thank you @MNettersForNoahAndFiona for keeping us up to date Flowers. I really hope the elections in Northern Ireland make a difference to Fiona’s campaign for Noah.

Thank you. Let's hope so. Nobody is going to be allowed to forget Noah and Fiona, that's for sure. 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:35

DressingGownofDoom · 07/05/2022 11:32

That is a fair response from MNHQ tbh OP

Do you think so? I'll have to come back on that a bit later.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:38

CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:24

It is no easy task and I’m sure everyone trying to keep this thread prominent appreciates every scrap of help.

Absolutely. Thank you to everyone who helps in ways large or small. Flowers

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:39

CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:23

And thank you to everyone who signs the petition and everyone posting to help bump this thread into Active where it will be seen by as many Mumsnetters as possible.

Fiona's petition on Change has 306,101 signatures so far.

If you would like to give your support to this mother by signing or signing and sharing, the link to it is in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Please remember to confirm your signature or it won't count.
Thank you 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:44

No idea why those photos appear twice in my post, sorry. I only added them once. We're only meant to be able to add 3 images too and there's 4! Must be another gremlin in the new Mumsnet format. At least it emphasises my point about Noah and Fiona not being forgotten! Smile

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 20:04

Fiona's sister Niamh Donohoe on Twitter:
'Thank you to all who support our relentless fight for justice for Noah. We are just 6 short months away from Noah's Inquest date and there is still so much to be done. Noah's voice was heard loud & clear during #AE22, (the election), Noah's Army⚡made sure of that💙🙏⚡ WeWillNotStop⚡'

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 20:28

Sinn Féin has now won 27 seats, confirming it as the biggest party in the Northern Ireland Assembly for the first time. Let's hope that the photo opportunity and spoken promises to support justice for Noah made to Fiona and Niamh in the past are finally acted upon.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 20:41

There were 11,084 spoilt ballots and one candidate said this:

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 20:47

Beautiful Noah 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 20:51

Please will you sign or sign and share Fiona's petition?

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TreeFella · 07/05/2022 20:58

Signed. Why won't the police release the files?

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:03

Justice is more important than any election.

Yes indeed and I hope the politicians will keep their promises to seek the truth for Fiona.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:05

A lot of voters will be waiting and watching for them to deliver.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:09

And their actions will be remembered come the time for fresh elections.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:12

Fiona has endured almost two years of torment not knowing how her beautiful, sunny, loving child died.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:18

That is almost two years longer than any bereaved mother should have to endure. Investigating the death and disappearance of a child should be a top priority for any police force.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:23

It is high time for Noah’s case to be given the priority it deserves.

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:26

If you are reading will you add your voice to the many asking for the truth about what happened to Noah to be uncovered?

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:30

Please will you sign and share the petition linked in the opening post urging the Police Service Northern Ireland not to seal four files from its investigation into Noah’s death?

CatChant · 08/05/2022 00:33

It will only take a few moments and if enough people sign it could make a real difference.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/05/2022 08:50

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/05/2022 08:51

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/05/2022 08:52

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/05/2022 08:53

💙Noah💙

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/05/2022 08:53

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