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AIBU to want to know the truth about this?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 25/04/2022 14:39

Noah Donohoe was an intelligent, smart, kind and gentle boy. He was 14 years old, the only child of Fiona Donohoe and her everything.

On 21st June 2020, a bright sunny day and as lockdown had eased, Noah set off on his bike to meet up with his two friends to do some schoolwork together, but never reached his destination. Instead, Noah's body was found 6 days later in a storm-drain, naked, in a part of his home city he did not know.

On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved. If the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved and that they will not be found wanting under scrutiny, why are they now trying to stop Noah’s mother and her legal team getting access to four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

The Police have applied for a ‘Public Interest Immunity’ certificate, which, if granted, means they can hide four key files in the investigation. Such a certificate is only used in exceptional circumstances and rarely used in the case of a missing child. This certificate has been brought into play in cases where Police intelligence, informers or paramilitaries are involved.

Noah’s mummy has, from the very start of Noah being missing, believed that the police did not use all their resources in finding Noah. This was confirmed when it emerged they had not paid anyone overtime while investigating his death. They did little, if any, forensics and any suspects that were brought to their attention were dismissed as not relevant.

Noah's mummy believes that someone harmed Noah and that there have been serious and repeated failings in the Police investigation of his death. She will never get to the truth and Justice for Noah if she does not get all the information. These four files are vital to get the truth she desperately needs, to find out what really happened to her precious son.

This is a podcast with Noah's mother. It is a hard watch and so a trigger warning may be needed before watching:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWsr3giWH8

After watching the podcast and the more I get to know, the more questions and doubts I have, and the more difficult it is to believe the police claim of 'No Foul Play'. Noah's death is being treated as a coroner's investigation and the police are not actively pursuing any person or persons in relation to it. Given the lack of a proper investigation into Noah's disappearance and death by the police and their application to keep their files secret, it is difficult to have any confidence in them. In fact, this has been described as their 'Stephen Lawrence moment'. Add to this that Noah's mother and auntie have received telephone threats, are trolled daily online and posters of Noah have been defaced - his face deliberately cut out of them. My own view is that the files must be released and a new and independent investigation begun.

As a parent, a member of the public and a long-standing Mumsnetter, I want to know the truth about what happened to Noah. Even more importantly, I want his mother Fiona to get the truth she needs to be allowed to grieve properly for her son, for Noah to get the justice he truly deserves, for all other children to be safe in the future and to place transparency and accountability where it should rightly be.

AIBU?

This is an earlier thread about Noah, nearly full and so about to close to new posts, but with useful links to newspaper articles and also to a petition in support of his mother:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

AIBU to want to know the truth about this?
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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 06/05/2022 21:39

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BestDove · 06/05/2022 21:54

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CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:16

Thank you @MNettersForNoahAndFiona for keeping us up to date Flowers. I really hope the elections in Northern Ireland make a difference to Fiona’s campaign for Noah.

EllaB22 · 06/05/2022 22:23

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CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:23

And thank you to everyone who signs the petition and everyone posting to help bump this thread into Active where it will be seen by as many Mumsnetters as possible.

CatChant · 06/05/2022 22:24

It is no easy task and I’m sure everyone trying to keep this thread prominent appreciates every scrap of help.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 07/05/2022 06:44

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MichelleScarn · 07/05/2022 09:08

Bumping for Noah

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 10:41

Thank you pps Flowers

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 10:54

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 22:58

Somewhat...'callous'.

All help to combat this gratefully received. 💙

Please bear in mind it can take up to TEN posts to appear in Active.

Yesterday, and without further contact from me other than posting about the issue on this thread, I received this further email:

Dear MNettersForNoahAndFiona,
Reading back my response I realise the tone sounds snippier than I'd intended.
I do apologise for that - I think I just got a little frustrated because we've replied several times to you previously with regard to this same query.
I do understand this issue is very important to you but our Active page is designed to try to help ensure that newer queries, in which people are sometimes in dire need of a speedy response, don't get crowded out by very long running threads.
We're here to make parents' lives easier and to allow as many users as possible access to peer-to-peer advice and our design decisions are based on that principle.
Please be assured there is no conspiracy here - the Active page works the same for all threads.
Kind regards,
Michael.
MNHQ

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:17

Addicted2LuvIsland · 06/05/2022 21:33

Heart breaking case. How can you say no foul play? The child was naked. Ridiculous.

Absolutely. The police and coroner and those people involved in what really happened to this child are taking people for fools. So many questions, so many gaps in the 'investigation', so much misinformation and misdirection put out by the police.

Just one example is about the fall from his bike. The police claim Noah bumped his head and that is what led in all likelihood to him allegedly discarding his rucksack with his laptop and books, his phone, becoming disorientated, going the wrong way into the unknown area in which he was found, overheating, removing all his clothes, cycling naked, discarding his bike and entering a storm drain where he travelled nearly a kilometre and died of drowning. Noah set off with his helmet on. The witness who said she saw him fall off his bike said he got straight back up again and cycled off. She was in her car with her child. She said she did not see him bump his head. She said she did not say to the police that he bumped his head.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 07/05/2022 11:22

BestDove · 06/05/2022 21:54

Signed 💙

Thank you 💙

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DressingGownofDoom · 07/05/2022 11:32

That is a fair response from MNHQ tbh OP

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