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AIBU to want to know the truth about this?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 25/04/2022 14:39

Noah Donohoe was an intelligent, smart, kind and gentle boy. He was 14 years old, the only child of Fiona Donohoe and her everything.

On 21st June 2020, a bright sunny day and as lockdown had eased, Noah set off on his bike to meet up with his two friends to do some schoolwork together, but never reached his destination. Instead, Noah's body was found 6 days later in a storm-drain, naked, in a part of his home city he did not know.

On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved. If the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved and that they will not be found wanting under scrutiny, why are they now trying to stop Noah’s mother and her legal team getting access to four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

The Police have applied for a ‘Public Interest Immunity’ certificate, which, if granted, means they can hide four key files in the investigation. Such a certificate is only used in exceptional circumstances and rarely used in the case of a missing child. This certificate has been brought into play in cases where Police intelligence, informers or paramilitaries are involved.

Noah’s mummy has, from the very start of Noah being missing, believed that the police did not use all their resources in finding Noah. This was confirmed when it emerged they had not paid anyone overtime while investigating his death. They did little, if any, forensics and any suspects that were brought to their attention were dismissed as not relevant.

Noah's mummy believes that someone harmed Noah and that there have been serious and repeated failings in the Police investigation of his death. She will never get to the truth and Justice for Noah if she does not get all the information. These four files are vital to get the truth she desperately needs, to find out what really happened to her precious son.

This is a podcast with Noah's mother. It is a hard watch and so a trigger warning may be needed before watching:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWsr3giWH8

After watching the podcast and the more I get to know, the more questions and doubts I have, and the more difficult it is to believe the police claim of 'No Foul Play'. Noah's death is being treated as a coroner's investigation and the police are not actively pursuing any person or persons in relation to it. Given the lack of a proper investigation into Noah's disappearance and death by the police and their application to keep their files secret, it is difficult to have any confidence in them. In fact, this has been described as their 'Stephen Lawrence moment'. Add to this that Noah's mother and auntie have received telephone threats, are trolled daily online and posters of Noah have been defaced - his face deliberately cut out of them. My own view is that the files must be released and a new and independent investigation begun.

As a parent, a member of the public and a long-standing Mumsnetter, I want to know the truth about what happened to Noah. Even more importantly, I want his mother Fiona to get the truth she needs to be allowed to grieve properly for her son, for Noah to get the justice he truly deserves, for all other children to be safe in the future and to place transparency and accountability where it should rightly be.

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This is an earlier thread about Noah, nearly full and so about to close to new posts, but with useful links to newspaper articles and also to a petition in support of his mother:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:22

ReiltinDubh · 01/05/2022 19:06

I don't know how I'd keep going. I don't know how Fiona gets out of bed and faces each day, with the battle she's had to fight since Sunday 21st June 2020.

Fiona 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:37

ReiltinDubh · 01/05/2022 20:09

Thank you @lennyloo82 💙
Share to your sm, I've found WhatsApp a good way to share as you start a conversation 💙
The more people that hear Noah's story the more sunlight there is on the powers that be.

Also:

There is a Twitter storm on Sundays at 6.11pm. This week's:
#Week97 #AE22 #NoahIsAllOurChildren #PublicInquiryForNoahDonohoe #DemandAPublicEnquiry #ReleaseTheFiles

Contact your MP, Brandon Lewis, Doreen Lawrence

Contact the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, ie major channels and newspapers

Share the petition as widely as possible

Help to bump this thread

It depends where you are, but see the attached. Some people will be spoiling their ballot papers in Northern Ireland and voting for Noah instead:

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:44

ReiltinDubh · 01/05/2022 20:05

Look at his beautiful sleeping face
My heart just breaks every time I see a picture of him.
I've taken so many similar pictures with my own beautiful boy
💙💙💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:48

Fiona's petition on Change has 305,787 signatures so far, with a target of 500k.

If you would like to add your support by signing or signing and sharing, the link to it is in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Please remember to confirm your signature or it won't count.

Thank you 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:49

Bumping till Active...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:50

Bump💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 20:51

Bumping...

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catandcoffee · 01/05/2022 20:54

bumping too.
Noah 💙

catandcoffee · 01/05/2022 20:56

#justicefornoah 💙

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 01/05/2022 21:00

Thank you pp Flowers

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MichelleScarn · 01/05/2022 21:31

Bumping for Noah and Fiona 💙💙

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:07

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:13

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:13

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:14

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:15

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 22:17

💙Noah💙

CatChant · 01/05/2022 22:57

I came across a school newsletter photo of Noah. He’d won a class award and his lovely face was lit up with that amazing smile.

The caption described him as kind and conscientious, eager and willing to help, with excellent manners and excellent academically, and a good friend to everyone in his class.

He must have been a delight to teach, to have as a friend, to have your child befriend, as well as being the joy of Fiona’s life.

He didn’t have very long but he shone so very, very brightly in his lifetime.

CatChant · 01/05/2022 23:00

In lovely Noah’s memory please be a good friend to his mother Fiona.

CatChant · 01/05/2022 23:02

Please help her find the truth about what happened to her beloved child.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 01/05/2022 23:14

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EllaB22 · 01/05/2022 23:47

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ReiltinDubh · 02/05/2022 00:11

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 02/05/2022 08:14

Thank you pps Flowers

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 02/05/2022 08:59

Noah 💙

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