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Ryza · 24/04/2022 07:42

Good Morning 👋

I REALLY need help with this one, I will try and keep it as short as possible.

My DS12 is currently in his first year of secondary school.

He has settled in very well 🙂

The issue is regarding another child in my sons class, we will refer him as X.

Just for the record, I don’t feel the least bit comfortable discussing another persons child on a parenting group.

During the first few weeks of the beginning of term, DS told me that there is a boy in his class that doesn’t come across as a nice person and that his friends and a few other boys discreetly make fun of him.

He said that he always steps in and tells them to leave him alone and to be kind, he had also tried to take the time out and speak to him, but he just tells him to go away.

That particular day, he had said that for the first time at lunch break, he spoke to X and he actually seemed like a nice person, and that he would like to be X friend because he doesn’t have any.

Fast forwarding

My mum collects DS from school, so does X mum and the pair of them became friendly with one another.

DS went to X house twice before I met mum, who seemed lovely so did X.

She let me know that X has always found it hard to make friends, never had friends home from school, and that she is happy and relieved that he has finally found someone.

During half-team DS was invited out to attend some VERY expensive activities and days out with X (very wealthy family) I let him go, because mum is lovely and I trust her with DS.

On Wednesday, DS didn’t want to go to school (which is very unusual) it took a while for him to tell me what was wrong.

X had sent him text messages threatening to kill him and our family, he if doesn’t stop speaking to his best friend which he has known since Prep.

I asked him if this was the first time he had ever been nasty to him, it turns out that it isn’t.

DS said sometimes at school, X pinches him under the table, but he always apologises.

I have asked him to write down what other nasty things X has said/done to him.

X gets upset when we play a game and he loses, so I always let him win.

X doesn’t like me playing with my other friends online, I try and include him but he says he doesn’t want to join, because I’m playing with my other friends.

X calls me stupid sometimes for no reason, but always apologises.

I believe that mum is aware of what X is like, and when I come to think about it, it’s almost as if she has been bribing my son with expensive activities, days out and trips.

He has asked me not to tell X mum or anyone else, would it be unreasonable of me to raise this issue with the school and show them the texts?
school more than likely would ask X to leave.

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RealBecca · 24/04/2022 10:58

She was crying, I told her I was planning to raise the issue with school, she said that I don’t have to do that, and she could remove him herself and have him home schooled.

I'd follow up with a text on Monday and say you've spoken to the school and hope they can support her son. It's a heads up and clear that you've acted and it's up to her what she does next. But I'd expect her to change her tune.

Ryza · 24/04/2022 10:58

AchillesPoirot · 24/04/2022 10:45

As if she's going to remove him from school based on a phone call from you.

What does your husband think of you phoning her?

I have not told DH, I will be taking DS to school tomorrow.

I’ve also briefly told DS best friends mum, and she has also told me to notify the school.

My son does not deserve this, it hurts even more knowing that he is so kind and dislikes seeing others upset.

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AchillesPoirot · 24/04/2022 10:59

You need to tell your husband.

Have you told DS you're telling others?

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:02

I can’t tell DH, it will just make the whole situation worst!

I haven’t told DS yet.

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Qwill · 24/04/2022 11:02

How are you going to protect your son from your violent husband to ensure he doesn’t grow up behaving the same way and thinking violence is a proportional response and women should be scared of him?

AchillesPoirot · 24/04/2022 11:04

You've told others and not told your DS you're going to. That's not really fair on him.

Etinoxaurus · 24/04/2022 11:05

DolphinaPD · 24/04/2022 08:42

I'd speak to the mother first, she's the parent.

No. Bad advice.

Etinoxaurus · 24/04/2022 11:07

Blimey what a car crash. Over and out.

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:09

Qwill · 24/04/2022 11:02

How are you going to protect your son from your violent husband to ensure he doesn’t grow up behaving the same way and thinking violence is a proportional response and women should be scared of him?

DS has never ever witnessed any violence and he never will. DH will be annoyed at DS for letting someone treat him like that.

Our childrens safety and mental health has always been most important to DH

DH and I are the complete opposite…

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CPL593H · 24/04/2022 11:13

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:09

DS has never ever witnessed any violence and he never will. DH will be annoyed at DS for letting someone treat him like that.

Our childrens safety and mental health has always been most important to DH

DH and I are the complete opposite…

This makes absolutely zero sense.

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:15

Can you please tell me what exactly doesn’t make any sense?

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SocksAndTheCity · 24/04/2022 11:19

So to summarise, your husband doesn't believe in nastiness or bullying (unless it's him that gets to do it) and you both believe that 'nasty' children are only to be found in State schools and couldn't possibly be where wealthy people hang out?

I'd say this other child is the least of your son's worries.

Qwill · 24/04/2022 11:19

Your son’s mental health can’t be important to your husband if he thinks the best way of sorting things is to physically attack someone and make the victim feel bad. Your husband sounds like a bully. I would imagine your child is more intelligent than you are giving him credit for, he will certainly pick up on things like this, especially your fear of your husband’s reactions. I would suggest you look at your own family before rushing to condemn another child and their parents.

CPL593H · 24/04/2022 11:34

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:15

Can you please tell me what exactly doesn’t make any sense?

On the one hand, you are concerned about the risk of your DH assaulting someone if you tell him, yet "Our childrens safety and mental health has always been most important to DH" People concerned about their children's wellbeing do not need to be shielded from information lest they overreact in a criminal fashion.

You also think that this father (who apparently prioritises his children's mental health) will be "annoyed at DS for letting someone treat him like that."

Are you also saying that you DON'T prioritise your children's safety and mental health as "DH and I are the complete opposite…" or does that just relate to his violent tendencies?

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:36

SocksAndTheCity · 24/04/2022 11:19

So to summarise, your husband doesn't believe in nastiness or bullying (unless it's him that gets to do it) and you both believe that 'nasty' children are only to be found in State schools and couldn't possibly be where wealthy people hang out?

I'd say this other child is the least of your son's worries.

I was privately educated myself, school were always good when it came to tackling bullying. Fortunately I was never a victim of it myself!

I do know that state schools aren’t as good when it comes to those things.

We have 3 sons in total, DH pays the fees. He is Jamaican born, and attended state school here, he said that it’s easier to just send all 3 boys to private school, because he doesn’t want to put others children parents into problems, if they think their child thinks they can violate ours.

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Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:40

Are you also saying that you DON'T prioritise your children's safety and mental health as "DH and I are the complete opposite…" or does that just relate to his violent tendencies?

No not at all, meaning that I am white from rather privileged background, so our morals and thinking aren’t the same. DH works very hard, to give the boys a head start in life.

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PonyPatter44 · 24/04/2022 11:45

Does your DH not understand that there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things? And that punching people on the nose is very rarely the right way to handle things? In fact, given that he is a black man trying to negotiate his children growing up in a more privileged world than he did, is he fucking STUPID?

I don't want to be a drama queen but disturbed children making threats to kill need to be taken seriously. You need to get the police involved, and you need to tell the school and your muppet DH, along with a stern warning to control himself at any cost.

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:49

I agree with the first part.

Yes, I know that the threats to kill need to be taken very serious, but I don’t feel as if I need to get the police involved.

That would mean them coming to the house and needing to see evidence and take a statement, I can’t tell DH about this.

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percylepusscat · 24/04/2022 11:49

@Ryza are you going to report this to the school tomorrow? You know you have to, right?

Ryza · 24/04/2022 11:50

Yes, I’ll be taking DS to school tomorrow.

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Valhalla17 · 24/04/2022 12:02

Your DH being Jamaican born has no relevance. My father is Jamaican and he would not assault someone. Hmm

As ds father he should be informed of what's going on. If you can't do that without him kicking off then you have far bigger problems in your family.

You need to speak to ds to give him the heads up.

You seem to be very keen to create drama and discuss with others (the mum of X, mum of ds best friend) about everything.....really odd to not tell your own ds and dh about what you're doing!

KangarooKenny · 24/04/2022 12:22

tomatoandherbs · 24/04/2022 10:13

Bowing out
op fanning flames, ignoring advice

Me too.

Ryza · 24/04/2022 12:40

Just spoke to DS, he has said he doesn’t want to get X in trouble, my answer to that was I need to insure your safe whilst at school.

I have not ignored any advice!

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PonyPatter44 · 24/04/2022 12:52

What if this child actually does do something to harm your DS or even you or DH? Isn't your DH going to be furious that noone told him his family was at risk?

How would you feel if your DH and DS were keeping this secret from you?

Ryza · 24/04/2022 13:03

The child is not going to do anything, it was his way of obviously trying to scare DS.

What could he possibly do? He is 12!

I would be furious if DS & DH kept this from me!

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