My dh and I were discussing the tory party. He really dislikes what they stand for.aibu to.ask .. .

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Ask if you.vote tory and would be planning to continue to do so.. why and what do you like about the party?in the circles we mix in no one votes tory that we know of so cant ask in real life.. but there must be many who vote this way.

I’ll be voting Tory next time having never done so before. This is because they are the only party who know that a woman is an adult human female. Any party that can’t state this cannot possibly be on women’s side.

Boris has done a LOT of good which people are happily forgetting atm

All right, I’ll bite. What am I happily forgetting?

I'd be interested to know more about this LOT of good too.

@tomatoandherbs

Quote: It is very simple really. If you receive UC, you have a work allowance ie a amount you can earn without your benefits being reduced. Once you hit the work allowance, you lose 55p for every pound (very recently was 63p)

If you earn over the 12k odd tax threshold as well as losing your 55p of benefits because you earned more I assume you lose 20p to income tax and 13p national insurance (as well as student loan and pension deduction if applicable) so you lose 88p of each £1 at least?

It's good to hear that you can keep several hundred pounds before deductions from benefits but if the above is correct and you keep just 12p in the £1 then little incentive to work more if you earn within the taper amount. That would mean for an extra hour earning £10 you would take home £1.20 more?

@tomatoandherbs
If for example a family receives 20k of benefits (housing/council tax and income) and then one of the adults gets a job paying 19k - is it possible to say what the total houseehold income would be then? How much better off would they be for taking that job and working full time?

Sorry despite you saying I wouldn't know how to work it out.

For me they got Brexit done, Teresa May faffed about. It’s not perfect but it’s a starting point. Not because I’m racist or anti anything but because Europe got too big. 28 counteries - 8 paid in.
They paid self employed earnings super quick during lockdiwn. They paid my ferlow quickly too Lockdiwn was painless.
They didn’t impose martial law or police state lockdown.
they got the vaccine out really quickly and for free. Then boosters. Then second boosters.
They support many single issues I want to remain.
They said that women were women

i don’t mind they chance it. Labour pretend they have all the answers when clearly politics are not an easy fix but a bit of a cluster fuck worldwide.

it will take 6 months of a Labour government to admit there’s no great solution (hence they Labour aren’t actually offering one) and a bit of tweaking tax doesn’t make up for a robust idea about where the counteries headed.

@Winter2020
gov benefit calculator will give you a very strong indication
you can input as many different scenarios, earnings etc as your imagination allows!

In short
under UC (not necessarily under tax credits because their totally different approach is end of benefits if more than 16 hours worked), you will always be better off working

You aren’t taxes anything up to £12,250
aury you knew that?!

Ah yes you did!

under UC you will never be “worse off” earning
it might not be much more
but it will always be more
plus!! 85% back on al your childcare costs. This is brilliant for me!!

Better off working!
It doesn't matter, everyone should work if they can, the comparison to benefits is irrelevant, it's not an argument. Where the ethical morality in deciding not to work.
Somehow, some Brits have ended up with a warped view of what it means to provide.

I will vote COnservative if they are the party in my area which is most likely to give the SNP a kicking. Because I loathe and despise Sturgeon and her nationalists more than anyone else.

@Hrpuffnstuff1

i agree in principle
but I have ZERO judgement if a struggling single mother looks at her situation strategically in order to secure the most she can.

Me too! I most likely would anyway but it's an added incentive for sure.

I can't quite get beyond the fact that so many women on here are fine with the current bunch of Tory's constant fraud, dodgy contracts non tendered , to mates, fining people massive amounts for not following rules whilst ignoring them themselves and telling complete bullshit about worldbeating- take for example the idea you could travel about again far quicker than anywhere else-- news to me as we went to Majorca in June last year from being based in Denmark and I had already had all my jabs too, perfectly full supermarkets etc. No party is perfect and I'm not keen on the ultra left either but the fact is we have a bunch of self serving alley cats in charge at the moment, happy to lie, happy to bullshit.

But they say they know what a woman is. So basically they can get away with any corrupt, immoral and dishonest behaviour and some women will still vote for them. It’s like they’ve written themselves a blank cheque.

And as for the idea of well 'he got Brexit done' what a raging success that's been. 20 mile queues at ports, farming and fishing decimated as is a lot of exporting in any companies with trade outside the UK. GDP vastly down, I have 3 friends who all had nice little cottage industries- all had to stop because exporting no longer works and UK trade not enough to make it pay. The idea too that well he paid furlough and self employed during covid so did most other places Here they paid office and shop rents too -- and not loans!!

I think the woman thing is an absolute PR stunt stupid naive people on the far left trying to discredit Starmer as they are being airbrushed out somewhat and then lapped up by the Tory's. Keir was asked a very specific thing related to law and as a lawyer he answered factually. My son knows many in senior politics , Tory PR keeps feeding the media trans story stuff most people simply aren't interested but they are quite Wily and know a lot of women get wound up about it and make decisions based on such 'fluff' - I'm afraid all is fair in love and war and personally I'm not remotely interested in the total over saturation of the trans subject I would rather focus on something minority of more importance such as mental health or the disabled -- areas the gvt are not doing well on either.

Very true @Crikeyalmighty but please, for the love of God, desist from the strikethrough!

I wouldn’t say women’s rights are fluff

thankfully I see others saying the same

I voted Tory last time because Corbyn and Abbot's Labour was wishy washy. This time I don't know, but if David Lamey and Co keep telling is TWAW and calling us rights hording dinosaurs then it won't be Labour I vote for.

It's pure misogyny to tell women that their concern for women's rights and for free debate about sex based rights amounts to fluff. Try it with any other group that is concerned for equal rights and see how far you get.

I think your keyboard is broken. You may want to get a new one.

You're far from alone in voting Conservative to boot Sturgeon's SNP out. It really says a lot when Scotland has almost completely rejected Labour in favour of the Conservatives and SNP.

It's an interesting one, that. Labour themselves claim that it's because they teamed up with the Tories during Indyref. The Tories (and a lot of Labour voters) actually quite enjoyed that teaming up. Common ground was found, ideas were seen to be not a million miles apart, it was all very good natured. Tories on the whole know that the only way to get shot of the SNP and do something about improving life up here is to cooperate with the other parties and Labour in particular, but unfortunately the latter would rather fight the Tories than the SNP. Sad, really. Great things could be achieved with a Tory/Labour/anybody else coalition and God knows we need it.