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Oh do piss off, Harry

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HettySunshine · 20/04/2022 11:34

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/20/prince-harry-says-queen-on-great-form-during-visit?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

The Queen has coped for most of her life without you. I don't think she needs you 'protecting her' now.

I'm usually entire ambivalent to the royals but this has really bruised my cherry!

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Cazalet · 20/04/2022 16:27

He is deluded. Just talks waffle.I feel sorry for his father to be honest.

ZerotwoZero · 20/04/2022 16:27

I see the resident sussex squad have gathered to inform all the unwashed we are uninformed and bullying H&M. 🤣 Let's face it Harry had a life previously where all his miscreant deeds were covered up to the max from raisist comments, to drinking drug use and getting his education results tampered so he could pass. He lived a petulant life of coverups and now he's free with a god digger for all to see. We don't need a newspaper to tell us that you only need to see the videos and interviews he is freely involved in. If they don't like it stop, but they won't they need maximum exposure for their grotty celebrity life style.

ancientgran · 20/04/2022 16:28

VeganGod · 20/04/2022 14:40

He was critical of how his father was brought up so I that is criticising his grandmother and grandfather and nothing to do with him as he wasn't around at the time. I think it is likely that she was hurt by that.

It has everything to do with him if he feels it affected the way he was in turn parented by Charles. And that it will affect how he will parent his own children. We know that our experiences as children have so much of an impact on us as adults and the relationships we have. He talked about breaking the cycle. Having had an abusive childhood and my own and a father that was himself abused as a child, that should be talked about. He is allowed to talk about things that are relevant to his life, that link to his own mental health. I’m quite uncomfortable with people being told they should be quiet about things like that.

His issue is with Charles, he isn't a psychiatrist so he can't diagnose what is wrong with Charles or what caused it. Do you seriously think the Queen abused Charles? The fact that Harry thinks everyone should be as emotional as him doesn't mean more reserved people are abusive. He also lied about things in his childhood like never having a bike ride with his father and we've seen the photos.

Anyway whatever happened he said something that would clearly be hurtful to his grandmother so saying he hasn't done anything to her is wrong. He said something quite cruel about a woman in her 90s. Not classy, not loving and not protective.

PlasticineMeg · 20/04/2022 16:35

RonaldMcDonald · 20/04/2022 15:20

Why does this all come back to the Duchess of Sussex on these Boards?
She has done nothing wrong. She really hasn’t.
The cruelty and commentary she faces is baseless

She lied to billions of people about her in-laws. Seems pretty wrong to me.

but as I’ve said before, Harry is absolutely to blame for the whole shit show.

RonaldMcDonald · 20/04/2022 16:38

Chilledchablis1 · 20/04/2022 16:26

FloraPostePosts · 20/04/2022 16:10
Chilledchablis1
@ RonaldMcDonald
“Although, through choice, she does not use it - her honorific is Her Royal Highness”
no, she and H were instructed not to use HRH ( as was Andrew )
They still remain the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, though, in the same way that Diana remained Princess of Wales after her divorce. She didn’t use HRH either.

I am well aware of that . I was correcting the poster who said that it is Meghan’s choice not to use HRH . It isn’t . She, Harry and Andrew have been told not to .

You know this how, exactly?

Duracellbunnywannabe · 20/04/2022 16:39

SleeplessInEngland · 20/04/2022 12:48

It says a lot about the UK that people can get more angry about Harry than the Andrew.

And yes, you can be annoyed about both but it's clear who gets the most online hate, and it's incredible.

Who has said they are more angry about Harry than Andrew?

I’ve posted on this thread and I’m slightly irritated by Harry but mostly embarrassed for him but I am very angry about Andrew.

motherofcatsandbears · 20/04/2022 16:41

Grandma is getting on in years, better make her sweet so I’m not cut out of the will or disinherited.
Bugger of back to California with your ultra dominant wife.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/04/2022 16:46

Why does this all come back to the Duchess of Sussex on these Boards?

Not all of it, Ronald - at least not for all of us
After all the thread's supposedly about Harry, it's Harry who chose to use the words he did (and at such a time), and Harry who can presumably make his own decisions, so if he's made a bad one I see no reason to automatically blame his wife for that

DrBrennerFan · 20/04/2022 16:46

Spoilt brat I’m sick of them both he’s always feeling sorry for himself she wanted to rule the roost.

ajandjjmum · 20/04/2022 16:46

BoredZelda · 20/04/2022 16:22

He could have visited her quietly without all the accompanying fanfare.

He did. There was no fanfare. Nobody knew until one paragraph reported the next day.

Funny that the fanfare only arose when he and Meghan took a walk in Windsor as a coach load of people drove by for a well publicised church service.

Perfect timing to ensure that news of the 'secret visit' became public. Confirmed, of course, by H & M's people, whilst the RF stayed quiet.

Sorry I'm so sad and frothy. Grin

AryaStarkWolf · 20/04/2022 16:48

Jesus christ the hatred for Harry and Meghan is fucking weird.

Eaumyword · 20/04/2022 16:49

Mumoftwoinprimary · 20/04/2022 12:59

Every family with elderly relatives has a Harry!

They turn up, interfere with everyone’s routines, explain how everyone is doing everything wrong, do don’t help at all in any practical way and then fuck off not to be seen again for months / years whilst telling themselves (and anyone else who will listen) how “supportive” they are.

Very much this! 😂

Chilledchablis1 · 20/04/2022 16:51

@ RonaldMcDonald

“You know this how, exactly?”

with H and M it was part of the Megxit agreement and with A it was when he was forced to step back from public life .

it’s not difficult to find if you Google .

EdithWeston · 20/04/2022 16:55

Chilledchablis1 · 20/04/2022 16:26

FloraPostePosts · 20/04/2022 16:10
Chilledchablis1
@ RonaldMcDonald
“Although, through choice, she does not use it - her honorific is Her Royal Highness”
no, she and H were instructed not to use HRH ( as was Andrew )
They still remain the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, though, in the same way that Diana remained Princess of Wales after her divorce. She didn’t use HRH either.

I am well aware of that . I was correcting the poster who said that it is Meghan’s choice not to use HRH . It isn’t . She, Harry and Andrew have been told not to .

This isn't right. Both the Princess of Wales and the Duchess of York had their HRH removed on divorce

The Duke of York and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have not had it removed (as they are all still family members) but are not using it, apparently by agreeement.

TheKeatingFive · 20/04/2022 16:58

Jesus christ the hatred for Harry and Meghan is fucking weird.

Yup. It really is.

The whole idea of having a monarchy is bizarre. It's weird for them, the public's relationship with them is batshit (all these posters talking like the know them intimately). Harry's caught right in the net of the insanity of it all. They were so right to get out.

Chilledchablis1 · 20/04/2022 17:01

@EdithWeston

You have explained it better ! PP had suggested it was M’s choice not to use HRH and it isn’t. Pretty sure she and H ( and A) would use it if allowed.

Redglitter · 20/04/2022 17:03

He also said he's the Queens confidant & she talks to him about things she doesn't talk to other people about 🤔

Sure she does Harry, you tell yourself that. I'm quite sure NOONE in the RF would confide in him. Not when he runs off at the mouth to the media at every opportunity

AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 20/04/2022 17:04

He's 'bruised your cherry'?

Really? Do you ever think you might need to get a bit of a grip on this? Hating strangers that you've read about in the tabloid press is a bit odd, really.

Dealwithit · 20/04/2022 17:13

It’s him I don’t like - not his wife. His wife made herself, she worked, networked and studied.

she dropped her family because he insisted on it - it was Harry the man child full of rage that her father had spoken to the press.

i think he hook winked her - love bombed her and pleaded about her playing the trauma card. She fell in love and married him. He had millions available to him and therapists available by the bucket load.

then everything she does is wrong - she wears nail varnish it’s the wrong colour etc and she realises she has given up everything for him - the sunshine, her friends, her career - for what every picture splashed across the news, and the highlight of her day is opening a shopping centr e in Liverpool and covering up scandals in the family and keeping the pecking order.

she heads home and tried to get him out and get him doing some work as she’s realised he’s not that bright …..

Lzzyisgod · 20/04/2022 17:13

I'm usually fairly ambivalent about the royals (the situation with Andrew being the exception) and when Harry decided to step back and live a private life i briefly thought "yeah understandable. "

What i find confusing is hes not really done that - the Netflix decision (to me) seems very intrusive for someone seeking a private life. I do wonder whether, having lived an entire life in the public eye, his perception of life outside that was more of a romantic notion amd the reality is vastly different - much like youngsters who crave fame and fortune only to find when they get it that it's not all its cracked up to be.

Soffit · 20/04/2022 17:22

Oh, Harry wont have time to pick and choose the Queen's inner circle. Apparently, he is worried about suffering from "burnout" while WFH at his mansion. It's not easy being a superhero and saving the world as well as being a superdad!😂

Blossomtoes · 20/04/2022 17:24

You should take up writing romantic fiction @Dealwithit. You obviously have natural talent.

Momicrone · 20/04/2022 17:27

'Bruising ones cherry', the phrase is pretty questionable

VeganGod · 20/04/2022 17:28

ancientgran · 20/04/2022 16:28

His issue is with Charles, he isn't a psychiatrist so he can't diagnose what is wrong with Charles or what caused it. Do you seriously think the Queen abused Charles? The fact that Harry thinks everyone should be as emotional as him doesn't mean more reserved people are abusive. He also lied about things in his childhood like never having a bike ride with his father and we've seen the photos.

Anyway whatever happened he said something that would clearly be hurtful to his grandmother so saying he hasn't done anything to her is wrong. He said something quite cruel about a woman in her 90s. Not classy, not loving and not protective.

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You don’t need to be a psychiatrist to know that your relationship with your parents affects you. Charles will not have been immune to that and it often has a knock on effect....until you realise and you choose to try to break the cycle like Harry says he has.

Prince Charles wasn’t openly showed love. There’s plenty to say his childhood was lonely and miserable. It’s documented that he barely saw his parents, the Queen was emotionally distant to him and that his father was a bully. Charles cooperated in the writing of a book that said these things, amongst others, I just don’t remember the details. Is this abuse? I think so. Ignoring your children’s unhappiness, not showing love, letting his father bully him...all very damaging.

Maybe he had no recollection of a bike ride as it didn’t happen often. Maybe he went on bike rides with his father every day and he lied. We don’t know. Not remembering something as a child doesn’t mean he’s lying and if you only did things very rarely, you may forget them.

If the Queen wanted to not have her cold parenting discussed, then she should have been a better, kinder parent. As you say, some people are more emotional than others, you think Harry should accept that, the other side of that is that they have to accept Harry is a man that talks about emotions and mental health and the things that have affected him. The Queen being elderly doesn’t mean that Harry should not mention anything that may impact her. She was younger when she was that mother choosing to be emotionally distant from her child and letting her husband bully him. Should people be excused from things they’ve done wrong just because they’re getting on a bit? I don’t think so.

I’m protective of many people in my life, that’s not the same as me never saying something that may upset one of them if I feel it needs saying. To Harry, he obviously feels that this is important to talk about. I read that he didn’t want to point blame and his concern was in breaking the cycle so that his own children didn’t suffer. Good for him.

Moodycow78 · 20/04/2022 18:09

I don't usually have much of an opinion one way or the other, always felt a bit sorry for Harry really but this takes the piss, a lot of the upset she's had over the last few years come directly back to his behaviour, way to go protector Harry 😳