Oh do piss off, Harry

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/20/prince-harry-says-queen-on-great-form-during-visit?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

The Queen has coped for most of her life without you. I don't think she needs you 'protecting her' now.

I'm usually entire ambivalent to the royals but this has really bruised my cherry!

AIBU?

Why is it ridiculous to name a child after a family member,said child is unlikely,to meet?
Pleanty of people name their children after relatives both dead and alive ,both Charlotte and Lillibet,have Diana in their names ,and they will never meet her either .

The impression I get is that Harry's issue is that he can't seperate being being a member of the royal family from being a member of The Royal Family. By that I mean that he feels hard done by because he feels like his brother his treated differently and that hurts him. He sees his dad and his grandma treating his brother and his child differently to how they treat him. In that respect it's understandable and is the subject of many threads on here.

What he struggles with is that his brother will one day be king and he won't. That's why they're treated differently. He can't seperate William's position as son/brother/grandson from his postion as heir to the throne.

Because they’re living their life how they choose to and the press will report on it, that can’t be helped. Why should they not do things they want to do and talk about things they want to, just because the press will report and twist it. By shutting the fuck up, they wouldn’t be living the life they want to, they’d be letting others dictate their life. Who would do that? Do you tell your friends or your children to refrain from doing things they want to do in case random people decide to talk about them negatively?

Then they can’t have it both ways, can they @VeganGod?

Exactly. There are many posters here who deeply hate Harry simply because he has created a different life for himself. They hate him because he doesn't want to be a Royal, yet also hate him because he is Royal. Above all they hate him for not marrying a white English rose.

It's awful isn't it.

H is so deluded and the chip on his shoulder grows ever bigger.

His very brief responses on the BBC so very different to the oversharing, gushing crap to the US media.

I think it was very poor choice of words and agree it looks staged for Netflix.
At best I think it was either part of their ratings/ money making scheme , or an attempt to still feel important in a royal family sense. This is a bit grotesque considering they left and wanted to make their own money but are still basing their sensation on the RF.

at worst I think it was very dangerously choice of words which implies to the globe that our monarch is weak, incompetent. In the current global situation I don’t think we need her being undermined in this way. Even though we have an elected government it is still important that the monarch is seen to be stable.

Also the suggestion that those around her might not be the right people seriously undermines Charles and William and their integrity. Almost suggests she is going to be overthrown by them if he is not checking in.

Misogynistic undertones whereby a woman who has been a Queen for 70 years needs her male grandson to protect her!! Umm no Harry gross off!

They can do what they like. They’re living their life the way they want to, that’s the best way to do it.

And other people can say he is being stupid and his grandmother has plenty of people around her who love and care for her.

Of course they can. And people can say they don’t like it. 🤷‍♀️

He gave an interview, we heard what he said. Nothing to do with the press twisting anything.

"Exactly. There are many posters here who deeply hate Harry simply because he has created a different life for himself. They hate him because he doesn't want to be a Royal, yet also hate him because he is Royal. Above all they hate him for not marrying a white English rose."

I don't think this is actually true. I think most posters here were right behind Harry and Meghan, and there was plenty of support for their decision to step back from royal life and make a new life for themselves elsewhere.

I think opinions started to turn after the Oprah interview and the untruths therein, the Netflix deal, the life of utter luxury coupled with pious lecturing about climate change, the frankly quite fucking weird choice of name for their second child, the book deal, the whining, and now this pompous comment about his Grandmother than no one can quite believe he made.

I wouldn't describe my feelings for Harry as anywhere near hate, but I have lost the feelings of empathy and understanding I had for him a couple of years ago. I think he has really quite clearly "shown people who he is" and some will insist on not seeing it, for whatever reason.

Yep, I agree. People can not like it, of course.

It’s the making stuff up and telling people they should be quiet about trauma and mental health and that things didn’t happen when he’s said they did etc that I have an issue with.

He gave an interview, we heard what he said. Nothing to do with the press twisting anything.

My comment was replying to someone about the press. The person was saying they shouldn’t do interviews if they didn’t want the press to write about them. I just said they are living their life and shouldn’t stop doing that because of the press.

Nobody’s made anything up @VeganGod. Most of us have enough trauma of our own without having to listen to one of the most privileged people on the planet whining about theirs. That’s what his therapist is for.

This hasn’t overshadowed the games at all. The rest of world is happy. It’s just bitter Little Englanders making a stink about this.

YANBU

Every family has a "Harry" or two, someone who constantly slags off everyone else but can't take the slightest bit of criticism themselves. In my family, everyone tiptoes on eggshells around our "Harry" so as to not upset them. Every time there's news/ an event in the family, the first thing people say is "Oh, how is Harry gonna react do you think?" It is exhausting.

And yes, every family with elderly relatives also has one person who watches and criticises from the sidelines, but never actually pulls their weight/ puts their money where their mouth is to help the situation.

'This hasn’t overshadowed the games at all. The rest of world is happy. It’s just bitter Little Englanders making a stink about this.'

Well that's rather xenophobic isn't it.

It has overshadowed the games. Like his poor me interview during the Africa tour he is using a high profile event to vent his grievances. He makes himself look more foolish everyrime he opens his mouth. Exploiting Diana, exploiting the Queen all for his Netflix $$$. Lovely.

I don't think Prince Harry will end well. He is a sad story waiting for a tragic ending. I would feel sorry for him but he's such a prick, I can't bring myself to.

JingsMahBucket · 21/04/2022 12:13
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“I do think it’s sad that the Invictus Games have been totally overshadowed by the H and M show. Such a worthwhile cause . I wonder how the veterans feel ?
This hasn’t overshadowed the games at all. The rest of world is happy. It’s just bitter Little Englanders making a stink about this”

I am Scottish and stand by my statement that this interview has overshadowed what should be a celebration of bravery and tenacity .

Nobody’s made anything up @VeganGod. Most of us have enough trauma of our own without having to listen to one of the most privileged people on the planet whining about theirs. That’s what his therapist is for.

People are making lots of things up. Just on this thread posters have said Harry has only swooped in for 5 minutes to tell others how to look after the Queen despite not knowing his level of contact over the last 2 years, that Netflix or Meghan told Harry to say the comment about protecting the Queen, that Harry isn’t happy, that Harry feels guilty, the Queen can’t possibly talk to him about things she doesn’t talk to others about, that Meghan lied about her laws, that Harry made Meghan drop her family, that Harry is jealous that William will be King and that Meghan has manipulated and played Harry. All made up, people don’t know these things. I’m sure there is more stuff I’ve missed and I’ve definitely read other stuff people couldn’t possibly know on other threads too.

All this talk of Harry’s discussing trauma being classed as ‘whining’ is quite disturbing too. I’ve only ever heard it being described that way in real life by people who are abusers or have other motives for wanting to shut down any talk of trauma.

People that have been through trauma or are dealing with mental health issues, don’t only get to talk about it to their therapist, I’m not sure why anyone would think that. And again, being rich doesn’t me less likely to listen to someone about things they’ve found difficult. Mental health issues do not discriminate.

*her in laws

People that have been through trauma or are dealing with mental health issues, don’t only get to talk about it to their therapist

no, but they don’t tend to repeatedly talk to the press about it.

No one would give two hoots if he was talking to friends, professionals, whoever. Absolutely no need for him to relay it all publicly to the world.

All this talk of Harry’s discussing trauma being classed as ‘whining’ is quite disturbing too. I’ve only ever heard it being described that way in real life by people who are abusers or have other motives for wanting to shut down any talk of trauma.

Maybe some of us (most of us) have enough real problems of our own and find a self-absorbed, foot-stamping, possibly borderline paranoid (Must save granny from the baddies) incredibly privileged person repeatedly publicly discussing their trauma a little tedious. For his own sake, and that of his children before it weighs on them, he needs to get a grip.

I really don’t see anything wrong with what he said. If William said it, I doubt anyone would take issue with it.
Tbh though, it seems to me that literally anything Harry and Meghan say or do is open to levels of criticism that are just baffling, when compared with William and Kate.