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To update about The Family Sex Show

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 16:36

There are active two threads on this in Feminism but I feel I just have to update here for traffic. Although protests appear to have, for now, stopped the theatre production going ahead, new and highly disturbing material has today appeared on their webpage, clearly aimed at children. It (cheerily and breezily) suggests, among other things, that children search for images of masturbating animals on the internet and then draw what they see. I am not going to Google that term, I really don't want that in my history, but first, can you imagine what children will be exposed to if they search that, and second, this is pure and simple grooming of children into being abused. Masturbating animals? What larks! Lets have an arts and crafts session about it! Next steps: Masturbating with Uncle Jim? Why not? Masturbating Uncle Jim? Of course!

I have now made a complaint to CEOP. Others may wish to as well.

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EddyF · 19/04/2022 17:43

What parent would take their child to this? What is their aim? Who are the founders of the website/company?

Are schools/libraries participating in this? It is so bizarre to the point it can’t really be real?

oakleaffy · 19/04/2022 17:43

[quote theDudesmummy]@oakleaffy

They are trying to groom children to accept sexual abuse, yes, that the exact point of the whole thing.[/quote]
It’s really alarming.
No wonder there are so many “ Confused” young people about.
Let kids be kids-
They need to be taught that it’s ok to say NO if any adult makes them feel uncomfortable.
Why does “ Sex education “ need to even be like this??

Contraception, the risks of online porn , saying no, respect, this needs teaching, not looking up masturbating animals or being taught by men in frocks.

oakleaffy · 19/04/2022 17:46

@CremeEggsForBreakfast

What about the question "what part of your body feels nicest to touch?" question sandwiched between "what things do you do to look after yourself" and "how can you cheer up someone who is sad?" Also asks if you make enough time for pleasure. Creepy change of language there....

The bodies page also asks if you'd like to make a playdoh vulva.

Oh my word. “What part of your body feels nicest to touch?”

I can almost hear that on the breathy quivery tone of my male abuser as a child.

Revolting.

Maybebabyno2 · 19/04/2022 17:49

I can almost hear that on the breathy quivery tone of my male abuser as a child

Jesus christ! Envy (not envy)

FourTeaFallOut · 19/04/2022 17:49

Jesus, when pie meets panto. FFS.

oakleaffy · 19/04/2022 17:51

Well thank goodness it has been cancelled.
Absolutely not suitable for children.
Here is a still from their “ Show” ( From BBC)

To update about The Family Sex Show
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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 17:52

It is not just about saying no if you feel "uncomfortable" (although that is the NSPCC's line as well, which is very wrong of them). Many survivors did not feel "uncomfortable" at the time of the abuse or even recogise it as abuse at the time (for example a child reading this this shocking webpage may well think something that is fun or feels "nice" is not abuse. Drawing a penis! Sucking a penis! Don't feel uncomfortable! It's a fun thing to do/other people do it/it shows how much Uncle Jim loves you/you need to show how much you love Uncle Jim/you'll get a sweetie/it shows you are growing up and are a big boy....). IT STILL IS ABUSE.

This is placing the onus on the child. The responsibility to prevent abuse lies with the adults not the child.

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MoltenLasagne · 19/04/2022 17:53

Everyone’s different and will have different things that feel nice to touch for them! If one day, you don’t want to be touched in a particular way, that’s absolutely okay. You decide what feels good for you.

Teaching children anything's ok if it feels nice. It segues straight into masturbation and googling masturbating animals, just in case you'd missed the fact this is a groomer's charter.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/04/2022 17:53

Here is a screenshot from their page (via Twitter) ...

Rest assured they'll claim that of course it would all be toned down for the children ... right up until their opportunity came, if enough had been foolish enough to accept it

Sadly I can imagine the "turgid atmosphere" while this was being planned only too well, and having had to pull it, going for broke on the website was all too predictable

As said, though, they've actually done everyone a service through exposing themselves (and not in the way they originally intended)

IHateCoronavirus · 19/04/2022 17:55

Bloody hell this is disturbing Angry

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 17:56

Well, yes, one would hope that after the masturbating animals etc a few people who were previously for giving the benefit of the doubt to the organisation on the grounds of it being creative/educational/freedom of expression might think again.

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 17:57

I hope a journalist picks up the latest developments...

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pastaandpesto · 19/04/2022 17:57

@theDudesmummy

It is not just about saying no if you feel "uncomfortable" (although that is the NSPCC's line as well, which is very wrong of them). Many survivors did not feel "uncomfortable" at the time of the abuse or even recogise it as abuse at the time (for example a child reading this this shocking webpage may well think something that is fun or feels "nice" is not abuse. Drawing a penis! Sucking a penis! Don't feel uncomfortable! It's a fun thing to do/other people do it/it shows how much Uncle Jim loves you/you need to show how much you love Uncle Jim/you'll get a sweetie/it shows you are growing up and are a big boy....). IT STILL IS ABUSE.

This is placing the onus on the child. The responsibility to prevent abuse lies with the adults not the child.

All of this.

Children need absolutely black and while messaging about what is and isn't appropriate adult behaviour, irrespective of whether it feels OK at the time.

Helleofabore · 19/04/2022 17:58

I am sure that we had some posters who said they were going to take their children to this show on other threads? I am genuinely interested in them answering my question.

Who exactly benefits from lowering children's boundaries in this way?

Asking questions like:

look up masturbating animals
where do you like to be touched
would you like to make a playdoh vulva.....

Is this genuinely not ringing any alarm bells? At all?

Dinosauria · 19/04/2022 17:59

Where do I find love has no age ?

I have contacted my MP

Rococococo · 19/04/2022 17:59

Everyone’s different and will have different things that feel nice to touch for them! If one day, you don’t want to be touched in a particular way, that’s absolutely okay. You decide what feels good for you.

Surely the normal safeguarding message for children is that nobody other than a doctor should ever touch them on an area that would be covered up by a swimsuit/swimming trunks? Whether or not it ‘feels good’ doesn’t even come into it.

Mouldyfeet · 19/04/2022 18:00

This is utterly disgusting and I'm amazed it has got as far as it has.

I clicked on the CEOP link but wasn't exactly sure what to put as it asks about reporting a specific child. Can anyone help with what to put please?

Dinosauria · 19/04/2022 18:01

Anyone else struggling to access the page?

Popcornriver · 19/04/2022 18:01

I'd also be interested in adding my name to a petition. Not that we should have to! How in the actual fuck aren't the police involved? Playdoh genitals, inappropriate questions obviously aimed at young children with how they're worded and suggesting that Google search! What?! Can you imagine the results? This isn't sex education, it's sinister and obviously aimed at very young children. Any parent willing to expose a child to this shit shouldn't be a parent. Whoever is behind it should be investigated. Can't believe the response to the outrage is to call society prudish. Ffs!

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 18:01

I find in fact that the people who did not feel "uncomfortable" at the time of the abuse (especially boys who experienced physical pleasure and arousal, as of course they often do) are often the ones left more disturbed and distressed by the experience in later life. Telling children that something is OK because it "feels" OK is a dangerous dangerous message, and oh so easily exploited by the abusers.

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oakleaffy · 19/04/2022 18:02

@theDudesmummy

We all know who benefits from all of this. They now call themselves "MAPs" and claim to be a vulnerable minority group, but we know them...
I have heard that these “MAP”s are seeking inclusion in the LGBQT “Rainbow”. To spare someone googling the acronym, it stands for “Minor Attracted Persons”

I saw a FB post about someone who was concerned about the LGB+ being used as a jolly rainbow of inclusivity for these abusers.

toastfiend · 19/04/2022 18:04

For those who made reports to the CEOP, can I ask how you did so?

I tried, but it asks for details of age, sex, school etc. of the child and I obviously don't have those because I'm not worried about a specific child, just any who might be exposed to this. I see it's continuing in Bath for "an invited audience", wtf does that even mean...?

garlicandsapphires · 19/04/2022 18:07

Placemarking.
So glad it’s been cancelled!

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 18:07

I put "every child everywhere", don't know what they will make of that but it is true. For age I put 5 because you had to put something and the show clearly said it was aimed at children from 5.

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pastaandpesto · 19/04/2022 18:08

@Dinosauria

Anyone else struggling to access the page?
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