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To think that poor Ronnie Hinch deserves some privacy

235 replies

notfairnot · 19/04/2022 07:22

And the details of his life and e.g. speech delay not broadcast to his mothers 4.4 million followers (and whoever else wants to see as it's an open page)

Imagine having your life broadcast like that in such detail with no consent or consideration of his future Sad

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Fulmine · 19/04/2022 08:15

I wouldn't log on to her videos if you paid me.

Thesearmsofmine · 19/04/2022 08:16

I agree, there really needs to be some kind of regulation in this area because there are children out there with zero privacy. The Ingham family are another example, currently travelling around with their 5 children in a van, their baby perched on a makeshift seat.

ComDummings · 19/04/2022 08:16

I think it’s pretty sick when influencers use their children to make money.

ENoeuf · 19/04/2022 08:21

It would be good to have some kind of regulation around social media and children - I feel uncomfortable about a child who is often featured as a survivor of abuse and feel he didn’t choose to be a campaigner. Maybe privacy laws could be tightened?

ColdSeptember · 19/04/2022 08:21

I actually think that influencers (people desperate to be celebrities but with no actual talent other than marketing themselves) should be banned from monetising their children. The children get no say and can't make an informed decision about whether or not to consent to it.

Katie Price is another - Harvey cannot consent so the default should be that he is not involved in her public social media. It's grim.

carefullycourageous · 19/04/2022 08:23

It is their decision to make, but it should not be.

I agree with the OP that parents breaching their child's right to privacy are in the wrong.

AFS1 · 19/04/2022 08:24

@MsTSwift

My teen Dd got a book out of the library the other day about a teen whose parents were doing this to her and how she fought back.

Surely the days of this being acceptable are numbered? These children cannot consent to their private information and pictures being smeared all over the internet. It’s actually outrageous if you give it a moment’s consideration.

Completely off topic, but what’s the name of the book? It sounds like one my DD might enjoy reading!
Herejustforthisone · 19/04/2022 08:28

@MarianosOnHisWay

All the kids of “influencers” do, there should be tighter regulations on this. Louise Pentland’s daughter Darcey pretty much “works” for her mum, advertising products and posing for photos. One of the worst examples is the Saccone-Jolys. There are loads more too.
Christ. I don’t follow any of them but I just had a look at the Saccone woman. She is wringing just about every available bit of saleability from her children.

Did she have the big house and cars before or is that all from ‘influencing’? If it’s wasn’t from that not a real job, then I despair. I truly despair.

GoFishandChips · 19/04/2022 08:30

I used to follow her until she posted a picture of him on the toilet, which was subsequently shared by the company who made the loo seat or something. The poor child looked so bewildered, imagine being a teen and knowing your mum shared a picture of you on the toilet to boost her engagement.

SleepingStandingUp · 19/04/2022 08:32

Why pick on her alone? Surely that's what they all do? And the family with 22 kids, Katie Price Kerry Katona before them. Because people like you follow and talk about it. All the extra clicks today from people wanting a look.

bumblingbovine49 · 19/04/2022 08:33

Well I agree in principle that children should not be monetised but if the child has health problems or other difficulties such as Katie Price's son , that money may well be used to improve that family's life considerably .

I dread to think how much harder Harvey and his family's life would be without enough money to pay for help with carers and respite etc. You only need to read some of the desperate posts on here from parents with severely disabled children and no support to see how hard that is. Whilst of course money won't make the problem go away, it can make it slightly more bearable by buying support and in some.cases can pay for treatments not available otherwise.

So for me it is more complicated than ' parading a child with difficulties in public = shit parent'. I do understand the sentiment
in principle but I can't see that it is as black and white in every case as is being made out by the majority on this thread

Ponoka7 · 19/04/2022 08:33

@Yellownightmare
"If you know who Ronnie Hinch is then you're part of the problem."

I don't watch much television, but I can often answer the questions on the Chase because I read the covers of magazines in Lidl etc. That's how I know who Ronnie Hinch is.

@ColdSeptember, I don't know how old you are, but Katie originally started putting Harvey in front of the cameras and speaking about him because she decided to not fight the press, but control what's written. It's just grown since then, but then so has the cost of his needs.

nitsandwormsdodger · 19/04/2022 08:35

What about all the parents who will be supported and encouraged by this? I am

YorkshireTerri · 19/04/2022 08:35

If I knew who he(or she) were, I may have an opinion

sweeneytoddsrazor · 19/04/2022 08:37

It is easy to avoid these influencers. I have heard of Mrs Hinch but none of the others. I don't think I could name an influencer other than Hinch let alone recognise one. I use SM but I follow things/people I am interested in so mainly cooking and sports and that is generally people who are already well known and are actually good at what they do. Influncers exist because people follow them so the easiest way to stop them is to stop following them.

MsTSwift · 19/04/2022 08:37

The book is Girl (in real life) my Tamsin Winter read in one sitting by my 13 year old.

Maybe these “influencers” should read it and realise they are the now the new baddies in the world of teens!

A580Hojas · 19/04/2022 08:38

@Traumdeuter

Best way around it is to not watch or follow…
This is very stupid. People can and do have a negative opinion on things they don't participate in, or consume, or condone.

I'm pretty sure most anti porn campaigners don't sit down to watch endless hours of porn for fun.

JudgeRindersMinder · 19/04/2022 08:40

@GoFishandChips

I used to follow her until she posted a picture of him on the toilet, which was subsequently shared by the company who made the loo seat or something. The poor child looked so bewildered, imagine being a teen and knowing your mum shared a picture of you on the toilet to boost her engagement.
Same. I initially followed her through morbid curiosity as she posted such utter bollocks. She’s previously lied about his development for engagement and made him out to be “naughty” when he’s just a kid probably trying to make sense of the world. (Not that his development is any of my business, but she’s putting it out there) I’ve just had a look at her Instagram for the first time in a long time and she’s “styled a shelf”. What the actual fuck😂😂. I can’t believe people are so gullible
FishFingerSandwiches4Tea · 19/04/2022 08:40

@ENoeuf

It would be good to have some kind of regulation around social media and children - I feel uncomfortable about a child who is often featured as a survivor of abuse and feel he didn’t choose to be a campaigner. Maybe privacy laws could be tightened?
I think I know who you mean, and I don't agree with it either. I thought there were rules about adopted/'looked after' children having higher privacy rights too so I'm not sure how it's 'allowed'. It feels as if the terrible early start he had is his defining feature - he should be allowed (as much as is possible) to leave that behind him and become his own person.
A580Hojas · 19/04/2022 08:41

Yanbu OP. It is child exploitation - from Mrs H and all the other influencers who make their children so much a part of the parent's online lives.

I've been droning on about this for years.

Nyfluff · 19/04/2022 08:41

Encouraged by invading children's privacy for money, or by the majority acknowledgment for how sick it is?

berksandbeyond · 19/04/2022 08:42

I agree but Hinch would sell a picture of her own shite if she thought it would make her enough money. More fool anyone who still follows her! If she’d spent less time shining her sink and more time actually talking (instead of squealing) at her children then she might not be in this position

MyKingdomforaNameChange · 19/04/2022 08:43

@Yellownightmare

If you know who Ronnie Hinch is then you're part of the problem.
I'm guessing from this thread that he's that cleaning woman's son. I don't follow her or ever look at anything she posts because I have no interest in her. I only know her name because she's talked about on here. Knowing (guessing) that this thread is about her son doesn't make me part of the problem thank you.
Samesame89 · 19/04/2022 08:44

I love these threads when it's just full of people declaring "I don't know who these people are".

Good for you.

If you don't know who they are and you want to know - Google them.

If you don't know who they are and you don't want to know - no need to comment on this thread then.

lapasion · 19/04/2022 08:45

It’s awful. I used to work in an industry where we’d hire kids for photoshoots and videos. There would be strict regulations about working hours, conditions, always having a chaperone etc. But I didn’t mind as it’s so important to protect children who are doing any sort of creative work. Just look at the child stars of the 80s and 90s. People were horrified about how they were exploited and laws put in place to stop it happening again. But where is that oversight for YouTube videos or blogs?

I agree that this thread will probably be deleted as MN seems to dislike people making valid criticisms of influencers or bloggers. You’ll probably be counted among the ‘vile trolls’ the media likes to talk about for even questioning her parenting.