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To think that poor Ronnie Hinch deserves some privacy

235 replies

notfairnot · 19/04/2022 07:22

And the details of his life and e.g. speech delay not broadcast to his mothers 4.4 million followers (and whoever else wants to see as it's an open page)

Imagine having your life broadcast like that in such detail with no consent or consideration of his future Sad

OP posts:
Keefusandbetina · 19/04/2022 15:13

@MrsKC121 I don’t understand how you can’t see the difference between Mrs Hinch’s son on a loo seat & a random kid in a pampers ad. That random kid in an ad - do we know his/her name? Where they live? What they do each day, where they go to nursery, who their grandparents are? No - they’re totally unrecognisable to anyone else except their friends & family. The Hinch kid, however, is regularly exposed to thousands & thousands of randoms who know all about him - how can you not see the difference?? Same with people having their kids as their profile pics on Facebook - I have a closed profile with 200-odd friends WHO I KNOW. There is no comparison- I can’t see how you can say it’s the same thing?! It really really isn’t.

NobleYeats1 · 19/04/2022 15:45

@Keefusandbetina unfortunately given her posts it seems like @MrsKC121 is just someone who likes mrs hinch therefore can’t see logically how she’s exploiting her children. It’s irrational.

And yes the whole point is by posting pictures publicly on the internet it becomes mine and everyone else’s business. Luckily for her I just want Instagram to sanction this kind of behaviour. There will be others who download the photos, photoshop them, circulate them to dangerous people with bad intentions and worse.

I thought we had moved on from ‘it’s none of your business’ when it comes to safeguarding children!

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 15:46

[quote Keefusandbetina]@MrsKC121 I don’t understand how you can’t see the difference between Mrs Hinch’s son on a loo seat & a random kid in a pampers ad. That random kid in an ad - do we know his/her name? Where they live? What they do each day, where they go to nursery, who their grandparents are? No - they’re totally unrecognisable to anyone else except their friends & family. The Hinch kid, however, is regularly exposed to thousands & thousands of randoms who know all about him - how can you not see the difference?? Same with people having their kids as their profile pics on Facebook - I have a closed profile with 200-odd friends WHO I KNOW. There is no comparison- I can’t see how you can say it’s the same thing?! It really really isn’t.[/quote]
Well your point is invalid because no, I don’t know her address and I don’t know where he goes to nursery. She doesn’t publicly state any of that info

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 15:48

[quote NobleYeats1]**@Keefusandbetina* unfortunately given her posts it seems like @MrsKC121* is just someone who likes mrs hinch therefore can’t see logically how she’s exploiting her children. It’s irrational.

And yes the whole point is by posting pictures publicly on the internet it becomes mine and everyone else’s business. Luckily for her I just want Instagram to sanction this kind of behaviour. There will be others who download the photos, photoshop them, circulate them to dangerous people with bad intentions and worse.

I thought we had moved on from ‘it’s none of your business’ when it comes to safeguarding children![/quote]
Wrong, you CHOOSE for it to be your business, no one is asking you to. And safeguarding? You’re making out like her children are abused, far from it. And no I’m not some Mrs Hinch mega fan I’m just sick to death of people like you who refuse to see another side of the “opinion”

NobleYeats1 · 19/04/2022 15:52

@MrsKC121 you are ignoring the very real access paedophiles have to all these pictures of children. This is why it’s a safeguarding issue. I wish the internet was a lovely safe space but it’s not.

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 16:02

[quote NobleYeats1]@MrsKC121 you are ignoring the very real access paedophiles have to all these pictures of children. This is why it’s a safeguarding issue. I wish the internet was a lovely safe space but it’s not.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring that and unfortunately, these monsters exist whether there’s social media or not. However, some of the comments on her towards Mrs Hinch and other influencers is just vile. Her children are not being abused or, are in any danger yet there’s morons out there that see nothing wrong in wasting social services time and will report influencers for the most ridiculous things. Wasting time and taking attention away from children who legitimately need intervention. It just seems like there’s a horrid little bandwagon going on here with a lot of people jumping on it under the guise of opinion and safeguarding.

Silverswirl · 19/04/2022 16:25

[quote MrsKC121]@Hertsgirl10 seems like we’re the only ones with a brain cell in here[/quote]
Only ones who don’t give a shiny shit about other kids welfare and exploitation maybe. (But insist you do)

Keefusandbetina · 19/04/2022 16:28

I didn’t say her kid/s were being abused - I didn’t once mention abuse - so please don’t twist what I wrote.
And just because YOU don’t know her address, there will be loads of other people who have worked it out (& I don’t just mean Mrs Hinch, there are other influencers out there who haven’t been very clever at hiding where they live) - it doesn’t take a genius for someone to work out where someone lives from the things they say & post. This is what the rest of us have an issue with - it’s just not safe to put kids who have no say into what is potentially a vulnerable position, just for the sake of a free hoover/bottle of bleach/a pair of dungarees that cost £400/whatever
You seem very angry & defensive about the whole thing - are you Mrs Hinch?

NerrSnerr · 19/04/2022 16:28

Naming him on here adds to the stuff that can be Googled about him (and in a few years he could google himself and come across this thread and everything said about his mum).

I only knew his name from the thread as I don't follow his mum on any pages so I knew nothing about him before you started this. You could also know nothing about him if you don't follow.

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 16:32

@Keefusandbetina

I didn’t say her kid/s were being abused - I didn’t once mention abuse - so please don’t twist what I wrote. And just because YOU don’t know her address, there will be loads of other people who have worked it out (& I don’t just mean Mrs Hinch, there are other influencers out there who haven’t been very clever at hiding where they live) - it doesn’t take a genius for someone to work out where someone lives from the things they say & post. This is what the rest of us have an issue with - it’s just not safe to put kids who have no say into what is potentially a vulnerable position, just for the sake of a free hoover/bottle of bleach/a pair of dungarees that cost £400/whatever You seem very angry & defensive about the whole thing - are you Mrs Hinch?
Oh there it is. Your whole argument just failed miserably with your parting question. So I have an opinion against yours that automatically makes me Mrs Hinch? In the bin for you. I can’t argue with stupid people like yourself. You couldn’t give a fuck about her kids, you just want the opportunity to jump on a bandwagon
Dixiechickonhols · 19/04/2022 16:52

The stage/tv licensed chaperone rules are very strict. I used to be one to help with dancing shows - children could only perform so many hours, needed so many breaks, I had to do a safeguarding course. Money has to be invested - I knew a child who was in tv advents and he had special account that couldn’t be touched. Social media child performance is unregulated. Influencers could be working children for hours a day, no days off, pocketing all cash. It must be a terrible pressure on child to conform - if they are 10 and would rather not but know all family income is from online work.
The sharing of diagnosis, school issues, medical issues will definitely have repercussions for some particularly if they have unusual name or child of influencers with larger following.

Samesame89 · 19/04/2022 16:53

If you're all worried about child safety and children becoming "public property" then why are you discussing a 2 year old boy who you've never met on a public website.

My boy has a speech delay and I've found her stories about it very interesting and reassuring.

If you're worried about child safety go volunteer at the NSPCC for a few horus every week rather than spending it dissecting a mum trying to do the best for her boys. Out of all the kids in the country to worry about..I'm not sure he's on top of the list tbh

And some of you do sound a bit jealous and bitter if I'm honest

Silverswirl · 19/04/2022 18:19

@Samesame89

If you're all worried about child safety and children becoming "public property" then why are you discussing a 2 year old boy who you've never met on a public website.

My boy has a speech delay and I've found her stories about it very interesting and reassuring.

If you're worried about child safety go volunteer at the NSPCC for a few horus every week rather than spending it dissecting a mum trying to do the best for her boys. Out of all the kids in the country to worry about..I'm not sure he's on top of the list tbh

And some of you do sound a bit jealous and bitter if I'm honest

Of course there are worse off kids. Why do we always have to sink to ‘there is someone worse’ That doesn’t get away from the child being used for content and to MAKE MONEY. If he is making money he is being exploited. No, it’s not the same as being horribly abused but it’s still not ok. No one should be looking the other way. This should NOT be socially acceptable and anyone earning money off their child like this should be ashamed. I think we would all agree It’s shitty parenting to expose your child to danger. You are meant to protect them from harm as much as you possibly can as a parent. Putting them and their whole lives on Instagram is putting them in danger. There are freaks and weirdos who will stalk and have intent to harm and kill. They can easily find you and there is more chance of this happening when you have a large following and regularly put yourself in the public eye. Fine if it’s just you. Do what you want. Be at risk of a stalker or online abuse. However when you have a child you do NOT do this. Your personal aims to make content and make money from that content should NOT involve your children. It really is black and white and anyone making excuses for this crap and cruel parenting needs to really think long and hard about why they agree with it.
Fuckedoffisanunderstatement · 19/04/2022 18:22

Understand what you say about earning money off your child and invasion of privacy etc but it keeps his mum and dad out of 9-5 job and away from the home 5 days a week. Bit of a balancing act there that the parents have taken this decision to use it to be present parents rather than trying to exploit

MarianosOnHisWay · 19/04/2022 18:43

@Fuckedoffisanunderstatement

Understand what you say about earning money off your child and invasion of privacy etc but it keeps his mum and dad out of 9-5 job and away from the home 5 days a week. Bit of a balancing act there that the parents have taken this decision to use it to be present parents rather than trying to exploit
But they’re not very “present for their kids” if all their interactions are through a phone screen.
Fuckedoffisanunderstatement · 19/04/2022 18:57

I like to think they take a few pictures and send onto marketing team to edit and come up with the creative.

Just trying to see how it can be positive.

No I'm not Mrs Hinch or any other influencer.

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 19:07

She made her money BEFORE she had kids 🤦🏼‍♀️ No one can win here. I remember that people were trying to guess if Ronnie had a speech delay and were up in arms that she wasn’t sharing it so she would be more relatable. She then shares that he has a speech delay and those same people are now saying that she should keep it private. It’s ridiculous

Silverswirl · 19/04/2022 20:18

@MrsKC121

She made her money BEFORE she had kids 🤦🏼‍♀️ No one can win here. I remember that people were trying to guess if Ronnie had a speech delay and were up in arms that she wasn’t sharing it so she would be more relatable. She then shares that he has a speech delay and those same people are now saying that she should keep it private. It’s ridiculous
No one should have known Ronnie or been able to have any clue wether he may or may not have a speech delay. If lots general random strangers from the internet are guessing your child has a speech delay, you have already shared too much. That’s part of the point we are all trying to make but it keeps going over your head.
simplesooze · 19/04/2022 20:41

I find it very unnerving

Social media is horrible for young kids. I don't think its healthy and I think responsible for a lot of problems in teenagers today

It was hard enough in the 90s when we didn't have the internet to worry about

MrsKC121 · 19/04/2022 20:50

@Silverswirl it’s not gone over my head at all. I respect your opinion I just disagree with it

elephantmarchingin · 19/04/2022 20:51

But what is she gaining by speaking about his delay? She's not pushing products, she's not getting money from it. All she's doing is helping other parents who are also in the same position.

PansyPetunia · 19/04/2022 20:53

Kerry Conway is currently filming her kids in swimsuits and putting it all out there

Vile

User48751490 · 19/04/2022 20:55

I just can't stand the sinister side to all of these social media accounts. Not naming any in my post as that just adds to it being searchable.

Probably best not mentioning names OP as you just keep bringing attention to the family.

The one I can't stand is American and features on a social media channel. There is now lots of merchandise and his siblings are in on the action too. All pushed by the parents. They have grown up with a camera in their faces not knowing any difference.

simplesooze · 19/04/2022 20:59

There's an influencer who lives near me. Always posting about her kids. Every day of their lives documented

I know where she lives, which school her kids attend, every room of her house. Where they hang out, where they work etc

She gets A LOT of abuse and trolling from random nutters

As soon as they go on holiday thousands of people will know their house is empty

switswoo81 · 19/04/2022 21:19

Same here @simplesooze and I recognized the child before the mother when I saw them in a shopping centre one day .
The information I had on that child , class, teddy's name, ballet classes favourite food etc would be dangerous in the wrong hands.
This is child endangerment simple as .
A child has a right to privacy.