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AIBU?

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Asking someone to move seats on a flight? Aibu ?

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wearejustfriends · 18/04/2022 14:31

Last week I was travelling to Gran Canaria with TUI.
I had booked mine and boyfriends seats when we booked and paid £22 for both.
I had the window and he had the middle.

A lady sat on the end and her daughter was in front.
She asked could they have our two seats and we have hers /daughters or my boyfriend switch with her daughter.
I politely said no.
Which she wasn't happy about.
We got "what difference does it make"
"Your adults,my daughter is sacred of flying and is a minor"

Anyway we wouldn't move.

Was I in the wrong ?
Surely if she was that bothered she could have paid like us.

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Moviemusic1984 · 08/09/2022 20:39

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billysmallnuts · 08/09/2022 20:41

@Moviemusic1984 Yay a mansplainer.

Thanks for putting us all right 👍

Scianel · 08/09/2022 20:43

I hate to break it to you but you're far from the only parent or for that matter man on here.
You clearly feel like you're gifting the silly mummies here with your brilliant masculine insight, but seriously, no-one asked.

whumpthereitis · 08/09/2022 20:55

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Are you sure about it being interesting though? Really, really sure?

I know we’re women and shit, but our feeble tiny minds can indeed imagine where you’re coming from. And, shockingly, disagree with you.

You go ahead and be ‘compassionate’ all you like dude, no one’s stopping you.

whumpthereitis · 08/09/2022 21:00

. You should be criticizing the op for sounding like a b word for being apathetic towards a child, I can understand being frustrated with the mother, but the child, the child was innocent in the situation,

‘The b word’ 😂🥴

Love the moralizing that no one’s inclined to give a shit about. It’s giving peak r/niceguys

giveovernate · 08/09/2022 21:03

@Moviemusic1984 what's that then? You seem to be unable to read the difference between over and only? What do you think that is?

rainbowmilk · 08/09/2022 22:40

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Saying a woman is acting like a b**ch is deeply misogynistic, and I lost any interest in your “interesting” and “different” point of view (that has already been raised several times on this thread because it’s hardly radical) at the point where you felt the need to say it.

Moviemusic1984 · 08/09/2022 23:54

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rainbowmilk · 09/09/2022 01:09

Additionally, it is not misogynistic to call a woman the b word, I heard several women call each other that all the time

Yes, that’s also misogynistic. When women do it to one another it’s called internalised misogyny. It doesn’t mean it’s suddenly ok or not sexist for men to do it. I literally can’t believe I’m having to explain this to someone.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/09/2022 03:30

You were right not to move @wearejustfriends

you wanted to sit together. You paid for this

yes people say would have been nice to move but Why should you

you wanted to sit by bf

uou paid for this to happen

too many cheeky fuckers about

iBrows · 09/09/2022 08:36

Moviemusic1984 · 08/09/2022 16:45

"Commenting on an old mumsnet thread" I can comment on whatever I wish. Several old threads in different forum sites have new replies, why is this one any different.

"Randomly announcing that you are a childless man and then speaking on behalf of a little girl" sorry I was advocating for a child, or not. I was just stating that since I am new, and since this is majorly a site for mothers and parents. I wanted to give my stance that is all. I was not trying to rub anything in, I was not trying to better myself to anyone here, but I will say this, since many of the mothers have degraded me all because I said that, when I have children someday I will be proud to call myself a father and not ever a mother. You should be criticizing the op for sounding like a b word for being apathetic towards a child, I can understand being frustrated with the mother, but the child, the child was innocent in the situation, and since the op stated herself that she too gets frightened when planes take off she should have understood how the child felt, but I guess not everyone can show compassion nowadays, not even to a defenseless thing like a child.

Can you answer my question about you telling OP she shouldn’t have moved but should have “provided comfort”? What do you mean?

You have completely failed to read the room and have come across very strangely.

Also, I would never refer to someone as a bitch, especially not the OP who did nothing wrong. This clearly isn’t the forum for you as most of us are women and you’re using sexist terms like that!

Moviemusic1984 · 09/09/2022 16:10

iBrows · 09/09/2022 08:36

Can you answer my question about you telling OP she shouldn’t have moved but should have “provided comfort”? What do you mean?

You have completely failed to read the room and have come across very strangely.

Also, I would never refer to someone as a bitch, especially not the OP who did nothing wrong. This clearly isn’t the forum for you as most of us are women and you’re using sexist terms like that!

I did not ever say that the original poster was in the wrong for how she treated the mother, but she could have been a slightly more compassionate towards the child. Since the child is only ten years old, and since the poster said herself that she gets nervous when planes take off. In that instance, she should have known where the child was coming from, but to be fair, I think what the mother did was in fact a ploy just for sitting next to her daughter. If the child; however, was in fact distressed, the woman and her boyfriend could have been at least supportive (for the sake of the child) if they were not. If I were in her situation, I would probably not move either or expect my girlfriend to, or anyone I fly with, but I would at least show some compassion towards a defenseless child. That is all I am trying to say.

I am well aware that this site is mostly for mothers and women, and for that reason, I was reluctant to post on this site. Unfortunately, though, the initial post was not posted on a broader site. I did not join this site to be a part of this group, in all honesty, but to respond to the post. I apologize for my vulgar behavior, and for using the "b" word, although it can apply to either gender. I am in support of equality with gender, race, religion, age, so on, believe it or not, it is true, and before I was attacked by several mothers, I was in entire support of parents, mothers and fathers alike, and those who do not bear children, but take care of them or want them someday. I cannot force any of you to think well of me, but do realize you are barking up the wrong tree, please be wary of whose toes you step on.

whumpthereitis · 09/09/2022 16:42

Moviemusic1984 · 09/09/2022 16:10

I did not ever say that the original poster was in the wrong for how she treated the mother, but she could have been a slightly more compassionate towards the child. Since the child is only ten years old, and since the poster said herself that she gets nervous when planes take off. In that instance, she should have known where the child was coming from, but to be fair, I think what the mother did was in fact a ploy just for sitting next to her daughter. If the child; however, was in fact distressed, the woman and her boyfriend could have been at least supportive (for the sake of the child) if they were not. If I were in her situation, I would probably not move either or expect my girlfriend to, or anyone I fly with, but I would at least show some compassion towards a defenseless child. That is all I am trying to say.

I am well aware that this site is mostly for mothers and women, and for that reason, I was reluctant to post on this site. Unfortunately, though, the initial post was not posted on a broader site. I did not join this site to be a part of this group, in all honesty, but to respond to the post. I apologize for my vulgar behavior, and for using the "b" word, although it can apply to either gender. I am in support of equality with gender, race, religion, age, so on, believe it or not, it is true, and before I was attacked by several mothers, I was in entire support of parents, mothers and fathers alike, and those who do not bear children, but take care of them or want them someday. I cannot force any of you to think well of me, but do realize you are barking up the wrong tree, please be wary of whose toes you step on.

‘Be wary of whose toes you step on’? You mean yours? Lol, okay twitter fingers. Not sure what you think you’re going to do beyond continuing to embarrass yourself.

whumpthereitis · 09/09/2022 16:45

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Not too worried about you typing ‘bitch’, but at least fucking type it. ‘The b word’ 🥴

Anyway, cool story.

JustLyra · 09/09/2022 16:50

I cannot force any of you to think well of me, but do realize you are barking up the wrong tree, please be wary of whose toes you step on.

Be wary of whose toes you step on? Are you actively trying to make yourself look worse and worse or is that just your natural manner?

Moviemusic1984 · 09/09/2022 16:50

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rainbowmilk · 09/09/2022 17:14

You were “attacked” for announcing that you were a man before giving your opinion, as if being a man conferred some kind of special importance or value on that opinion. That’s what got everyone’s backs up. Plenty of men (childless or not) post here and don’t get that reaction, because they don’t announce it as if it makes them special.

The b word may be used for either sex but when used towards men, the insinuation is that they’re behaving in a way that is associated with the feminine and therefore beneath them. It isn’t a neutral slur just because it’s used against both sexes - the reason it’s used against men is because it’s a slur against women. I realise that you don’t actually care about this because you respect your wife and your mother and therefore can’t be sexist, but you are, in fact, sexist when you use that word.

Pixiedust1234 · 09/09/2022 17:14

but because I am a man and not even a father (yet anyway), I was attacked
No. There are many men here, as there are many people without children. That is NOT the reason posters are responding to you.

I cannot force any of you to think well of me, but do realize you are barking up the wrong tree, please be wary of whose toes you step on.
Is that a threat?

You should be criticizing the op for sounding like a b word for being apathetic towards a child,
No. The mother was in the wrong. There is no need to call the OP anything especially not "bitch".

Pixiedust1234 · 09/09/2022 17:18

Stupid site refreshed and posted before I was ready.

Funny how a majority of women came on here to attack me yet the original poster has said nothing to me regarding her points
OP might not have notifications set, more to the point it was an old thread.

Funny how a majority of women came on here to attack me yet the original poster has said nothing to me regarding her points on the entire plane incident, and if some here are in fact men (and) fathers, I am sure they will agree with me.
Wow, just wow.

New here, but I am a man I want to point out.
Says it all really.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/09/2022 17:20

Oooh lookitat! A mansplaining misogynist.

Sure we haven't seen many of those around here before ...

whumpthereitis · 09/09/2022 17:21

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What fight? It’s a thread on mumsnet dude, it’s not that serious.

I’m not too worried about embarrassing myself, as long as I’m not doing so by making vague threats about being wary about stepping on toes (genuinely though, what do you think you’re gonna do, exactly? @ someone with the ‘b word’?).

FratersDadIsABeeGee · 09/09/2022 17:45

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Wrong. I'm a man and I couldn't disagree with you more, what with me being a considerate human with healthy boundaries.

The OP is in the right and if the lazy mother couldn't be arsed to book a seat and her child is upset, then that's solely on her.

FratersDadIsABeeGee · 09/09/2022 17:56

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Your sense of self importance is as inflated as your "girlfriend". It explains the excess of hot air coming out of you on this thread anyway.

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