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to ask if your child’s school is on this list?

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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 19:51

schoolofsexed.org/where

The School of Sexuality Education (which worked on the ‘Family Sex Show’) is apparently delivering sex ed in many schools across the U.K…

Given the organisation feels it appropriate that unvetted Twitter randoms strip naked to talk to 5 year olds about masturbation, not to mention their strong ‘gender’ ideology, I feel it important that MN users are made aware of this.

Interested in any thoughts as well.

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WonderfulYou · 16/04/2022 22:18

So getting naked with the permission of the parent / teacher to show a child a naked body is (from what I can see) technically not unlawfull.

I guess this would be similar to nudest beaches and things which many people take their children to.

Cascais · 16/04/2022 22:18

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Robinni · 16/04/2022 22:19

@Organictangerine

I also think biological women in particular, and their children, do need safe spaces

What do you think the School of Sexuality Education would say about that statement?

To be honest I don’t really care what they would say.

I have nothing against trans people I work with a few trans men.

Personally I don’t use changing rooms in shops anymore and I feel uncomfortable using local leisure centre changing rooms due to the behaviour of biological males I’ve encountered there since they made them unisex to accommodate everyone together.

They are teaching about inclusivity and respect. While neglecting to mention why female spaces were needed in the first place. Surely women should be respected too?

Not really sure how they are going to solve it.

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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 22:23

@Kurtanforpm

Oh for fucks sake.

Yes. Yes it is. A fucking banana on dds school, only one in the are.

WTF do I do now?

I wouldn’t panic. Myself I would probably email the school and ask if they have any upcoming workshops, and request to see the content. And take it from there.
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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 22:24

@WonderfulYou

So getting naked with the permission of the parent / teacher to show a child a naked body is (from what I can see) technically not unlawfull.

I guess this would be similar to nudest beaches and things which many people take their children to.

But how would you feel if a fellow nudist approached your child to talk about masturbation?
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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 22:25

@Cascais

Why don't you enable voting
I didn’t see it as a voting black/white matter.
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LaingsAcidTab · 16/04/2022 22:25

Yes, the "banana skins" are clitorises. FUBAR.

FairyLightPups · 16/04/2022 22:26

[quote Knackeredbutnot]@Organictangerine - I think that the outrage surrounding the show (which, incidentally no-one is being forced into buying tickets for) has now seeped into getting worked up about this organisation as a whole. I’m not going to enter into the Gender debate (- and education about gender IS part of the new guidelines) but Sex Ed has been badly delivered in many schools for a very long time. It’s often ‘taught’ by people who are embarrassed, use heteronormative examples and who don’t go into detail on topics which are hugely relevant such as body image, consent, peer pressure (especially around sending nudes) porn and also pleasure. Sex Ed then becomes a slide show of various horrible STIs and finally sticking a condom on a banana. I think that this company is excellent (and yes I have experience of working with them) when delivering first rate education to teens in factual and in embarrassing way.[/quote]
This, thank you!

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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 22:26

They are teaching about inclusivity and respect.
…of the views they deem worthy, naturally.

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Robinni · 16/04/2022 22:30

Other than point 1 of level 3, and how it’s tackled in a biased manner. I actually think the syllabus looks very comprehensive. Very mysterious how pregnancy isn’t on the syllabus… and Sexual health, no discussion of STDs? Nor is there any inclusion of religious differences - depending on what background kids are from there are different social norms around sex, relationships and marriage which kids need educated on…. So yeah that’s my take on it. I’d be interested in reading the accompanying book another poster mentioned.

Pixiedust1234 · 16/04/2022 22:38

Whats myth of virginity? Its listed under level 2

No banana skins near me, next big city has one in someone's garden. You'd think they would make an effort and put it on the university or students union at least.

7eleven · 16/04/2022 22:46

Yep. Primary School I used to teach in is on the list

FOJN · 16/04/2022 22:50

That’s really odd as I believe the charity is only a few years old at most

I believe they used to operate under the name Sexplain.

Skinterior · 16/04/2022 22:51

There's a school on there that many of DS's friends will be going to. DS won't. This just adds to all the other reasons that we made that decision. Confused

WonderfulYou · 16/04/2022 22:52

But how would you feel if a fellow nudist approached your child to talk about masturbation?

I would absolutely hate any stranger teaching about masturbation but I do think it’s an important topic to teach 11+ (especially girls) in PSHE which is not compulsory and parents can choose to opt out of.

Rupertgrintismyguiltypleasure · 16/04/2022 22:52

DS 14 school is on there, he doesn’t go to them lessons though as he has autism and doesn’t like personal clad lessons.

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Organictangerine · 16/04/2022 22:53

@WonderfulYou

But how would you feel if a fellow nudist approached your child to talk about masturbation?

I would absolutely hate any stranger teaching about masturbation but I do think it’s an important topic to teach 11+ (especially girls) in PSHE which is not compulsory and parents can choose to opt out of.

Absolutely. But the former is what this charity have endorsed - allowing non-professional strangers to expose themselves and talk about masturbation to small children.
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Rupertgrintismyguiltypleasure · 16/04/2022 22:54

Tbh it doesn’t matter what they get taught at school (sex education) , I bet you it has absolutely no bearing on them as sexual beings. I barely remember what I learnt at school in sex Ed and most of what I learnt came off the internet or through peers.

CheesecakeAddict · 16/04/2022 22:55

I'm fairly sure this is the company that delivered a sex Ed show at our school. They were fab and nothing like the vitriol described by some of the posters. It was literally a load of young actors using language and scenarios the kids could relate to. Our show was on consent and positive relationships but the family side of it it also looked at dv. There was no getting naked or inappropriate scenes. They would basically act something out, stop and the narrator would ask the audience about what was wrong, could they see the red flags, how should they have behaved etc and meshed it all together with the real life support access points. It was very cleverly done and as a survivor of dv I can say it was bloody accurate e.g the shame and embarrassment the victim feels.

Girlmumdogmumboymum · 16/04/2022 22:56

Very glad to see neither my DDs school or any local are listed on their website!

WonderfulYou · 16/04/2022 23:03

Whats myth of virginity?

I believe it’s because being a virgin is a massive issue for some girls e.g. some can’t get married, some can be physically punished and some get their hymen checked regularly etc because it’s seen as so wrong to not be a virgin.

Apparently the whole hymen thing being broken is a myth and that doesn’t mean you’ve had sex.

Catkitkat · 16/04/2022 23:07

This entire PSEH sex ed curriculum is a nightmare. My 11yo attends a Church of England secondary school, she came home totally over informed and somewhat disturbed following one of these sessions. They had talked about contraception, abortions, and how sex is for pleasure not just for procreation etc, yet not a single word about what the age of consent is in this country. I find it completely unnecessary and inappropriate.

WonderfulYou · 16/04/2022 23:08

Absolutely. But the former is what this charity have endorsed - allowing non-professional strangers to expose themselves and talk about masturbation to small children.

Was this at a school?

The parents would have to give consent and if it wasn’t in a school they would have had to physically take them and sit with them so it’s not like it was sprung on them.

I personally wouldn’t want my DC around naked strangers as i too would feel uncomfortable and it’s hard to teach them to keep their private’s private when they see other people doing that but I assume they and the parents who consent do so because they want them to know that their bodies are normal and come in all shapes and sizes.

Jinglebin1 · 16/04/2022 23:15

More absolute nonsense designed to whip people into a frenzy.

mustlovegin · 16/04/2022 23:38

Our show was on consent and positive relationships but the family side of it it also looked at dv

Why can't we - as parents - talk to our children about consent, sex or 'positive body image'? What's preventing us from doing so? We are as qualified (if not more) than the facilitators in this charity. What exactly are their credentials? Who has endowed them with 'the truth'?

I am perfectly capable of researching this 'curriculum' and delivering the information to my children myself. I don't need help from any organisation, thank you very much (and I won't allow anyone to approach my children with this intent).