to ask if your child’s school is on this list?

[Organictangerine]

schoolofsexed.org/where

The School of Sexuality Education (which worked on the ‘Family Sex Show’) is apparently delivering sex ed in many schools across the U.K…

Given the organisation feels it appropriate that unvetted Twitter randoms strip naked to talk to 5 year olds about masturbation, not to mention their strong ‘gender’ ideology, I feel it important that MN users are made aware of this.

Interested in any thoughts as well.

In Edinburgh, the map says the charity works with the school at holyrood palace

The curriculum seems fine. The absolute first thing they're taught about gender is the danger of stereotypes. Later they're taught about the difference between sex and gender.

Seems like some close reading rather than leaps of logic are in order here (by the OP).

Just noticed they’re sponsored by Mooncup! 😮

I used to work at one of the schools who’s logo is up there ( a very highly thought of private school) - they are part of the Methodist Independent Schools Trust, and from being there I can’t see them doing anything at all that is likely to compromise the school’s status….

@Organictangerine - I think that the outrage surrounding the show (which, incidentally no-one is being forced into buying tickets for) has now seeped into getting worked up about this organisation as a whole. I’m not going to enter into the Gender debate (- and education about gender IS part of the new guidelines) but Sex Ed has been badly delivered in many schools for a very long time. It’s often ‘taught’ by people who are embarrassed, use heteronormative examples and who don’t go into detail on topics which are hugely relevant such as body image, consent, peer pressure (especially around sending nudes) porn and also pleasure. Sex Ed then becomes a slide show of various horrible STIs and finally sticking a condom on a banana. I think that this company is excellent (and yes I have experience of working with them) when delivering first rate education to teens in factual and in embarrassing way.

Surprised there are Ark and Harris schools on there. Big academy chains. Worth writing to their head office, I’d have thought.

(I work in a Catholic school and there isn’t a chance in hell they would be let anywhere near the kids. The Diocese would kick off big time.)

[quote Knackeredbutnot]@Organictangerine - I think that the outrage surrounding the show (which, incidentally no-one is being forced into buying tickets for) has now seeped into getting worked up about this organisation as a whole. I’m not going to enter into the Gender debate (- and education about gender IS part of the new guidelines) but Sex Ed has been badly delivered in many schools for a very long time. It’s often ‘taught’ by people who are embarrassed, use heteronormative examples and who don’t go into detail on topics which are hugely relevant such as body image, consent, peer pressure (especially around sending nudes) porn and also pleasure. Sex Ed then becomes a slide show of various horrible STIs and finally sticking a condom on a banana. I think that this company is excellent (and yes I have experience of working with them) when delivering first rate education to teens in factual and in embarrassing way.[/quote]
But you can’t say ‘oh they’re fantastic, if you disregard this huge fuck up and the fact they teach kids things which are scientifically impossible’

Why can’t we have a charity that teaches the good stuff you mention; but is adept at safeguarding, doesn’t think strangers should be able to expose themselves to 5 year olds, and doesn’t put across gender woo ideas which are as logical as flat earth?

@Nancydrawn

The curriculum seems fine. The absolute first thing they're taught about gender is the danger of stereotypes. Later they're taught about the difference between sex and gender.

Seems like some close reading rather than leaps of logic are in order here (by the OP).

Did you see the link and what are your thoughts on the gender unicorn which is in my view sexist confusing shite

@Knackeredbutnot

The company used to be called ‘Sexplain’ and now is ‘School of Sexuality’. They have an excellent book (called Sex Ed) which you can buy from Amazon. The information is factual, non-judgemental and covers a wide range of topics based on the new RSE guidelines. Teenagers deserve better Sex Ed - which is free from shame, clear about consent and which covers topics that are relevant to them and the world that they are growing up in. I cannot see a problem with that.

Teenagers deserve good sex ed; yes. 5 year olds do not need taught sex ed by naked performers, nor do they need to know about 'cum'/'dildo'/'hand-job'/'kink'/'pegging.

thefamilysexshow.com/glossary

“Unless the government guidelines suggest educating 5 year olds by allowing non-DBS checked strangers to expose their genitals at them, I doubt this is entirely true…”

Are there any primary schools on the list?

@Cascais

“Unless the government guidelines suggest educating 5 year olds by allowing non-DBS checked strangers to expose their genitals at them, I doubt this is entirely true…”

Are there any primary schools on the list?

RTFT

Psml theyve got no shows in Liverpool… totally understand why

I see they’re firmly out of Ireland for the time being

From briefly looking at their website and curriculum. They have sponsors I respect and some good feedback from those who’ve participated.

Sex education in my day was ks3 few classes and that was the end of it. Nothing whatsoever of use.

So it is pleasing to see something more professional with information that may actually be relevant to teenagers. Some of the topics are a bit heavy going but all seems to be age appropriate.

I suppose the controversial bit is the chat about LGBTQIA+ (I have no idea myself what all of it stands for, I lost track after Q) and sex and gender which comprise 2/21 of the sections.

Realistically there will be gay and queer people sitting in these classrooms. If they sit through 19 modules focusing on heterosexual dynamics surely there must be some space for inclusion, education on what LGBTQIA+ is and that people who are from this group deserve respect and protection the same as anyone else.

That said I have an American friend who said many of her daughters friends are now identifying as they and a few are wanting to be called “it”. Friend refused to call them an “it”.

I also think biological women in particular, and their children, do need safe spaces and that there should be an alternative to letting anyone who identifies as female waltz in as how are you going to be able to differentiate between a genuine trans person who’s entitled to be there and joe bloggs with his hidden agenda? So I don’t really agree with all the inclusive space brain washing - not because of trans people, but because of those who would take advantage of it.

If it were in my child’s school I’d want to see advance copy of what was being said. They are still children and most won’t know who or what they are until mid twenties.

Good they are promoting acceptance of oneself and focusing in relationships.

There are no specific recommendations that masturbation will be taught as part of this new curriculum. Likewise, the WHO study cited by the NCAA in its final report did not recommend teaching children how to masturbate.

RSE should be age-appropriate teaching.

Copied the below statement about masturbation.
As a result, we rate the claim that children will be taught to masturbate as part of a new sexual education curriculum: FALSE

@nitsandwormsdodger

If men are exposing their genitalia to children that is a crime why haven’t you reported this? Non dbs checked adults in a school can plunge the school into special measures for bad safeguarding practices so I doubt that is true Seriously weird post, if you have concerns raise them with your local safeguarding team

@nitsandwormsdodger

Leaving the DBS issue to one side for the moment.
Oddly enough from the legislation I have read the police have to prove that the male is doing it for his or a third party's sexual pleasure. So getting naked with the permission of the parent / teacher to show a child a naked body is (from what I can see) technically not unlawfull.

Happy to have someone direct me to any legislation which proves me wrong.

I also think biological women in particular, and their children, do need safe spaces

What do you think the School of Sexuality Education would say about that statement?

@Tilltheend99

I think you’re putting a bit too much hope on the Government here. Do your research.

Here's an excerpt from one of their podcasts [spelling/grammatical errors copied verbatim from the transcript, link at the bottom]:

'This all culminated in my friend, this woman in me, going back to my hotel room and having a threesome and it was awesome. He was very much they're in a like assistive capacity which he was very good at very happy to be in the role of and really at least from my memory what that night was about was me and this woman and me and this woman having sex and exploring each other me really realising very quickly and very passionately a lot of things about myself that I hadn't fully allowed myself to realise before. And I think that for a lot of folks with vulvas we are taught that our vulvas are gross they're disgusting they're slimy they're smelly they taste bad etc etc etc and I think that can make the act of having sex really scary because you don't want yours to be gross you you know for me at least even though I know it's not actually a thing that narrative of what if there is growth so what if I find there is gross like that sticks in your head especially in the midst of kind of thinking about having sex with another person with a vulva. Luckily this woman was so confident just kind of leading me through this experience that I didn't have time to stop and think about any of that I just did I just went with it. I have this really clear moment that I remember where I had my fingers in her vagina and I was listening to her and watching her enjoy herself and I just had this really clear OH '

thefamilysexshow.com/pleasure

Oh for fucks sake.

Yes. Yes it is. A fucking banana on dds school, only one in the are.

WTF do I do now?

@SoupDragon

The markers on the map near me aren't on schools at all. One is an office block and one a residential street.

Ditto for my town

Weirdly, the page i clicked to had a pea green vagina made of play doh on it.

Those bananas are yellow clitorisus.

But you don't get the concerns. Aye, right.

@AlisonDonut

What’s wrong with that?
Half the people in the works have vaginas - there’s nothing wrong with them.

I think that’s a creative way to teach people about vaginas and what each part is called.
How did you learn about the names of parts of the vagina?

Yep. Already visited my child's private school (secondary).
All parents had the opportunity to withdraw their child from the workshop if they wished.
Given my child has gay/lesbian/trans fellow pupils the topics were discussed yes - but sensitively and with wellbeing staff present, as well as the usual STI, prevention of pregnancy and relationship discussions.
I wouldn't want those discussions in primary school, but secondary school was fine. The school communication with parents was good.