to ask if your child’s school is on this list?

[Organictangerine]

schoolofsexed.org/where

The School of Sexuality Education (which worked on the ‘Family Sex Show’) is apparently delivering sex ed in many schools across the U.K…

Given the organisation feels it appropriate that unvetted Twitter randoms strip naked to talk to 5 year olds about masturbation, not to mention their strong ‘gender’ ideology, I feel it important that MN users are made aware of this.

Interested in any thoughts as well.

I can’t see a list of schools but the banana skins in my area are not on schools.

The north east is completely free of bananaskins.

@Foilball

The website says they provide workshops for ks3 and up, so not 5 year olds.

I think the OP is talking about a theatrical show this company has produced which does advertise it is for 5 up. There were some other threads about it recently.

I’m a school Governor with responsibility for overseeing safeguarding and RSE.

Not a fucking chance are the words that come to mind

KS3 (so 11-14 year olds? I'm Scottish) will learn about:

• Consent
• Social media & body image
• Contraception
• Positive relationships with friends & family
• Gender roles and stereotypes

Er, yep, all very much normal things to want a teenager to learn about. We NEED to be teaching these things in the wake of social media, young people having access to porn skews a lot of this and it's important that teenagers know what boundaries are. I really am failing to see the problem here.

For anyone interested in a non-scaremongering version, here's the curriculum page: schoolofsexed.org/programme

[quote FairyLightPups]KS3 (so 11-14 year olds? I'm Scottish) will learn about:

• Consent
• Social media & body image
• Contraception
• Positive relationships with friends & family
• Gender roles and stereotypes

Er, yep, all very much normal things to want a teenager to learn about. We NEED to be teaching these things in the wake of social media, young people having access to porn skews a lot of this and it's important that teenagers know what boundaries are. I really am failing to see the problem here.

For anyone interested in a non-scaremongering version, here's the curriculum page: schoolofsexed.org/programme[/quote]
Thank you

@Tilltheend99

I followed the link and literally the first thing it says is that they follow the government’s guidelines for sex education in schools. YABU

You are also scaremongering

They also claim to be supported by NSPCC but they have never heard of them.

Also, people lie.

I don't have enough information but when my dd attended a formerly excellent cofe school in Hammersmith & Fulham the sex Ed nurse who came in showed 14 year old girls how to put a condom on a cucumber. No discussion whatsoever about informed consent, the age of consent or the importance of loving mutually respectful relationships. The LA, the school and the diocese needed to step up imo. But the people in positions of authority in these organisations are pretty unfit imo. Not sure what they were thinking but it wasn't what I was thinking.

It looks fine and the reviews are positive?

OP what evidence is there that it’s inappropriate?

@RosesAndHellebores

I don't have enough information but when my dd attended a formerly excellent cofe school in Hammersmith & Fulham the sex Ed nurse who came in showed 14 year old girls how to put a condom on a cucumber. No discussion whatsoever about informed consent, the age of consent or the importance of loving mutually respectful relationships. The LA, the school and the diocese needed to step up imo. But the people in positions of authority in these organisations are pretty unfit imo. Not sure what they were thinking but it wasn't what I was thinking.

Right and this organisation is doing very much the opposite. One look at their curriculum page tells you that consent is right up there with body image and stereotyping.

The curriculum page is… less bad than the show by a country mile. But teaching children the strong gender ideology, is that necessary as part of sex ed? It seems like pure ideological indoctrination to me. But my primary concern is the show - if the charity actively worked on something that is clearly such a terrible idea, would you WANT them teaching your child sex ed?

National Citizen Service is listed as a school they work with🤔.

register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/5157142/governing-document

It looks as if the company setup made provision to go into primary schools

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10625640

Nature of business (SIC)85200 - Primary education85310 - General secondary education85410 - Post-secondary non-tertiary education85590 - Other education not elsewhere classified

I'm sorry, but have I stepped into a time portal? Is this section 28 all over again?

OP do you want your young girls to learn 'penis and vagina make a baby' or do you want your young girls to learn about saying no when they don't want sex, what abuse looks like, how to support healthy body image, how women can do any job/dress how they like/etc?

I know what I'd rather but if you want to send your children into a world where porn is rising and men are getting more violent and dangerous towards young women who are taught to have no boundaries... be my guest.

@MabelMoo23

I’m a school Governor with responsibility for overseeing safeguarding and RSE.

Not a fucking chance are the words that come to mind

Can you update me on whether gender ideology is a mandatory part of RSE curriculum please?

@JaninaDuszejko

The north east is completely free of bananaskins.

Bit more sense up there.

@Organictangerine

The curriculum page is… less bad than the show by a country mile. But teaching children the strong gender ideology, is that necessary as part of sex ed? It seems like pure ideological indoctrination to me. But my primary concern is the show - if the charity actively worked on something that is clearly such a terrible idea, would you WANT them teaching your child sex ed?

They don't teach about this until 16.

By then young people can make their own minds up about whether or not they engage so it wouldn't be up to you anyway. By that point they would have already learnt about it from the internet.

Respectfully, get a grip.

@FairyLightPups

I'm sorry, but have I stepped into a time portal? Is this section 28 all over again?

OP do you want your young girls to learn 'penis and vagina make a baby' or do you want your young girls to learn about saying no when they don't want sex, what abuse looks like, how to support healthy body image, how women can do any job/dress how they like/etc?

I know what I'd rather but if you want to send your children into a world where porn is rising and men are getting more violent and dangerous towards young women who are taught to have no boundaries... be my guest.

Of course I do. But I don’t want her to be taught that liking football makes her a boy, or that not all women have vaginas, or come to our great show and you get to see the penis of some random off Twitter.

@FairyLightPups Only had a quick glance through but there's nothing too scary about their page on sex ed. I confess, I don't really understand how "colonisation" is relevant to sex education but there's obviously something I'm not properly understanding as I don't work in that field.

I'm in full support of sex education, I'm very comfortable with discussing sex with my children and I think age-appropriate information is a positive thing. Making it taboo and secret causes all kinds of problems.

So on the face of it, I would normally be supportive. I think my concerns would be that this charity (?) supported and was involved in the development of the Family Sex Show which seems to directly contravene what the NSPCC says is appropriate. So with that in mind, how could I trust them to deliver information which is "age appropriate"? Their judgement seems to have been appalling in approving very explicit content for 5 yr olds.

Children aged 13, 14, 15 etc need the right information as they're at an age which is incredibly vulnerable. I am very pro sex education but given the involvement in very inappropriate content elsewhere, I question how this organisation could be trusted to determine what is age-appropriate here. For me, that is the key issue.

@FairyLightPups I don’t believe gender ideology should be taught as truth in schools. Many many mums on here don’t. That’s why I posted this as I knew they would want to be aware. Can you address whether the Family Sex Show is fine and dandy in your eyes?

Ffs but she's not! She's not being taught that! The very first gendery thing to be taught is about how stereotypes are not the reality and how different genders can do ANYTHING!

The one near my old house is actually a university not a school

[quote SpidersAreShitheads]@FairyLightPups Only had a quick glance through but there's nothing too scary about their page on sex ed. I confess, I don't really understand how "colonisation" is relevant to sex education but there's obviously something I'm not properly understanding as I don't work in that field.

I'm in full support of sex education, I'm very comfortable with discussing sex with my children and I think age-appropriate information is a positive thing. Making it taboo and secret causes all kinds of problems.

So on the face of it, I would normally be supportive. I think my concerns would be that this charity (?) supported and was involved in the development of the Family Sex Show which seems to directly contravene what the NSPCC says is appropriate. So with that in mind, how could I trust them to deliver information which is "age appropriate"? Their judgement seems to have been appalling in approving very explicit content for 5 yr olds.

Children aged 13, 14, 15 etc need the right information as they're at an age which is incredibly vulnerable. I am very pro sex education but given the involvement in very inappropriate content elsewhere, I question how this organisation could be trusted to determine what is age-appropriate here. For me, that is the key issue.[/quote]
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Precisely.

[quote Organictangerine]@FairyLightPups I don’t believe gender ideology should be taught as truth in schools. Many many mums on here don’t. That’s why I posted this as I knew they would want to be aware. Can you address whether the Family Sex Show is fine and dandy in your eyes?[/quote]
I've already said I don't support the family sex show if you bothered reading anything properly other than posts that support your own backwards ideology. I spoke out about it on twitter - it's not a representative of healthy safeguarding and it's really worrying.

It's not those actors going into the schools, though.