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To be totally fed up with dogs?

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dogtroubl · 14/04/2022 13:50

When we moved in, neighbours had an old dog that used to wander into our garden and leave poo everywhere. Couldn’t use garden with young kids due to mess and large dog.

Complained (politely), after quite a bit of unpleasantness fence finally fixed, dog died and they got 2 new dogs that were loud but contained.

Neighbours moved, new neighbours also have 2 dogs and fence is in a bad state of repair again due to the constant barking, snarling and scratching that happens every time we go outside. I always make sure I’m out there with the kids in case it breaks because they don’t sound friendly at all.

Their neighbours also have 2 dogs so the 2 sets are always setting each other off barking.

Family members also have dogs. One very old who soils everywhere and one very large, young dog who is very playful and jumps up and licks and dribbles all over you.

My daughter is terrified (the dog is easily as tall as her) and the family member always says dog will be shut away when we go over, but dog is always let or gets out soon after. I can tell my daughter’s fear of this dog irritates the family member but she’s genuinely scared after an incident when she was a toddler, plus this dog is like a horse to her and could do serious damage even with just a nip.

We’ve been to a few kids’ playgrounds over the holidays, dogs off lead and running all over the place at each one. Chasing kids in a “playful” way that scares them.

Dog poo all over footpaths and verges everywhere. Kids tread in it, I tread in it, buggy goes in it because I don’t see it until it’s too late.

I know it’s bad owners not the dogs’ fault etc but AIBU to just be totally fed up with dogs?

OP posts:
Lockheart · 11/01/2023 18:18

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 17:34

Dog bites are far more likely to cause serious infection than human bites.

Did you read the link I included? The science does not agree with you!

Lockheart · 11/01/2023 18:19

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 17:37

I suspect as well that dog bites are a FAR more common occurrence than human bites.

Of course they are. But frequency has no correlation with severity.

MNisMyGuiltyPleasure · 11/01/2023 18:58

Dog poo is terrible for the environment

So are nappies.

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 19:23

Nappies are not left all over public spaces leeching toxins into the water and into the land!
also a ridiculous comparison !!
Human children are FAR superior to any animal !!

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 19:35

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 19:23

Nappies are not left all over public spaces leeching toxins into the water and into the land!
also a ridiculous comparison !!
Human children are FAR superior to any animal !!

Well they quite literally are - feral parents lob their used nappies out the window of their cars and leave them to rot - or, as it happens, not. Far, far worse than dog shit.

You're hysterical because you're making absurd and inaccurate statements about the relative dangers of human and dog bites, and the poor behaviours of parents as well as dog owners. You're hysterical because your first post on this thread is full of shouting and melodrama.

You're not wrong when you say that some dog owners are stupid, reckless arseholes, but you're absolutely wrong to assume that some of the precious human children you're defending aren't going to grow up to be just the same arseholes themselves.

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:08

Misspacorabanne · 11/01/2023 18:14

Oh give over! Why are we even comparing a dog bite with a human bite! Never have I ever thought I hope I don't get bitten by someone in the park today with my kids, but regularly I'll have a random dog run up to us and that I'd worry about! So silly! Dogs are animals! They should have designated areas!

I know!! I don’t even know where to go in response to some of these infuriating comments constantly comparing DOGS AS IN CANINE RELATED TO WOLVES !! To HUMAN children !! It is absurd. When a child runs up to us in the park to play, myself and my kids are NOT FRIGHTENED OR FEELING THREATENED. However if it’s a dog we are very nervous! And guess what the owner is always metres away totally oblivious to the situation ! And guess what - when the animal poos, the owner will be far enough away that they can pretend they didn’t see it.

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:19

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 19:35

Well they quite literally are - feral parents lob their used nappies out the window of their cars and leave them to rot - or, as it happens, not. Far, far worse than dog shit.

You're hysterical because you're making absurd and inaccurate statements about the relative dangers of human and dog bites, and the poor behaviours of parents as well as dog owners. You're hysterical because your first post on this thread is full of shouting and melodrama.

You're not wrong when you say that some dog owners are stupid, reckless arseholes, but you're absolutely wrong to assume that some of the precious human children you're defending aren't going to grow up to be just the same arseholes themselves.

  1. I’ve never ever seen a discarded nappy whilst out and about. Never heard of anyone having to be careful where they tread whilst out and about in case they stand in a nappy !! Are you kidding me !
  2. I’m hysterical because I’m fed up of dogs and entitled dog owners who don’t get what it’s like for people who aren’t in love with canines. These comments totally prove my point that some people just don’t care or even try to understand. I didn’t realise that human bites are more dangerous than dog bites , so hey you learn something new every day but dogs have much sharper teeth than us so I imagine it’s more likely to draw blood. And yeh the whole comparison is weird. I’ve never been scared of a child !
  3. Don’t even know what to say to that ?!?!
SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:26

HushLittleBabyDontYouCry · 11/01/2023 16:50

I've been bitten by a child and a dog.
The difference being that the child doing the biting had a behaviour plan put in immediately, social services got involved and the parents accepted that it was not appropriate behaviour.

When the dog bit me unprovoked I got blamed because 'they could sense my fear' (I'm not scared of dogs, particularly this little rat breed) and it was 'only being friendly'.

In an average week I see dog shit on the street countless times and have my toddler jumped up by arsehole owned canines who are 'just being friendly'. I regularly have my clothes ripped or muddied by them in towns, country and even pubs (rip leather trousers)

Had zero clothes ruined by children.
When a child hurts or scares my child 'being friendly' is not an acceptable excuse and only used by very rare permissive arsehole parents.
Have yet to step in toddler shit.

Dog apologists are batshit. If they actually trained and followed appropriate boundaries they'd have no reason to get defensive. It's very telling there are so many model dog owners willing to defend shitty behaviour by dog owners. I don't go around defending feral children, but probably would if I had one.

Funny how everyone on mumsnet picks up their shit, uses leads appropriately. I guess all the shitty owners are on netmums🤣

Right! I find it really really bizarre that we are on a forum called Mumsnet and it seems people on here PREFER a CANINE over a human child !!

Boomboom22 · 11/01/2023 20:42

People are batshit about dogs. Obviously any child is more important than your dog. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be around children. Disgusting creatures anyway even before you consider the danger.

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:43

Lockheart · 11/01/2023 18:18

Did you read the link I included? The science does not agree with you!

You learn something new every day. Cheers for the info :)

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:46

Boomboom22 · 11/01/2023 20:42

People are batshit about dogs. Obviously any child is more important than your dog. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be around children. Disgusting creatures anyway even before you consider the danger.

100% correct !

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:48

Boomboom22 · 11/01/2023 20:42

People are batshit about dogs. Obviously any child is more important than your dog. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be around children. Disgusting creatures anyway even before you consider the danger.

Literally they

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:51

Boomboom22 · 11/01/2023 20:42

People are batshit about dogs. Obviously any child is more important than your dog. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be around children. Disgusting creatures anyway even before you consider the danger.

Literally they sniff each others butts and roll in dead things and poo, then they get home and jump on the couch and the beds. Urrggh!!

RonnieMcdonnie · 11/01/2023 20:52

Haven’t read the whole thread but if a dog is annoying or aggressive it’s usually (not always, as I know there are some exceptions) the owners fault, blame the humans not the poor dogs

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 21:20

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 20:19

  1. I’ve never ever seen a discarded nappy whilst out and about. Never heard of anyone having to be careful where they tread whilst out and about in case they stand in a nappy !! Are you kidding me !
  2. I’m hysterical because I’m fed up of dogs and entitled dog owners who don’t get what it’s like for people who aren’t in love with canines. These comments totally prove my point that some people just don’t care or even try to understand. I didn’t realise that human bites are more dangerous than dog bites , so hey you learn something new every day but dogs have much sharper teeth than us so I imagine it’s more likely to draw blood. And yeh the whole comparison is weird. I’ve never been scared of a child !
  3. Don’t even know what to say to that ?!?!
  1. Then I guess you don't get out much? Probably a more rural problem than an urban issue. Generally done by people who aren't near home, or convenient changing facilities, though that does not in any way excuse it.
  2. At least you admit you're being hysterical. I don't blame you for being fed up with idiot dog owners, but I do blame you for your hyperbole and melodrama about it. I've never been scared of a dog, but dogs do occasionally kill people. Guess what - so do kids, albeit rarely...
  3. It's a statement of fact - all the arseholes you're whining about were also once children. Maybe if you focus on teaching your children to be rational and considerate adults, instead of spreading hysteria, you won't be contributing to that issue.
AlwaysGinPlease · 11/01/2023 21:21

🙄

UWhatNow · 11/01/2023 21:35

If a naked human walked into your house and told you they’d just had a shit and not wiped their arse would you pat the sofa for them to sit on it and then rub their tummy?

Dog owners don’t think twice about faecel matter being rubbed around their homes but they’d argue the dog licks it away. Yeah and then they allow the dog to lick them, their kids, the plates etc ‘look, he loves us’ - no he’s painting you with his arse shit.

Disgusting.

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 21:37

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 21:20

  1. Then I guess you don't get out much? Probably a more rural problem than an urban issue. Generally done by people who aren't near home, or convenient changing facilities, though that does not in any way excuse it.
  2. At least you admit you're being hysterical. I don't blame you for being fed up with idiot dog owners, but I do blame you for your hyperbole and melodrama about it. I've never been scared of a dog, but dogs do occasionally kill people. Guess what - so do kids, albeit rarely...
  3. It's a statement of fact - all the arseholes you're whining about were also once children. Maybe if you focus on teaching your children to be rational and considerate adults, instead of spreading hysteria, you won't be contributing to that issue.
  1. I am out all the time. And have been here, there, and everywhere. Have never seen a discarded nappy out and about. And even if I had, it would NEVER be in the same quantities as dog poo.
  2. My melodrama is justified, and you cannot be serious about saying that children kill people the way that dogs do. I mean come on !!!!
  3. Well yeah - all adults were once children. But that doesn’t mean I have to tolerate all adults just because they were once children. Any child might grow up to be annoying as an adult but that’s not my concern and doesn’t have much to do with being fed up of dogs.
SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 21:43

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 21:20

  1. Then I guess you don't get out much? Probably a more rural problem than an urban issue. Generally done by people who aren't near home, or convenient changing facilities, though that does not in any way excuse it.
  2. At least you admit you're being hysterical. I don't blame you for being fed up with idiot dog owners, but I do blame you for your hyperbole and melodrama about it. I've never been scared of a dog, but dogs do occasionally kill people. Guess what - so do kids, albeit rarely...
  3. It's a statement of fact - all the arseholes you're whining about were also once children. Maybe if you focus on teaching your children to be rational and considerate adults, instead of spreading hysteria, you won't be contributing to that issue.

P.s. My kids are very rational and considerate of others. What makes you think I wouldn’t teach them that?
it’s absolutely the irresponsible dog owners who need to learn these traits!!!!

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 21:47

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 21:20

  1. Then I guess you don't get out much? Probably a more rural problem than an urban issue. Generally done by people who aren't near home, or convenient changing facilities, though that does not in any way excuse it.
  2. At least you admit you're being hysterical. I don't blame you for being fed up with idiot dog owners, but I do blame you for your hyperbole and melodrama about it. I've never been scared of a dog, but dogs do occasionally kill people. Guess what - so do kids, albeit rarely...
  3. It's a statement of fact - all the arseholes you're whining about were also once children. Maybe if you focus on teaching your children to be rational and considerate adults, instead of spreading hysteria, you won't be contributing to that issue.

And by the way - just because you’ve never been scared of a dog, doesn’t mean you can discount other peoples experience of being scared of them.

BeatrixPottery · 11/01/2023 22:06

@AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie where do you live I literally live a stones throw from one beach and 10 minutes walk from another, been here 2 years, run on the beach 4 times a week. Walk past the other few times a week, never once seen a discarded nappy. Plenty of dog 💩tho!

BeatrixPottery · 11/01/2023 22:11

When did a child last maul someone to death ….how many incidences last year. I can’t believe you’re trying to make out that children kill nearly as many people as dogs and using the word ‘rational’ in the same post…..🤣🤣🤣

ClinkeyMonkey · 11/01/2023 22:30

no he’s painting you with his arse shit.

🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, I know you're describing something horrible @UWhatNow, but this is funny!

I have to admit, I hate dogs sitting on the sofa with their shitty bums.

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 22:56

SummerPeach · 11/01/2023 21:47

And by the way - just because you’ve never been scared of a dog, doesn’t mean you can discount other peoples experience of being scared of them.

Ah, so only your experiences are valid? Gotcha - that would explain why you're dismissing other people's perspectives so readily.

Your hyperbole and hysteria on this thread suggest you're probably not modelling rational and sensible behaviour to your kids. That's why I think you're not teaching them to be considerate, sensible adults.

For the record, since you're struggling with basic comprehension, I didn't say children kill "the way that dogs do" - I said that sometimes, like dogs, children do kill or maim other humans. By your logic, we should all fear them as you do dogs - but we don't because most sensible humans risk assess situations. Most dogs, like most kids, are harmless. I'm certainly in favour of sensible controls over those that aren't harmless.

AGoodDayForSomebodyElseToDie · 11/01/2023 22:58

BeatrixPottery · 11/01/2023 22:11

When did a child last maul someone to death ….how many incidences last year. I can’t believe you’re trying to make out that children kill nearly as many people as dogs and using the word ‘rational’ in the same post…..🤣🤣🤣

You're misquoting me by suggesting I said anything about the incidence of child-committed murders. I didn't, but do feel free to create false arguments if it's giving you pleasure Wink

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