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Just when you think this government can't get any worse - now they are going to send asylum seekers to Rwanda

639 replies

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 14/04/2022 08:25

I didn't vote for this shower. The problem with people arriving (if they make it) in small boats needs addressing but AIBU that sending them on a one way trip to Rwanda isn't the answer?

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Hospedia · 14/04/2022 10:57

Why don’t all you people that want these economic migrants, house them, feed and dress them, give them spending money etc out of your own incomes, not the tax payers?

That would be the government's policy on Ukranian refugees.

Unphased · 14/04/2022 10:57

Hospedia
Your house could home many asylum seekers and save hotel bills

Parker231 · 14/04/2022 10:59

How low can this country go - disgusting. Boris is just trying to deflect from his actions in breaking the law over Partygate.

Hopefully the human rights lawyers will have huge success in stopping this one way journey to Rwanda.

Unphased · 14/04/2022 10:59

Hospedia
Good scheme, why not all asylum seekers,

Hospedia · 14/04/2022 10:59

Your house could home many asylum seekers and save hotel bills

Would it, aye?

Unphased · 14/04/2022 11:00

Parker231
Another tax payers expense

Unphased · 14/04/2022 11:01

Hospedia
Not keen then?

Hospedia · 14/04/2022 11:02

More like not interested in engaging with a troll who hasn't even got the wits to debate properly

Unphased · 14/04/2022 11:06

Hospedia
Not a troll, just someone who is fed up of having the tax payers money wasted on housing, feeding, deportation, appeals, man power wasted on the so called asylum seekers

longwayoff · 14/04/2022 11:10

No feeding hospedia

Fulmine · 14/04/2022 11:10

Something tells me that Priti Patel has told her minions to come up with something that will distract people from her colleagues' criminal activities.

I'd love to see the "Yes Minister" episode where Sir Humphrey is told to do this and plots to come up with the most ludicrously stupid scheme possible, only for Hacker to embrace it enthusiastically because the PM will welcome the distraction.

Fulmine · 14/04/2022 11:12

@AndAsIfByMagic

Apparently it will only be young male economic migrants. The intention is to deter, apparently.
I wonder how they distinguish one young male all of whose relatives have been tortured and killed from another? Is there a tariff requiring a minimum number of dead or imprisoned relatives?
Fulmine · 14/04/2022 11:13

@Unphased

Hospedia Not a troll, just someone who is fed up of having the tax payers money wasted on housing, feeding, deportation, appeals, man power wasted on the so called asylum seekers
Are all asylum seekers a waste of taxpayers' money then? If not, how do you work out which is which? Could you have, say, a system of appeals, do you think?
SleeplessInEngland · 14/04/2022 11:15

Johnson now defending the scheme, calling Rwanda 'one of the safest countries in the world'.

Unphased · 14/04/2022 11:17

Fulmine
Yes, set up in Rwanda

Unphased · 14/04/2022 11:18

longwayoff
Why is it, if you have a different opinion than yours, your a troll?

sal1n · 14/04/2022 11:18

For everyone who doesn't like this proposal what is your solution? Do we accept constantly increasing numbers of economic migrants boating over in dangerous conditions every year forever enriching the smugglers?

Remember also they are coming from France...a place so terrible that's it's one of the biggest tourists destinations on the planet.

What better way to stop smuggling than to stop demand? Who is going to pay to be smuggled from France to Rwanda?

This is a very difficult problem and there is no ideal solution but effectively open borders is not sustainable long-term.

Hospedia · 14/04/2022 11:20

For everyone who doesn't like this proposal what is your solution?

Any solution that isn't a rehash of the origins of the Final Solution.

yellowsuninthesky · 14/04/2022 11:21

@SleeplessInEngland

Tenner says the tories will get so desperate they'll try introducting the death penalty before the next election. Patel did have a consultation on it.
no she didn't
Parker231 · 14/04/2022 11:21

@Unphased

Hospedia Not a troll, just someone who is fed up of having the tax payers money wasted on housing, feeding, deportation, appeals, man power wasted on the so called asylum seekers
Perhaps it would be better if you thought about these human beings who have already survived wars in their own countries.

A little compassion for those less fortunate wouldn’t go amiss

Hospedia · 14/04/2022 11:23

This is a very difficult problem and there is no ideal solution but effectively open borders is not sustainable long-term.

I agree that its a difficult problem and there is no way of solving it that will please everyone however shipping asylum seekers to a country with a disgraceful human rights record where they'll be left in camps at risk of disease, abuse, human rights violations, and more is not the answer. The money would be better spent on the applications process so that people can come here legitimately without having to resort to the people smugglers and on joint operations to root out those smugglers.

SleeplessInEngland · 14/04/2022 11:23

@sal1n

For everyone who doesn't like this proposal what is your solution? Do we accept constantly increasing numbers of economic migrants boating over in dangerous conditions every year forever enriching the smugglers?

Remember also they are coming from France...a place so terrible that's it's one of the biggest tourists destinations on the planet.

What better way to stop smuggling than to stop demand? Who is going to pay to be smuggled from France to Rwanda?

This is a very difficult problem and there is no ideal solution but effectively open borders is not sustainable long-term.

It's cute that you think this scheme will actually work. If they couldn't stop dinghies how do you think they'll manage the logistics of sending all these people south of the equator and back again?
Georgeskitchen · 14/04/2022 11:24

If anyone has actually read the article properly it tells you that this is not women and children but single men coming across illegally in boats, mostly economic migrants who if applying legally wouldn't qualify.
I don't see a problem with this as many other countries in the world adopt this approach. So as much as some of you would love to believe that this country doesn't rescue the vulnerable fleeing war zones, actually, they do

Zilla1 · 14/04/2022 11:26

I didn't catch the interviewers' questions to the ministers selling this as protecting the migrants from unsafe crossings by criminal gangs why the UK is unable to establish a location or mechanism to cut through the demonstrable desire to risk that crossing, such as by issuing entry mechanisms in intermediate, less safe countries. Perhaps the main driver for this policy isn't migrant safety, nor is the announcement timing a coincidence?

To try to look at it in the round, there is a substantive question about why migrants are passing through several safe, affluent countries to which many UK citizens emigrate and holiday every year and risking exploitation and death to try and leave those countries to enter the UK.

Parker231 · 14/04/2022 11:27

It will never happen - human rights lawyers will be all over it and keep it in Court forever