Gove for PM

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With Boris the lamest of lame ducks with not much longer until he is toast and Rishi "don't tax me" Sunak seemingly out of the running AIBU to think that the path is clear for Michael Gove to become the countries saviour and best ever Prime Minister?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

We need Rory Stewart back.

Yes we do.

I find Gove and Hunt repellent, even more than Johnson, however, I would accept literally anyone before Rees-Mogg.

I'd probably favour Javid if we can't have Rory Stewart.

Was it Gove that leaked this stuff about Sunaks tax arrangements?

I'd rather have Gove than Raab or Williamson or Patel but by the time we're at that stage I'd rather have a random person off the street as PM tbh.

I fucking hope not

What do you like about Gove, OP?

He's a lying two faced cunt. And a tory. He ruined education and is utterly vile.

Gove is a vile man and has done so much damage to the education system. I really hope not!!

What alternatives are there?
I think Bob Mortimer would be good, and he's got a sort law background.
I like Martin Clunes, he seemed to know a lot about medicine.
Tis right pity Fred Dibnah's gone t'scrapyard in sky.
And I wouldn't want to mess with Anne Widdecombe.

There are lots more but I just better post before I lose what I've typed.

@DowningStreetParty

Nice try Michael. You’d be an absolute disaster of a PM.

(Though there’s nothing wrong with getting pissed and going out clubbing once in a while and more MPs should do that. )

An absolute disaster would be an order of magnitude better than the current PM>

Gove? No way, they’ll have to do better than that.

@elitecomplainer

There’s a big difference between A’levels in Gove’s time to those before his reforms - no comparison.

Problem has always been that our job/education market competes with those who do have that traditional education and their students are getting the good jobs. He was trying to give students here the same edge.

Fuck me no.

[quote SenoraMiasma]@elitecomplainer

There’s a big difference between A’levels in Gove’s time to those before his reforms - no comparison.

Problem has always been that our job/education market competes with those who do have that traditional education and their students are getting the good jobs. He was trying to give students here the same edge.[/quote]
I did A levels in Gove's time and have DC who have done the whole GCSE and A level journey post-Gove.

I can make my own comparison.

GCSE's now much much harder than the original GCSEs. Contain much of the previous AS content (e.g. in Maths). English lit brought back to Brexit values, with removal of anything other than traditional UK texts (hopefully that has been revised because it is just going to bred narrow-minded people who forget there is a world beyond Brexit borders).

A levels pretty much comparable, except for the removal of nearly all coursework, and 65-70% no longer enough to get you an A in most subjects, now more like 75% and of course that is only the second highest grade since Gove brought in A*, so the poor kids have to get 85% to get the highest grade at a huge cost to their mental and physical and emotional and social well-being.

But, yes, you right, the worst damage was done at GCSE level and thank goodness Gove moved on to 'reform' something else before he got stuck into A levels too.

@DogsAndGin

What do you like about Gove, OP?

He is quite clearly the most dedicated competent turbot in the government.

I think he is even worse than Boris

And 'reform' did not need to follow the highly conservative/totalitarian states in Asia. More hours, more revision, more exams, harder papers etc.

That Tory government could have chosen to look at how the equally successful, Scandinavian countries achieved their high academic standards, but no: EU = bad, liberal = bad.

Aaaaw fuck off Mick!

Absolutely NO, from the frying pan to the fire 🤢

He’s frightening though, seriously. Like saying we had all ‘had enough of experts’ over the problems warned from Brexit.

What have you taken?

@MrsSkylerWhite

What have you taken?

I know all these posters being mean about Gove, definitely something fishy in the water tonight.

Larry the cat for PM.

He also tried to do the same at A level, and indeed there are now As in all A levels so the 17-18 year olds can destroy their mental health and physical health so some Tory can be satisfied that A levels are not getting easier every year (this was the Tory rhetoric Gove was buying into and perpetuating with his 'reforms*

As the parent of an A-level student I like the new grades. 69% is very different from 96% that should be acknowledged.