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Rishi and his wife

276 replies

eerk · 09/04/2022 06:15

AIBU to ask

  1. What is wrong with him having a green card if this is not breaking any rules?

  2. What is wrong with his wife only paying UK tax on UK income if this is within the rules?

I assume what they are doing is no different to what anyone else is likely to do in their situation.

Isn't it the rules the need to change rather than their actions?

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Notonthestairs · 10/04/2022 10:24

@SpinningTheSeedsOfLove

As with much in politics, the original error could have been survivable; but the cover-up isn't.
Sort of agree with this. But I don't think anyone can explain away hanging on to that Green Card for as long as he did.
kirinm · 10/04/2022 10:28

He seems completely moronic. Rather than acknowledge how terrible this all looks, he's now ordered an investigation to find the leak in government because it could be a criminal offence. Doubling down is definitely the way to style this out. And to think he thought he'd be PM.

FatOaf · 10/04/2022 10:44

he's now ordered an investigation to find the leak in government because it could be a criminal offence

Interesting that he's raised the issue of criminal offences being committed in Downing Street, given that The Contemptible Turd and Young Master Jacob have been so busy telling us that this isn't important...

Merrymouse · 10/04/2022 11:00

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/07/akshata-murty-non-dom-rishi-sunak-wealth-chancellor

Interestingly this comment article is still talking about citizenship, not domicile, so still confused about what non Dom means.

It could well be a criminal offence, but it doesn’t mean he is less compromised as chancellor by his wife’s non Dom status.

Basically he is doing

Merrymouse · 10/04/2022 11:01

basically he is doing a Johnson and completely missing the point.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 10/04/2022 11:05

I wonder if RS knows he's buggered, but he'd quite like to take a few people down with him who don't have his billions to fall back on.

Is he really turning on Johnson? He's doing it very clumsily if so.

Merrymouse · 10/04/2022 11:07

@SpinningTheSeedsOfLove

I wonder if RS knows he's buggered, but he'd quite like to take a few people down with him who don't have his billions to fall back on.

Is he really turning on Johnson? He's doing it very clumsily if so.

Clumsy or not, if he decides his future in politics is over, will he reveal more about partygate etc. etc.?
Folicky · 10/04/2022 11:14

@HollowTalk

Surely the issue is that she's saying she doesn't live here to avoid taxation and yet she lives at number 11 Downing Street with the chancellor of the exchequer.
Exactly. I know they don't kill people but there's a touch of the Marty and Wendy Byrde about this. But who's to say that it's not impossible to get to the higher echelons on politics without substantial wealth. And, in the words of Wendy Byrde - nobody carers where your money comes from after two (even local) election cycles. She was living in fucking Downing Street under the noses of the world's press and saying she didn't even live in this country. How does that happen if the whole thing isn't hellishly corrupt?
jgw1 · 10/04/2022 11:14

Clumsy or not, if he decides his future in politics is over, will he reveal more about partygate etc. etc.?

I don't think his future in politics is over. It would seem to me that he ideally placed to become Foreign Secretary as he appears to desperately want to be foreign.

noblegiraffe · 10/04/2022 11:18

Rich people can buy whatever future they like.

Notonthestairs · 10/04/2022 11:24

Interestingly The Times hinted at a cabinet reshuffle after local elections with Truss & Sunak changing places so you might be on the money jgw!

ElizabethG81 · 10/04/2022 11:43

I've not seen much discussion about Sajid Javid admitting he was non-dom for 6 years before becoming an MP. He was born in Rochdale and as far as I can see has lived his whole life in the UK apart from a short period of time working abroad.

What a fucking farce.

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp · 10/04/2022 13:05

Because Javid wasn't an MP when he was non dim?

awaynboilyurheid · 10/04/2022 13:12

Folicky that’s a brilliant line … a touch of the Marty and Wendy Byrne about these two … couldn’t have put it better and sums them up!

closetmeupandshootmetotheskies · 10/04/2022 13:23

[quote LCD39]@chimichangaz I sing from the same hymn sheet as you! Literally if this government gets voted out at the next election I will be singing and dancing in the street. If they stay in power for another four years, I will seriously consider my future of staying in this country! There is nothing Great about Britain with these corrupt buffoons in power, the voters that apologise for the inept MPs and the little Britain mentality we now have since leaving the EU! [/quote]
Why? What are you on? Labour are the same as the tories, they're as bad as each other. Labour don't oppose this shit, they've been silent on the tax loopholes because they all benefit too, their fat snouts are all in the trough.

You're insane if you think that the labour party are better or different. That's how they truly rule us. They split us along lab/tory lines to stop us focussing on the important stuff: that they're all the same, none of them are different, voting means nothing, and you mean nothing to any of them. You're part of the problem.

ElizabethG81 · 10/04/2022 13:26

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp

Because Javid wasn't an MP when he was non dim?
I still think it says a lot about his morals.
jgw1 · 10/04/2022 13:27

Why? What are you on? Labour are the same as the tories, they're as bad as each other. Labour don't oppose this shit, they've been silent on the tax loopholes because they all benefit too, their fat snouts are all in the trough.

You are quite correct, Labour are exactly the same which is why instead of having a manifesto that promised to end non dom status they just photocopied the Tory manifesto and distributed that.

If we could digress a bit to the cost of living crisis we can also see that both parties are the exactly the same with one proposing in January removal of VAT on fuel and the other opposing it.

closetmeupandshootmetotheskies · 10/04/2022 13:33

@jgw1

Why? What are you on? Labour are the same as the tories, they're as bad as each other. Labour don't oppose this shit, they've been silent on the tax loopholes because they all benefit too, their fat snouts are all in the trough.

You are quite correct, Labour are exactly the same which is why instead of having a manifesto that promised to end non dom status they just photocopied the Tory manifesto and distributed that.

If we could digress a bit to the cost of living crisis we can also see that both parties are the exactly the same with one proposing in January removal of VAT on fuel and the other opposing it.

They're all, labour and tories alike, invested in protecting the shitty situation. Labour make a few token concessions, but they won't do anything concrete about expenses, stopping MPs having second jobs, all of that. Hell, Labour can't even define the term woman, which is a huge thing making them fundamentally unelectable.

The whole system is a total joke and designed to keep you and me and everyone else outside of their social sphere and network, not of their background out, and in their place. Which is beneath them, paying for them, paying for their absurd and ludicrous expenses like engraved airpods and new and shiny tech they all suddenly needed when the WFH order was put in place.

If you can't see that then you're blind and part of the problem. Labour don't care about you, nor do the tories, and a few pathetic, miserly concessions made by Labour - headed by a fecking Sir, what a total joke -are fundamentally meaningless.

Single biggest thing which could be done to overhaul the system would be scrapping the fee to run as MP, and requiring all those who want to run to have lived in that constituency for a year on NMW. But that's a non starter because all those in parliament, including Labour have no idea how to manage on that.

jgw1 · 10/04/2022 13:42

@closetmeupandshootmetotheskies you forgot to mention two very important aspects that demonstrate that Keir is exactly the same as Big Dog and NoTax.

Firstly that Keir once had a beer and secondly that he owns a field in Surrey.

As you say at least Big Dog knows what a women is, having had so many of them, is the jury still out on NoTax on this question?

Timeforausernamechange22 · 10/04/2022 13:44

@ElizabethG81

I've not seen much discussion about Sajid Javid admitting he was non-dom for 6 years before becoming an MP. He was born in Rochdale and as far as I can see has lived his whole life in the UK apart from a short period of time working abroad.

What a fucking farce.

Because at the time he was a private citizen. He gave it up before he became an MP and a public servant. That’s the difference.

Do I think it lowers my opinion of him? Yes it does, but he’s Tory and usually people who benefit from these schemes are conservative supporters so I’m not surprised either. They have no interest in helping the poorest in society, never have never will. They are there to serve the rich and help them get richer.

walkersareback · 10/04/2022 13:50

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp

Because Javid wasn't an MP when he was non dim?
Was he ever non dim? GrinGrin
JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/04/2022 13:52

As I said on the other thread, when Tory PRs realise they can’t defend their heroes, they resort to claiming ‘they are all as bad as each other’.

All MPs are not the same. Many work out of a sense of public duty and care about the people of this country. A few years ago, MPs would have resigned for 10% of what Rishi has done.

I hope that journalists research into why he was so keen and quick to write off the £7bn in stolen furlough money. Would be interested to know whether any associates of his had companies which benefited. This and the PPE contracts.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 10/04/2022 13:54

If you assume high office somewhere you should show a commitment to that country. Both of them, through his green card and her non dom status have clearly indicated that the UK is not the place they see as their forever home. It may not be illegal but it sure doesnt look good.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 10/04/2022 13:57

Plus we have a government which has been making sneaky moves to put the NHS on the negotiating table with US trade talks. Having someone involved in senior decision making who has an affiliation with the US - again I say, it doesnt look good, even if it is completely innocent.

awaynboilyurheid · 10/04/2022 15:38

The feckin Sir as somone referred to him , worked his way up from nothing to become that Sir, unlike Sunak and his billionaire wife he wasn’t handed it on a golden platter to make even more golden platters.

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