Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

[BigGreenSpacehopper]

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

[quote Clavinova]Fulmine

@ Clavinova it apparently doesn't matter to you that he kept quiet about the green card

A Treasury spokesman said Mr Sunak had declared his green card arrangement to the Cabinet Office in 2018, when he became a Minister.

Clearly Sunak understands the problems better than you do...If he really thought there was nothing wrong, his wife would still be claiming non dom tax relief and he would be telling all and sundry to publish and be damned.

As per my previous link, Stephen Kinnock offered to pay taxes of £40,000 he didn't owe - his wife went on to become prime minister of Denmark;
Mr Kinnock has agreed to pay taxes in Denmark for last year [2009] - even though he is not obliged to do so - in an attempt to kill off the row.

It's also interesting that Johnson hasn't been bothering to try to counteract the view that he was responsible for leaking information about Sunak.

The Guardian;
Speaking at a press conference on Friday, Johnson said he had not known about Murty’s tax status. Asked if the prime minister knew Sunak had held a green card allowing him US residency, the spokesperson said: “I haven’t asked him with regards to the green card. But it’s not a requirement to provide that information to the prime minister.”

Worth noting that Starmer was highly rated by women's support organisations for his stance on rape prosecutions when he was DPP.

Mixed views actually;
womenagainstrape.net/keir-starmers-record-on-rape/[/quote]
@Clavinova You defending a Prime Minister who stated that he did not know something, when last December the same Prime Minister stated that he did not know of any law breaking in Downing Street, turns out he, his wife and 50 of the staff had been breaking the law.
So either the Prime Minister lied, or is too stupid to know when he is at a party. I am not sure that is a good look.

Notonthestairs
If you want to lead the country (and we've been led to believe that he does) I imagine voters would like to know that'll you stick around to see the outcome.

Didn't these three men want to lead the country as well?

Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg lives in California;

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-silicon-valleys-hitech-homes-76t3kl5d2

Former Foreign Secretary and Labour leadership hopeful David Miliband lives in New York;

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-miliband-interview-refugees-cop26-ed-labour-climate-b962722.html

And it seems that Rory Stewart has a teaching position at Yale University;
jackson.yale.edu/person/rory-stewart/

A Treasury spokesman said Mr Sunak had declared his green card arrangement to the Cabinet Office in 2018, when he became a Minister.

You miss the point. A Green card is irrelevant to someone living and working in the UK but it may well matter to the Americans, that Sunak chose to take what to them is a Foreign Government job, which is breaking their law. But I dare say that with access to his wife's money he may well be able to buy his way out of that, and get another one.

@Clavinova Do you have any links you could share that shows us that Rishi didn't not deserve to be fined.

At least Boris knows what a woman is, having partied with so many of them.

Is it only me who is concerned that Allegra Stratton and Cressida Dick, both women are the only people to have resigned so far.

But Boris knows what a woman is and how to blame them for his short comings.

Agree jgw1 and neither of those two women were at the parties.

But Boris knows what a woman is and how to get them pregnant.

[quote Clavinova]Notonthestairs
If you want to lead the country (and we've been led to believe that he does) I imagine voters would like to know that'll you stick around to see the outcome.

Didn't these three men want to lead the country as well?

Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg lives in California;

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-silicon-valleys-hitech-homes-76t3kl5d2

Former Foreign Secretary and Labour leadership hopeful David Miliband lives in New York;

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-miliband-interview-refugees-cop26-ed-labour-climate-b962722.html

And it seems that Rory Stewart has a teaching position at Yale University;
jackson.yale.edu/person/rory-stewart/[/quote]
They all left the country after leaving parliament. How are they relevant?

Clegg, Miliband & Stewart left politics and got themselves a job and a green card.
Sunak began politics with his green card - as I say he had one foot out of the door.
Keep googling - I'm sure you've got more links. I imagine you'll be kept super busy tonight.

Peregrina
You miss the point. A Green card is irrelevant to someone living and working in the UK but it may well matter to the Americans, that Sunak chose to take what to them is a Foreign Government job, which is breaking their law.

Actually, I had RedToothBrush's post in mind as well; I also expect the chancellor to follow the ministerial code on declaring this and any green card status (or similar) -
but it seemed easier to reply to one poster.

Don't worry, Lib Dems resident busybody Layla Moran has already written to US authorities asking them to investigate whether Rishi Sunak has broken their green card laws.

Notonthestairs
Clegg, Miliband & Stewart left politics and got themselves a job and a green card.

They didn't stick around though which is apparently a prerequisite for you.
Sunak began politics with his green card

Do you think the Labour Party should bar any EU passport holders from holding shadow cabinet positions in case they want to move to the EU in the future?

They all left the country after leaving parliament. How are they relevant?

It goes to show how much better Rishi "why would I pay tax?" Sunak is than them, because he left the country before he came an MP and has been vacant ever since.

@Clavinova

Peregrina You miss the point. A Green card is irrelevant to someone living and working in the UK but it may well matter to the Americans, that Sunak chose to take what to them is a Foreign Government job, which is breaking their law.

Actually, I had RedToothBrush's post in mind as well; I also expect the chancellor to follow the ministerial code on declaring this and any green card status (or similar) -
but it seemed easier to reply to one poster.

Don't worry, Lib Dems resident busybody Layla Moran has already written to US authorities asking them to investigate whether Rishi Sunak has broken their green card laws.

@Clavinova on the subject of busybodies, I understand that Number 11s sometimes resident busy body has written to someone asking them to investigate why people were allowed to tell the truth about him.

[quote Clavinova]Notonthestairs
If you want to lead the country (and we've been led to believe that he does) I imagine voters would like to know that'll you stick around to see the outcome.

Didn't these three men want to lead the country as well?

Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg lives in California;

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-silicon-valleys-hitech-homes-76t3kl5d2

Former Foreign Secretary and Labour leadership hopeful David Miliband lives in New York;

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-miliband-interview-refugees-cop26-ed-labour-climate-b962722.html

And it seems that Rory Stewart has a teaching position at Yale University;
jackson.yale.edu/person/rory-stewart/[/quote]
Rory's wife is an American citizen so he had greater reason to do this and he was pretty upfront about it.

Do you think the Labour Party should bar any EU passport holders from holding shadow cabinet positions in case they want to move to the EU in the future?

Well given that the only people who can stand for Parliament are the following:

People wishing to stand as an MP must be over 18 years of age, be a British citizen or citizen of a Commonwealth country or the Republic of Ireland,

then single nationality EU citizens unless they are from RoI, Malta or Cyprus are already barred from standing. So if Ms Murthy felt minded to stand for Parliament, as a Commonwealth Citizen there is no impediment to her doing so.

"Do you think the Labour Party should bar any EU passport holders from holding shadow cabinet positions in case they want to move to the EU in the future?"

Just Labour MP's or Conservative ones too? What about peers? Or are you suggesting only Labour MP's applied.
Well, I'm sure lots of people in the UK have family in Ireland and it is permitted to have dual citizenship and be an MP as far as I am aware.
I suppose if they owned a house in Europe and met up with potential medical services investors during their vacation times I'd wonder what they might be up to.

Rishi's green card was job based rather than family links wasn't it? Or did he get it in the "American dream" lottery?

You would not even need dual citizenship from any of the three countries I listed. Other EU citizens would have to have dual nationality.

Rishi's Green Card was a result of a choice and commitment he made as an adult. It is different from the case of people born in the USA but hardly lived there and then find themselves chased for US tax years later. You can't control where you are going to be born.

jgw1

As we already know from Labour MP Harriet Harman - 'people's tax affairs are a private matter.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256169/Harriet-Harman-refuses-answer-questions-Labours-major-funders.html

Soffit
Rory's wife is an American citizen so he had greater reason to do this and he was pretty upfront about it.

I seem to remember that several posters were unhappy at the thought of Indian citizen Akshata Murthy going back to live in India - but all is forgiven if you have American citizenship?

Notonthestairs
Just Labour MP's or Conservative ones too?

I didn't think you supported the Conservative Party - where's your moral high ground?

Rishi's green card was job based rather than family links wasn't it?

Similar for Nick Clegg and David Miliband (I assume).

Peregrina
single nationality EU citizens

I wasn't thinking of single nationality EU citizens.

I for one have written to my MP to express my disgust at Rishi Sunak's dodgy dealings with PPE contracts, his wife's tax dodging, and his green card. I've written I want both him and BJ to resign.

ManyATime
They all left the country after leaving parliament. How are they relevant?

I very much doubt that Rishi Sunak was planning to commute from California if he became prime minister.

There's been a pandemic, it needs paying for and this is a global issue

@JaniieJones

Still makes the cost of living crisis an issue for Red Wall voters and Red Wall MPs.

Saying it's a global issue and needs paying for might not go down too well with many voters. Still, worth a try though....

@Clavinova. Layla Moran resident busybody?? Actually a very good MP in an area we have lived. Its called politics— Tory’s and Tory press had plenty of busybodies on hand when it came to checking on labour or Lib Dem MPs in the past. I’m sure if there was plenty of dirt they would be digging it up right now!! Are you a Tory PR or something? I’ve voted various things in the past depending where I lived and my views are more for non extremism and sanity and actually governing the country ‘for all’ not just their own rabid supporters , rather than perpetually campaigning — however I find it difficult to see where you are coming from , unless in some way you are involved with the party??

I seem to remember that several posters were unhappy at the thought of Indian citizen Akshata Murthy going back to live in India - but all is forgiven if you have American citizenship?

Then perhaps your memory is faulty. What Sunak was at first claiming was that his wife intended to go back to India. It later transpired that both of them had told the US authorities that they intended to make their permanent home in the USA - which would rule out the intention to make India a permanent home. What we don't know, and isn't relevant because she is not standing for public office, is at what stage she changed her mind, but since I believe she gave up her Green card before he did, she may well have given it up when she realised she did not want to make the USA her permanent home.

BTW Clavinova - did you have a problem with Boris Johnson having dual nationality? He chose to give it up of course, but this was when the US came for a nice fat tax bill. Which he had to cough up.

And more To the point @clavinova your comments record on mumsnet show no signs of commenting on anything whatsoever, other than busily supporting Boris Johnson or the Tory government regardless of behaviour — are you Carrie?? Or a PR for them? It seems quite an unhealthy obsession.

Crikeyalmighty
I find it difficult to see where you are coming from, unless in some way you are involved with the party??

No, I'm not involved with the party.

my views are more for non extremism and sanity

So are mine. I am perfectly sane and I don't have extreme views at all. I didn't bother to answer your previous post - didn't you say the only current Tory supporter you knew kept talking about Enoch Powell and suggested that others must be receiving backhanders? Where is the sanity in that line of argument?

MasterChef calls.

I very much doubt that Rishi Sunak was planning to commute from California if he became prime minister.

That’s how it appears when you have a well worked out Plan B rather than putting all efforts into Plan A.

Murty simultaneously swearing to go and live in India and the USA isn’t a good look either.

@Crikeyalmighty

And more To the point *@clavinova* your comments record on mumsnet show no signs of commenting on anything whatsoever, other than busily supporting Boris Johnson or the Tory government regardless of behaviour — are you Carrie?? Or a PR for them? It seems quite an unhealthy obsession.

This!