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Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol

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MatthewJTaylor · 07/04/2022 21:28

From May 5th to May 8th 2022, the Tobacco Factory Theatres in Bristol is having performances of "The Family Sex Show".
This show is aimed at children 5 years old and up.
The performers involved get naked.
The discussion with the children is on sex, sexuality and sexual pleasure.

I cannot imagine brining a 5 year old child to a theatre where people will to to her/him about sex and show their naked bodies to her/him.

Am I the crazy one?

Sources:
The Family Sex Show website
Listing at The Tobacco Factory Theatres

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BastardtheCat · 08/04/2022 08:20

@partystress

I would challenge PPs to show where pegging comes in the RSE curriculum for 5 year olds.

Or ‘TERF’, which is helpfully included in the glossary, just in case we were in any doubt about this group’s intentions.

They can just FOTHFSOFAFOSM with their queering and cissing. If any public money is going into this, it’s a fucking outrage when huge numbers of children are arriving at school hungry.

Seriously?

I hope you're not, but if you are that's a red flag right there.

SouthernFashionista · 08/04/2022 08:21

Absolutely sick. All part of the plan to legitimatise paedophilia IMO. And we’re all supposed to cheer at how progressive and liberal we all are.

RoseAndRose · 08/04/2022 08:21

The show is for 5+ not EYFS

It says it's age appropriate for that group. A lot of posters here are assuming that's not the case.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 08/04/2022 08:22

So now we know where PIE went. They never went away just carried on hiding in plain sight.

Snugglepumpkin · 08/04/2022 08:23

Maybe it's like one of those Police set ups they do on TV shows sometimes, but this time it's Social Services who are just going to stand at the door & open a child protection investigation on every adult who tries to take a child in there?

PrelateChuckles · 08/04/2022 08:24

For anyone who hasn't come across the NSPCC guidance for talking about safety from sexual abuse to young children, here's the info.

www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/support-for-parents/pants-underwear-rule/pants-how-to-answer-questions/

Things like "why would someone want to touch me under my pants? "

And "n our PANTS materials, we never talk about sex or use scary words. We focus on keeping safe and rules that help children understand important messages, like their body belongs to them and they should tell an adult if they're upset or worried."

PrelateChuckles · 08/04/2022 08:25

@RoseAndRose

The show is for 5+ not EYFS

It says it's age appropriate for that group. A lot of posters here are assuming that's not the case.

Kids turn 5 in reception.

There's no assuming - people are commenting based on the information on the website and the Guardian article. It says adults get naked , talk about masturbation and sexual pleasure.

This is not appropriate for age 5.
Did you think it was?

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 08/04/2022 08:25

@RoseAndRose

The show is for 5+ not EYFS

It says it's age appropriate for that group. A lot of posters here are assuming that's not the case.

It's not assuming. They say themselves that the show has naked adults and covers sexual pleasure in children and consent. Do tell us how it could ever be appropriate for naked adults to discuss sexual pleasure with a 5 year old.
Ionsion · 08/04/2022 08:28

There seems to be a disturbing movement in this country towards legitimising the grooming of young impressionable children and paedophilia. These people are even gaining access to our kids schools. It’s sick! It needs calling out every single time.

Tilltheend99 · 08/04/2022 08:29

You seem to be overreacting. From the website link you shared, everyone seems to be wearing clothes. It is described as Sesame Street meets Flight of the Concords. Sounds more like Horrible Histories for sex education trying to make it engaging.

So, if it is at a theatre then the content will have been examined for safeguarding already.

If you are five you will have your parents with you so parent has already given consent to talk to their child learning about bodies etc and can discuss the themes more after the show.

Unless you can prove with better links that something bad is in the show, then you are scare mongering at best.

I don’t believe talking to children about things like sexuality and inclusion is wrong if anything, those seeking to ban children from hearing words like gay are causing the damage.

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OutingHobby · 08/04/2022 08:30

So, if it is at a theatre then the content will have been examined for safeguarding already. they haven't even finished it

Ionsion · 08/04/2022 08:30
  • in plain sight
RoseAndRose · 08/04/2022 08:30

It states it conforms to NSPCC standards on age appropriate.

Not having seen it, I don't have first-hand evidence (and neither it seems do most posters on the thread), and I don't automatically assume it won't meet the standards it says it will.

I agree there an an 'if' until someone who has seen the finished version can say more exactly

beattieedny · 08/04/2022 08:32

I'm watching the Jimmy Savile documentary on Netflix. Seems apt.

ShepherdMoons · 08/04/2022 08:32

I can imagine the chat at school if children have been to see this. Children talking about dildos and masturbation at 5 or 6 years old will surely be something the teacher would see as worrying.

Sweetpea84 · 08/04/2022 08:32

The parents who take their children to drag time story time would definitely be booking this. I can never get my head around why you would want to go its just so vulgar and inappropriate!

OnlyTheTitosaurusOfTheIceberg · 08/04/2022 08:33

@FOJN

Early and precocious language about sex is a massive red flag for abuse.

Teach them the words early enough as part of "educating" them and you can start to claim precocious language is not a red flag.

Normalise adults they are not related to getting naked in front of them and they won't see the red flag.

Talk to them about using pleasure as a vehicle for consent and you prime them to blame themselves for any abuse they may suffer.

How is this sort of thing not sounding a national safeguarding alarm? It is endangering children not protecting them, 5 years old is too young to understand the complexities around sex, relationships and consent. They need to understand the basics about types of families and what behaviour is normal between adults and children. They need to know they should tell someone and are NEVER responsible when an adult breeches those behaviour boundaries.

This with multicoloured flashing knobs on!

Anyone who can’t see the dangers to child safeguarding in this has let their brains leak out of their ears.

beattieedny · 08/04/2022 08:34

@ShepherdMoons

I can imagine the chat at school if children have been to see this. Children talking about dildos and masturbation at 5 or 6 years old will surely be something the teacher would see as worrying.
Excellent point. I would!
PrelateChuckles · 08/04/2022 08:34

I don’t believe talking to children about things like sexuality and inclusion is wrong if anything, those seeking to ban children from hearing words like gay are causing the damage.

You missed the bit of the website where it says repeatedly that adults get naked and talk about sexual pleasure? Did you not read the Guardian article linked in the thread where they talk about masturbation?

If so, can you state whether you think that is age-appropriate at primary age? And explain how it doesn't breach the NSPCC guidance linked above?

NotBadConsidering · 08/04/2022 08:36

So, if it is at a theatre then the content will have been examined for safeguarding already.

I’m always amazed at how people are so utterly trusting that the rest of the world a) understands safeguarding and b) can implement it properly.

As I asked above, give us an example of how any strange adult getting naked in front of children fits with safeguarding and is appropriate, even without knowing what they’re going to do. I’m assuming you can think of a way they might go about it?

DrBlackbird · 08/04/2022 08:37

This lost me when stipulating it’s for "5 years old and up". A 5 year old is not able to process information on sex anywhere close to how a pre-teen or teen or young adult will. Trying to pretend it’s for all ages is disconcerting and points to a lack of understanding of human sexual development. There’s a reason that schools teach different sex Ed curriculum to different ages.

2fallsfromSSA · 08/04/2022 08:46

@NotBadConsidering

So, if it is at a theatre then the content will have been examined for safeguarding already.

I’m always amazed at how people are so utterly trusting that the rest of the world a) understands safeguarding and b) can implement it properly.

As I asked above, give us an example of how any strange adult getting naked in front of children fits with safeguarding and is appropriate, even without knowing what they’re going to do. I’m assuming you can think of a way they might go about it?

Absolutely. Safeguarding is poorly understood and rarely implemented. Peoples faith in organisations like this is at best naive.

Anyone who thinks 5 year olds should watch adults getting naked and talking about sex and sexual pleasure needs their heads examining. And educational professional who thinks this is ok need to be reported to their employer.

DoorWasAJar · 08/04/2022 08:48

@RoseAndRose

The show is for 5+ not EYFS

It says it's age appropriate for that group. A lot of posters here are assuming that's not the case.

BDSM, Kink, Abortion - for 5 year olds? Never-mind the political terms.
OutingHobby · 08/04/2022 08:48

If it was for older teens I could possibly just about understand but I can't imagine any teen wanting to sit through this with their parents sat next to them.

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