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Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol

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MatthewJTaylor · 07/04/2022 21:28

From May 5th to May 8th 2022, the Tobacco Factory Theatres in Bristol is having performances of "The Family Sex Show".
This show is aimed at children 5 years old and up.
The performers involved get naked.
The discussion with the children is on sex, sexuality and sexual pleasure.

I cannot imagine brining a 5 year old child to a theatre where people will to to her/him about sex and show their naked bodies to her/him.

Am I the crazy one?

Sources:
The Family Sex Show website
Listing at The Tobacco Factory Theatres

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gregaliara · 08/04/2022 06:02

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tabbycatstripy · 08/04/2022 06:28

MAPs.

Serious safeguarding issues here.

“It’s about sexual health, and mental health.
It's about consent and safety.
It's about accepting that you are you and you are enough - that we are all different and that that’s a brilliant thing, because we are also all equal.

We think that access to those things should be available for everyone.”

I bet they do.

DoorWasAJar · 08/04/2022 06:36

[quote Goawayangryman]@FuckeryOmbudsman the RSHE curriculum guidance does categorically not advocate teaching about sexual pleasure at the age of 5. Pants rule, bodily autonomy etc, yep, all fine. This does not appear to be that. And I am super liberal. I find it very disingenuous also that the content is still apparently being crafted. What a load of crap. Any educational think like this should start from clear principles and be able to say at the very least what will, and will not be, covered.[/quote]
The Glossary seems to make clear the topics they will cover: TERF, Anti-Capitalist, Abortion, BDSM, Cis-gender, Cis-heteronormativity, Cum, Dildo, Euro-centric, Gender binary (the idea that there are only two genders – man and woman.),Hand job, Horny, Non monogamy, Kink, Pegging, Oral Sex, Play Parties (BDSM parties), Pornography, Pre-Cum, Privilege, Pronoun, Protection, Revolution, Squirting, Tik Tok. And also White Supremacy but their blurb says: ‘...also refers to the fact that the world we live in today is dominated by whiteness in terms of who holds more power.’ which is strange. I’m not certain that’s factual, what about countries with brown people, they don’t exist? Or they don’t have power? That’s extremely condescending to black and brown people, to say they have no power. Whet exactly is the definition of power?

I noticed ‘grooming’ doesn’t feature in their glossary. And they repeatedly say you must use words people are comfortable when referring to them and then they add TERF. It’s just a lot. It reminds me of this German brochure they had in kindergartens, telling fathers how they must ‘teach’ their small daughters about their vaginas and how they are meant to get pleasure from them. It sounds made up, right? But it really happened, I read this brochure myself years ago.

QuebecBagnet · 08/04/2022 06:42

@FuckeryOmbudsman

It's taking the school PSHE curriculum for that age group and turning it into a show for families.

Those who think it's outrageous/grooming, do you actually know what is on that age group's curriculum and how your school delivers it?

No I don’t. But I suspect the teacher doesn’t get naked.
SolasAnla · 08/04/2022 06:43

@SpaceshiptoMars

What are MAPs? I googled, but it just showed me diagrams of how to get from A to B.

Asking for a friend.

@SpaceshiptoMars

Its a acronym and an approved twitter hashtag to summarise all types of sexual attraction to children and teens.

MAP
Minor (baby to 18)
Attracted (sexually)
Person

The subgroup is
NOMAP
Non
Offending
Minor (baby to 18)
Attracted (sexually)
Person

Its one of those phrases used to destigmatised.

A bit like using sex worker which has a subclass of prostitute and another of pimp. The process of force teaming offending behaviours dilutes the reality. A report of someone being charged with having sex with a minor sounds very different to having sex with a baby.
The reader will automatically replace the words having sex with rape when the word baby is used.

Floydthebarber · 08/04/2022 06:52

I absolutely do and I know it's taught in a slow, gentle way by teachers they know. In clothes. My dc see dh and me naked, they see each other naked and we make it clear that if a stranger ever tries to show them a pictures or themselves naked they must tell someone they know and trust.

The school phse curriculum is age appropriate, that is not.

Floydthebarber · 08/04/2022 06:54

Oh ffs, my repose was to this: *It's taking the school PSHE curriculum for that age group and turning it into a show for families.

Those who think it's outrageous/grooming, do you actually know what is on that age group's curriculum and how your school delivers it?*

jellymaker · 08/04/2022 07:03

I would suggest that as many of us as possible write to the Bristol safeguarding board expressing our concern. Link here bristolsafeguarding.org/contact-us/

Scatterbrainbox · 08/04/2022 07:09

I've just looked at the theatre info and a review and can't see where it says any actors get naked.
The group who run it deliver sex ed in schools (there is a link to their website in the theatre blurb), although they seem to work with secondary age.
I'd not be taking a younger child to be fair.
The pre-booking workshop is free so parents can go before they buy tickets.
Just not sure it's quite what it's being made out to be i.e. gratuitous nudity etc...
I'm happy to be corrected though, as the info on the website is very brief.

FOJN · 08/04/2022 07:10

I'm really challenging myself here to see if there's a reasonable alternative view to my instinctive reaction (which is to say this is deeply wrong).

That's the whole purpose of grooming, isn't it?

It's dressed up and a fun and silly show dealing with the awkward issue of sex, we're all suppose to play along with the idea this is progressive, the inclusivity and equality message is being used quite cynically here. Our instincts tell us it's wrong for a reason but some people will ignore their instincts because they are worried they have missed the obvious "reasonable alternative view" which makes it much less dangerous than they first thought it was and they don't want to seem uptight or stupid.

Scatterbrainbox · 08/04/2022 07:18

Apologies I have just seen the link to the website where it says there is nakedness.
I am also dubious about the 5+ age rating.

Yeah, I'm not convinced at all actually.

Teens fair enough, but not younger children.

Lubeyboobyalt · 08/04/2022 07:18

YABU and presumptuous and judgey

Slightly alarmed and curious I just went and read more, and all their faq's thoroughly and have no problem with it at all. Looks like a great mission.

hungrymutha · 08/04/2022 07:21

Five? They're just starting school at that age and over coming that change and stil like paw patrol snd teddy bears

And learning how to write letters

Totalwasteofpaper · 08/04/2022 07:24

@RedHelenB

From what I can understand from the promotion, parents can see what the content is before deciding on if it is suitable for children?
Except for... try clicking the link...

Because the show isn't completely finished yet, this page isn't quite ready. When it is, this page will have detailed information about the show, the lights and sound we use, and a description of exactly what happens. That way you can make an informed descision about whether or not it feels right for you.

Please check back again soon!

Oh good... Because the lights and sounds are the bit i was concern and thinking WTAF? about Confused

The language used here is amazingly faux concerned...
If knowing exactly what happens in the show might make you more comfortable, please see our pre-show document
We want everyone to be COMFORTABLlE with what we are doing.

Its totally inappropriate and unnecessary for a child of 5 to be shown something like this.
I am faitly Liberal if it was 12+ or maybe even 10with appropriate content i couldnr get mad worked up but this is basically a stepping stone for main stream paedophilia by MAPs

trollopolis · 08/04/2022 07:25

Well if you have light sensitive epilepsy, then knowing about lighting is basic safety.

Ableism strikes again

orangeisthenewpuce · 08/04/2022 07:27

@Floydthebarber

Oh ffs, my repose was to this: *It's taking the school PSHE curriculum for that age group and turning it into a show for families.

Those who think it's outrageous/grooming, do you actually know what is on that age group's curriculum and how your school delivers it?*

As far as I know teachers don't take their clothes off in sex Ed lessons.
orangeisthenewpuce · 08/04/2022 07:30

I've read through all the info for the show and I think any parent who books to take their child to this is lacking in judgement and parenting skills.

FOJN · 08/04/2022 07:33

This is from the website, about the podcast.

Although this theatre show will be for families, the podcast is currently for young people (maybe 16+ (but really that's up to you)) and parents / guardians / interested adults to have conversations around sex and relationships.

the podcast is currently for young people (maybe 16+ (but really that's up to you))

No certainty about the age it's appropriate for because age is just a number, right?

interested adults to have conversations around sex and relationships.

It's OK for interested adults to talk about sex in an explicit way with children.

So much wrong with those few short lines.

FOJN · 08/04/2022 07:37

YABU and presumptuous and judgey

I'm OK with that. There is no room for benefit of the doubt when it comes to safe guarding children.

stimpyyouidiot · 08/04/2022 07:39

What the fuck

sashagabadon · 08/04/2022 07:43

Crikey! Bristol is an odd place. Does the mayor Marvin know/ approve? He seems a decent sort

stimpyyouidiot · 08/04/2022 07:44

About to complain to the organisers in Norfolk. What the fuck is going on

ExplodingElephants · 08/04/2022 07:45

What the hell!! I used to live in good old Brizzle and it’s known for being quite liberal but this is just ridiculous.

marjayy · 08/04/2022 07:46

@EmmaH2022

This on the FAQs

"Use pleasure as a vehicle for consent - knowing why we might say yes so we know when to say no."

Bloody hell.

Argh.
MichelleScarn · 08/04/2022 07:46

@Lubeyboobyalt

YABU and presumptuous and judgey

Slightly alarmed and curious I just went and read more, and all their faq's thoroughly and have no problem with it at all. Looks like a great mission.

Oh no, don't call us judgey! 😱 yes of course everyone will now send their child along to this for fear of being seen as judgey!
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