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Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol

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MatthewJTaylor · 07/04/2022 21:28

From May 5th to May 8th 2022, the Tobacco Factory Theatres in Bristol is having performances of "The Family Sex Show".
This show is aimed at children 5 years old and up.
The performers involved get naked.
The discussion with the children is on sex, sexuality and sexual pleasure.

I cannot imagine brining a 5 year old child to a theatre where people will to to her/him about sex and show their naked bodies to her/him.

Am I the crazy one?

Sources:
The Family Sex Show website
Listing at The Tobacco Factory Theatres

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Stossi · 08/04/2022 01:35

Creepy, it's grooming. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 08/04/2022 01:42

"There is nakedness, yes. At one point in the show, everyone on stage takes their clothes off to the level they feel comfortable to. For some people, that’s taking off all of their clothes and being completely naked. For other people, that means taking off bottoms but leaving underwear on, for others it’s not taking anything off at all. This moment lasts approximately 5 minutes. For more information on exactly what happens in the show, see our pre-show document heree_."

From the FAQs.

StageRage · 08/04/2022 01:47

@viques

You can tell that these idiots think they are doing something wonderfully kind and of groundbreaking importance designed to lead us ignorant peasants out of our blind ignorance by the way they carefully show us how to pronounce their names . Pretentious twattery.

Viques ( V ee ks) I/my/me/mine

[I feel sorry for their parents , who agreed to fund them through drama college and now have to fend off the questions about what the little thespian is up to these days “ I always say to Brian don’t I dear, we do hope the show transfers somewhere close, it would be so exciting to sit in the stalls knowing we know one of the cast really well!“]

Yes.

As I said in my post above, whilst the AD does have talent, the company have waded into water far too deep for them and without the proper advice. Being all bouncy and inclusive isn't enough, and they need to have thought much harder about how they present in the context of the views of many parents.

But I think they are full of their own enthusiasm and rainbow coloured zeal, young and very naïve, rather than paedophile. In fact having come across the company in RL I would bet quite a lot on that.

LBFseBrom · 08/04/2022 01:48

It sounds seriously dodgy to me.

StageRage · 08/04/2022 01:55

[quote Teesht]@Lockheart do you think a man on stage with his cock out should be explaining pegging, BDSM and squirting to a five year old?

thefamilysexshow.com/glossary?i=sexual-psychotherapy

I feel sick just writing that.[/quote]
Teesht - If that is indeed what happens in the show, then I think you should write to your list of contacts.

But the glossary pertains to the Podcasts. The Podcasts say they are aimed at 16+

So I highly doubt that any 5 year olds will be subjected to any such thing.

tolerable · 08/04/2022 02:06

see this..on page..."Create an alternative, offline, honest & human theatre show that is offering intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education."

wtf is an intersected fenimist.//irrelevant-i dont care
children. INCLUSIVE (even the ones who have been smited with labels//eg..boy/girl... who..in the INNOCENCE of getting bored of the catchin your toes stint...might well..."develop" a natural nuf self exploration and find bits they like
Anyone.at all,ever...promoting ...NORMALISING pleasureable sexual "interaction" with children, ...is a beast
anyone whos grannies mothers uncles butler that is promoting and selling tickets is a beast
and...
wtf is that ???????? " Use pleasure as a vehicle for consent - knowing why we might say yes so we know when to say no."btrds.NORMALISING sexual INTERACTION ..to a child..is horrendous
vile.wheres the daily whatsit that steals posts..
wow

LunaLights · 08/04/2022 02:23

[quote Teesht]I've emailed everyone I can think of - posting again should anyone else want to join me!

E-mail the papers to make some noise: [email protected]
More contact details here: www.bristolpost.co.uk/contact-us/

Tabloids: [email protected]
[email protected]

E-mail the MP for that area:
[email protected]

The NSPCC: [email protected]

E-mail the mayor: [email protected]

If you can find contact details for the board of trustees than that'd be great: tobaccofactorytheatres.com/our-trustees/[/quote]
Would it be worth adding Baroness Nicholson to your contacts?

Sazzasez · 08/04/2022 02:37

It’s also coming to Norwich, to the Norfolk & Norwich Festival in May.

Sazzasez · 08/04/2022 02:47

Look in the glossary:

Misinformation & ignorance under “Queer” - “it was illegal to be Queer” . No it wasn’t. The word “Queer” has never appeared in British law. It was illegal for men to commit sexual acts with each other. Never for women.

This is erasing the history of gay men & of lesbians. It’s pretty misogynistic to assume that was the same history.

And under TERF - well of course!

oakleaffy · 08/04/2022 03:07

It'll doubtless be pushing ''Agendas'' on small children, too.

Grotesque.

Let kids be kids.

oakleaffy · 08/04/2022 03:11

@Sazzasez

Look in the glossary:

Misinformation & ignorance under “Queer” - “it was illegal to be Queer” . No it wasn’t. The word “Queer” has never appeared in British law. It was illegal for men to commit sexual acts with each other. Never for women.

This is erasing the history of gay men & of lesbians. It’s pretty misogynistic to assume that was the same history.

And under TERF - well of course!

Exactly this. I just knew before even clicking the link it would be TQ&c What next piggybacking off the endless acronyms? MAP ''Minor Attracted Persons?'' another name for paedophilia?
BooseysMom · 08/04/2022 03:16

*I was ‘forced’ to watch Naked Attraction last week.

I’m 62. I’m still having nightmares*

🤣

Lipsandlashes · 08/04/2022 03:20

@FuckeryOmbudsman

It's taking the school PSHE curriculum for that age group and turning it into a show for families.

Those who think it's outrageous/grooming, do you actually know what is on that age group's curriculum and how your school delivers it?

Please enlighten me as to why the adults need to be naked to do that!?! It is grooming!
TurkeyRoastvBubbleandSqueek · 08/04/2022 03:39

@FairlyAntisocial

It's not getting beamed directly into kids brains so get a grip, the info isn't finished yet, it's up to the parent, it'sgot to beat the old Famly Circle booklet I was shown. If you're worried go and see it first, if it's inappropriate no parent will go.
Well actually at 5 years old and with many visuals, it IS in fact "getting beamed directly into kids brains...". Which is why they will be naked at certain stages, plus goodness knows what else, to make a lasting impression on very young minds - and conveniently for them, they offer to tell us what is going to happen in the show, but can't tell us yet because they haven't finished writing it!

"If you are worried go and see it first, if it's inappropriate no parent will go."

I'm sorry to be blunt @FairlyAntisocisl, but you expect a parent to spend both time and money (which they might have very short supply of) in checking out a performance that they already know suspect is very close to depravity, but cloaked in the name of educational art? And before anyone including you @FA jumps down my neck at the use of the word 'depravity' I am using it in the context of primary age children viewing it - not adults. If it were only aimed at adults I would probably just roll my eyes, and say really - I had hoped that that sort of adult humour had gone out of fashion with Benny Hill (who I never found funny in the first place). My 5 year old Grandchildren laugh at "bum" and "windy pops" and smelly feet, and that is graphic enough for them!

StageRage · 08/04/2022 04:14

ThisEgg’s Twitter reveals that they were still auditing for performers and collaborators to ‘develop’ and ‘devise’ the show in Mid March. With really short deadlines and turnaround times.

No wonder the website has been thrown together in such a way… not being clearer about the role of the glossary wrt the show, not having the all important info about naked scenes, muddling up podcasts for O16s with work for 5+ etc.

A slapdash level of unprofessionalism not suited to all this.

And OMG the podcasts. I am Gender Critical (see TERF in the glossary) and was actually happy with the way many glossary terms are described. But the Gender podcast …. OK to begin with, lots that I would agree with (not that I have to… plurality and all that) but the whole section about sport and Caster Semenya is just a mush mash of misinformation and things that are not true.
The theatres that have supported the project are reputable.

babycryingandcrying · 08/04/2022 04:25

Disgusting and embarrassing

BOOTS52 · 08/04/2022 05:03

That is gross and disgusting it would make you think who are these people putting on the show. At 5 years old it is not right and any questions at this age should be talked about with parents and all just weird. How are things like this allowed to happen. The world is gone mad and who would bring their children to see this.

Sazzasez · 08/04/2022 05:06

Talking about terminology, the name ThisEgg is interesting:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=Egg&amp=true

URMyStarship · 08/04/2022 05:20

What absolute weirdos would take their young children to see this?!

thingymaboob · 08/04/2022 05:26

Agree that this show looks awful and inappropriate.
The title of this post is a bit misleading - it's a touring company that goes all over , not just Bristol.

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/04/2022 05:28

According to the website and setting aside the issue of nudity for the moment, the show addresses: " ethical decision making; sexual consent; equity - the skills to spot gender norms, male gaze, racist tropes, ableism; understanding of safe sex (able to spot non-use of protection), etc." It also covers using "pleasure as a vehicle for consent".

The difficulty I'm having is how can this be addressed in an age appropriate way when there's such a diverse range of ages?

I accept that it's possible to introduce some of these topics to a 5 yr old - such as safety, for example. But I don't understand how you can choose language that makes it age appropriate to talk about sexual pleasure and safe sex/sexual protection to a 5 yr old. And even if it were appropriate to discuss those topics with a 5yr old (HINT - it's not) - how could you choose language which is simultaneously appropriate for a 5yr old AND a 12 yr old?? It's just not possible.

It's not a child's show, it's a "family" show suitable from the age of 5 and up. I'm really challenging myself here to see if there's a reasonable alternative view to my instinctive reaction (which is to say this is deeply wrong). But when you consider the fact that discussing things which aren't age-appropriate with a 5 yr old would normally be considered a safeguarding issues, and potentially a red flag for grooming/abuse, how does this sit alongside it? When 5 yr old Emma goes into school next week and starts talking about the importance of pleasure during sex and female satisfaction, and how condoms are important - there's going to be some very serious questions asked of the family.

I'm extremely relaxed about nudity, and I'm comfortable discussing sex with my DC. This stuff just doesn't embarrass me at all, and I think that sex education is important. But it MUST be age appropriate. And no matter how much I try and figure this out, I can't see how these subjects can be covered in a way which is safe and appropriate for a 5 yr old.

Also - some of the photos appear to show adults simulating sex - albeit in a comedic way. I don't think that's suitable for a 5 yr old either. Again, back to the school scenario - "Emma, what game are you playing with little Mikey right now? Why are you sitting on top of him and grinding your hips?" Jesus Christ. It doesn't bear thinking about.

Finally, they are being very disingenuous - they've added a link to the NSPCC site and saying that the NSPCC agree that children are sexual from the age of 5. That's absolutely NOT what the link says. And the information that the NSPCC suggests providing to a 5 yr old is definitely not about masturbation, sexual pleasure and safe sex.

I was completely prepared for this to be a load of pearl-clutching and people being uptight, but it's genuinely not. It's really shocking actually and I don't understand how ANYONE can be defending it.

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/04/2022 05:30

^sorry, just to add - when I said about discussing safety with 5 yr olds, I wasn't referring to using condoms. I just meant the PANTS thing recommended by NSPCC and what's safe and what isn't. For example, keeping your privates private - the P in PANTS - and not showing them to adults who ask etc. That's what I meant by safety, just in case of confusion!

runnerblade95 · 08/04/2022 05:31

Oh wow. I’m actually sat here with my mouth open. This is shocking and scary.

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LapinR0se · 08/04/2022 05:55

My daughters are 4 and 7 and there is no way IN HELL I would let either of them go to something like this. The blurb reads straight out of pro-paedophilia propaganda

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