Porn star martini Pizza Express

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Why are Pizza Express advertising 'Porn Star Martinis' on every table at their restaurants? AIBU to find this disgusting for a family restaurant? I don't really wish to explain to my 6 year old what it is.

In fact, a ‘porn star martini’ in Pizza Express is the epitome of it having been so normalised, people don’t even see the issue. Agree, some people have no critical thinking facilities.

The pornstar pic looks like a drag queen. I'm surprised PE is still in business anyway. Nasty pizzas.

YANBU they could have called it passion fruit martini

@HMBB

YANBU they could have called it passion fruit martini

Yes and it makes you wonder why they didn't? What possible reason could there be?

My child would just accept it's the name for a drink

As would many, but many may ask more.

Also, an older child, who's heard of porn, may be wondering why that word is on the table, and may be thinking about how someone could be a "star" in it. For them it's normalising and legitimising it.

How can you tell them porn is wrong if they sell "porn star" drinks in your family's favourite restaurant?

There is one thing having a line on a drinks menu but that advert on the tables is really horrible actually. It’s not the right vibe for a family restaurant.

For any of the “cool girls” who think it’s fine, I’m a bi woman who’s had sex with men and women and am all for adults enjoying what they like in bed, though I personally never do anything exploitative or violent or anything I don’t like. I’m no prude and I make sure I get what I want in sex - female sexual desire and pleasure should be celebrated.

But that isn’t remotely the same as porn culture, which is violent, misogynistic, exploitative to women and all about male violence and male pleasure. Porn is also fake, shallow, money oriented and fundamentally performed - hardly any of it is genuinely about good sex, sexual pleasure or women’s sexual fulfilment. (Or men’s for that matter, really.)

Our daughters (and sons) are growing up with a distorted, commercialised view of sex from the normalisation of porn and the sex industry. It’s fake and weird and not remotely like good sex should be.

It’s also for adults - even if it was about good fulfilling sex rather than porn, I still wouldn’t like my child, not even ten, being introduced to adult things while she should be enjoying eating a pizza and being a kid. I have no issue with older teenagers learning about what good sex should be like. Not in Pizza Express for my nine year old though, thanks — that’s fucking weird and wrong, and anyone who thinks it’s OK needs their moral compass seriously rejiigging.

It’s not an issue of showing how you’re all cool with sex - it’s just basic ethics about what’s appropriate for kids FFS.

What’s a pornstar Martini mum?

A drink love

End of conversation 😂😂😂

Well yeah, if you have an exceptionally dull-headed kid.*

I thought this.

Me too. Are your kids really that simple?

Great post @tigerbird.

Honestly Pizza Express, what a sleazy spring promotion. How came up with this? Anyone onTwitter, who would like to share some of the well articulated concerns on here?

It's cringey godawful marketing by PE. They should cop themselves on and rename the cocktail.

@tigerbird

For any of the “cool girls” who think it’s fine, I’m a bi woman who’s had sex with men and women and am all for adults enjoying what they like in bed, though I personally never do anything exploitative or violent or anything I don’t like. I’m no prude and I make sure I get what I want in sex - female sexual desire and pleasure should be celebrated.

But that isn’t remotely the same as porn culture, which is violent, misogynistic, exploitative to women and all about male violence and male pleasure. Porn is also fake, shallow, money oriented and fundamentally performed - hardly any of it is genuinely about good sex, sexual pleasure or women’s sexual fulfilment. (Or men’s for that matter, really.)

Our daughters (and sons) are growing up with a distorted, commercialised view of sex from the normalisation of porn and the sex industry. It’s fake and weird and not remotely like good sex should be.

It’s also for adults - even if it was about good fulfilling sex rather than porn, I still wouldn’t like my child, not even ten, being introduced to adult things while she should be enjoying eating a pizza and being a kid. I have no issue with older teenagers learning about what good sex should be like. Not in Pizza Express for my nine year old though, thanks — that’s fucking weird and wrong, and anyone who thinks it’s OK needs their moral compass seriously rejiigging.

It’s not an issue of showing how you’re all cool with sex - it’s just basic ethics about what’s appropriate for kids FFS.

Brilliant post.

I think it is amusing how people just try to be cool.

Also, my child is no genius but I'm surprised that some people's don't ask more questions.

I’m guessing that those posters who are fine with it were also fine with Playboy bunny logos all over kid’s stationary a few years ago too?

We shouldn’t be happy with the “normalisation” of porn in society. I’m more than happy to be called a prude for not wanting to safeguard my children against exposure to it. I will have an appropriate conversation with them about it when they are old enough, but the argument of “they hear worse in school” is not good enough. They shouldn’t be hearing ANYTHING about porn at school other than sensible age appropriate discussions at secondary school about how misogynistic and unrepresentative of real life it is.

If a primary aged child knows what porn is and how to access it it is a massive safeguarding red flag, not a badge of honour.

Why would a family restaurant think this is okay? They could easily change it to a passion fruit martini. Hope you've complained to their Head Office.

Ransom “not” in my last post. Should read “ I’m more than happy to be called a prude for wanting to safeguard my children against exposure to it.”

[quote HumptyDumpty2022]@Whatalovelydaffodil do you realise you sound a little unhinged/neurotic? Do you think all primary kids are slugs and snails and puppy dogs tails?[/quote]
No I didn't realise that I sound a little unhinged/neurotic.

I had one instead of dessert last night. It was not a good one...

what a slow comfortable screw mum

just a drink dear ok i'll have one of those

@CaveMum I 100% agree. I'm extremely open with my teen about discussing sex, I'm not prudish and I don't censor much of what the teen watches either, but there's something really slimely about the normalisation of porn (which mostly degrades women) and also prostitution ("pimp" XY&Z...) that I really dislike. Years ago in the Middle East I got such a shock when I came back to England- sex seemed to be used in every aspect of selling everything and it really was eye-opening. But now it's porn and prostitution being used in a "family friendly" context....wrong, wrong, wrong.

So if your dc does accept that it's just "the name of a drink" what's to stop them asking for one on their next play date?

She reads well for her age! I think you should be quietly chuffed OP

Lots of "family" restaurants call it a Porn Star Martini. I know Frankiie and Bennys and Miller and Carter do I've had them there recently

@Fupoffyagrasshole

What’s a pornstar Martini mum?

A drink love

End of conversation 😂😂😂

Yep!

It's only a big deal if you make it one.

It's not that deep

For any of the “cool girls” who think it’s fine
Not trying to be cool at all, just don't have a problem with it.
How is dismissing others as cool girls any better than those calling you pearl clutchers?

I love a Pornstar Martini but agree there’s probably a better name for it on a menu at a family restaurant. I’ve been to loads of places where they call them Passionfruit Martinis.