AIBU to conclude that Boris Johnson has got away with Party gate?

[TomAndBarbara322]

20 fines issued to members of staff at Downing Street and thus was not one of the leading topics on ten o'clock news.

BJ has got away with it hasn't he?

@DdraigGoch

Aren't there more important things going on in the world?

YES, everyone in the world should agree to only ever discuss the single most important issue of the week (as agreed by a panel of experts). What is today's issue please, so we may ensure that nobody is discussing or thinking about anything else?

@Nicholethejewellery

He’s either hungover or drunk most of the time.

Really? As in more than 12 hours of every single day?

Yep. Look at the fucking state of him.

A newspaper said Sue Gray may - not guaranteed- still submit a final report once the police complete their investigation, so possibly not completely over for Johnson. Whatever I hope enough consider it at the ballot box in 2024, but not holding my breath, sadly.

@Zotter

A newspaper said Sue Gray may - not guaranteed- still submit a final report once the police complete their investigation, so possibly not completely over for Johnson. Whatever I hope enough consider it at the ballot box in 2024, but not holding my breath, sadly.

There’s talk of a possible election before 2024, as there are no longer any fixed term parliaments.

I wonder if he’ll go for one next year, to avoid any fallout from the covid investigation but before sue gray finally reports 😂

*I don’t think people will forget loved ones dying alone, and I don’t for one moment think he will get to the next election without more blunders/stupidity/incompetence.

His one saving Grace is that he isn’t Corbyn, but Corbyn won’t be running again*

I thought Labour would have it in the bag - just to get Boris out, because, as you say this past few years has been horrific for so many. Until the whole trans female rights thing has cropped up. Boris seems to have sussed labours rumblings at potentially losing 51% of the vote.

@dangerrabbit

He could probably have sex with a pig live on TV and people would say he was doing his bit for the British farming industry

I' be less offended by that than what he has done actually. I didn't vote for him/Tories before anyone accuses me.

It's his lies we should be concerned about.

@LardyDee

I don't think people really mind too much. He wasn't elected for probity, nor really for competence. He got brexit done.

I didn't vote for him, didn't vote for Brexit, and I mind very much.

@Braproblem

Yes, it looks like he has indeed got away with it. Shocking on one level, but perhaps we should reflect on the fact that BJ's complete lack of honesty and integrity was well established long before he was elected, and so a large proportion of the electorate presumably just don't care about the PM's morals or lack thereof.

I think they should, but we live in a democratic country and I guess people have the right not to give a toss about standards in public life. And they clearly exercised that right when they put him in number 10, and he has behaved entirely in line with expectations. I won't pretend to understand why people made that choice, but they did. And they may well make it again despite all that has happened.

Sums it up really.

I don’t think we’ll know until the local elections. The results of those will show if he has or not. I personally don’t think people’s memories are that short.

as there are no longer any fixed term parliaments

When did that change?

I sure as hell won't forget this and they're fools if they think we all will.

You never know, he might be innocent, perhaps the police found he didn’t actually break any laws,
Obviously that will not work for a few people, who just wanted him charged, innocent or not, far more important things for the government and the police to be spending their time on.

It's up to the Conservative Party and MP's to hold him to account on this. If they think voters can only deal with one thought at a time, they are wrong - it was embarassing to see MP's attempt to brush off questions about it by saying 'what about Ukraine'. What about it - we can deal with two issues at once. If MP's can't deal with multiple issues they are not fit to do the job.

Incidentially, my own MP is one of the people who missing out seeing a dying parent so I'm hoping they will take action and I keep in contact with them about the partygate issue.

@DdraigGoch

Aren't there more important things going on in the world?

Straight off the Downing Street script, that one.

Putin or no Putin, Boris is a useless lying tosser and always will be. We need an epithet as good as Maggie Milksnatcher so people don't forget.

@Unphased

You never know, he might be innocent, perhaps the police found he didn’t actually break any laws, Obviously that will not work for a few people, who just wanted him charged, innocent or not, far more important things for the government and the police to be spending their time on.

@Unphased did you miss the news yesterday that they have already issued 20 fines for Downing Street / Whitehall parties.

So you don't think Johnson is accountable for what goes on at the heart of Government / in his own residence?! You don't mind the Prime Minister of the country LYING to parliament that no rules were broken.

Do you not want any standards in public office?

@ChicCroissant It's up to the Conservative Party and MP's to hold him to account on this

This ^. Johnson has behaved exactly as you would expect him to, recklessly and with double standards. You would hope there was a bit more integrity from the rest of the Conservative party, with the basic principle being that the law should be followed, particularly by those setting it.

But none of the Thatcher apologists ever cared about her being called Milksnatcher or the Iron Lady etc. In the same way, people who would vote for a nematode worm with a blue rosette aren't going to care about Boris - unless and until he is seen to be an electoral liability.
Thatcher's eventual downfall was that she had gone too far in believing her own propaganda and was a risk to the party - and the Tories were reelected after they ditched her.

It wouldn't be a hard job persuading people like me who have never voted Tory not to vote for Boris, but I'm not the important target.

Having done three Zoom funerals, I care very much. Very much. Where the fuck is he now anyway? Gone to ground nicely.

OP one question - are you saying that you never broke the rules in any capacity? Because I find it hilarious that people are so outraged when they didn't stick to the rules either.
Yes the government made the rules but is every outraged person a saint?

CakeAmbushAlert
Has he been issued with one?
Far more important things for the police and Parliament to be working on,
All this fake outrage, if you expect MPs to be whiter than white, you must of missed a lot of news over the decades

It absolutely beggars belief that as we’re standing on the brink of world war three, there are people still trying to topple the government and create chaos over a fucking piece of cake two years ago. FFS, give it a rest till the current crisis is over.

Next election will conclude exactly what brexit and the most recent general election portrayed - that the silent majority get to speak, and thus those who are easily lead by the media get a huge wake up call.

nearlyspringyay
It’s vastly different going to a funeral, mixing with different people, than having a get together with colleagues you spend time with working and being tested daily

Aposterhasnoname
Well said,