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AIBU?

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To think friend is spoilt and selfish

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SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 18:26

Am on a long holiday with a friend and really struggling with her behaviour and finding myself just closing down around her and not really wanting to engage much. Could do with some perspective as I know it could be spending so much time together amplifying things. Also, she has an injury which is stressing her out so I’ve been trying to let a lot of stuff go and telling myself it’s not really her, but still.

  • The main one is the way she speaks to service people. She needs to know absolutely everything about everything so takes up lots of their time even when they’re busy and stressed, she must have everything exactly her way or she complains; she gives of an aggressive and rude energy a lot of the time and then when they are rude back is flabbergasted and says how they’re really macho in this country / toxic masculinity etc. to be honest, I’ve felt embarrassed quite a lot. She sent back her cocktail for not tasting of lemon enough and refused to pay on a tiny island where they survive on tourism. She’s complained to the airline about their app. She complained about a salad for not having enough leaves. You get the picture. The other day, she was panicking so much in a shop as she thought she’d lost her phone that someone told her to relax. She seems to have zero ability to regulate her emotions and just spews them onto everyone else. I have had to remove myself from her quite a lot in order to not react in a way I don’t like and also just to relax. One of her main topics of conversation is the standard of service where we are eating or staying. Nothing ever feels good enough.
  • Constantly wants to upgrade everything and change plans to something even better. Anything I’ve planned, she criticises and wants to change. I’ve put my foot down a couple of times and said she can go elsewhere if she likes but I don’t want to spend any more time on admin or money and am happy with my choice. Other times I’ve let her plan our days as if I get stuck in I get a million questions that I have to ask the provider - ie can you send a picture of the car we will have, what’s the exact route etc. She refuses to get any buses or shuttles, everything must be private taxis - something I didn’t budget for but have been happy to go along with because of her injury etc. But both this and her insistence on separate hotel rooms (despite initially agreeing we’d share roughly half of the time) have made this holiday ridiculously expensive, much more than I had anticipated. At the same time, I can tell she’s resentful about having spent more time on admin than me, as she makes subtle digs about how so much time on her phone is making the injury worse. Often I don’t even know she’s doing it tho until she reports what she’s done. She must research all potential options, write them down and have a discussion whereas I’m happy to just go with the flow a bit more (and I would say I’m pretty type A compared to most people!)
  • her injury dominates most of our conversations - I understand she’s in pain, so will happily listen and ask questions etc, but the result is there seems little conversational space for me and I find it hard to get her to lighten up. I’ve suggested if she’s in so much pain perhaps she should just rest in one place and not go travelling with me to different areas and going on hikes etc but she keeps coming along, and then being moany and snappy
  • despite her emphasis on organisation she is frequently late at important points - ie making me wait for her to get a taxi for a flight, being half an hour late for check out with hotel etc and risking extra charges. I’ve not said anything and just been chilled. Then, if I’m scatty (I definitely can be) she gets super shirtt about it even tho it’s not affecting her (ie I thought I lost my passport then found it later on. I didn’t panic as it wasn’t the end of the world but she seemed really annoyed)
  • she mentioned I’d been quiet on this holiday yesterday and I was honest and said that I’d been trying to keep calm in order to calm her down, and that I found the way she spoke to me and also waiters etc difficult to be around but that I had not said anything as I hadn’t found the right moment - she had always seemed like she was just on the edge and I couldn’t handle any more aggression. She said she knew she did this but that I should take up more space and communicate more, and tell her when she’s being like that. I said I didn’t think it was my job to police her behaviour and just wanted to chill and enjoy my holiday to be honest, and my way is more introverted than hers. She said I’d been ‘cold’ and not sympathetic enough about her injury and that I had just closed down and that it was ‘odd’, and that I obviously didn’t have the emotional capacity to handle her being unwell. I think this is very unfair - it’s taken a lot of energy to just be around her and I’ve actively been very engaged in talking about her injury, offering solitions, agreeing it’s shit, letting things go etc. I am not however going to have massive amounts of sympathy for someone who acts in this way as I find it selfish. Also, I’ve been a carer for sick people before and have endless empathy usually. I have just found it hard to find any more for her. She also said I’d disengaged from the first day of the holiday when actually, I’d invited her to come with me on a big walk to get our bearings and to explore the city, she said she’d come later, and then backed out because of jet lag. I think she has felt rejected when we haven’t done things together; but she is often the one backing out. For instance the other night we were out for what could have been our one and only proper night in a month - we were just gearing up and getting in the mood when she stubs her toe, she says she feels faint and goes home, leaving me out alone.

She also said I’d assassinated her character and that mentioning her behaviour to waiters was unfair as it’s nothing to do with me.

I feel hurt she said I was cold and she’d found my behaviour odd. Also like she’s a massively entitled selfish brat and like I don’t really want to spend any more time with her. AIBU?

YABU - she’s fine, you’re being sensitive
YANBU - she’s spoilt, you’d feel annoyed too

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araiwa · 28/03/2022 18:36

Why the fuck did you go on holiday with her?

Adododoadahdahdah · 28/03/2022 18:38

If it’s exactly as you say then, no, YANBU, but I guess her side of the story could be completely different.

You are definitely not suited to holidaying together that’s for sure!

HellToTheNope · 28/03/2022 18:39

I would have ditched her days ago. I'm astounded that you are tolerating this shit.

SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 18:42

@araiwa I’d been on a long weekend before with her which went fine; but you’re right, this was a stretch. We agreed we’d do our own thing quite a lot and maybe take some time in different areas but in the end she wanted to stay in the same place all the time…

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Loopytiles · 28/03/2022 18:42

Surely there were signs of these types of behaviour before?!

She sounds tiresome. Wouldn’t holiday with her ever again!

ZaraSizeMedium · 28/03/2022 18:43

How long have you got left on this holiday?

You’ve put up with far more than I’d have.

Tbh I’d tell her I’m doing my own thing for the reminder and ditch her.

M0rT · 28/03/2022 18:43

You need to agree to separate, she is costing you more than you can afford and taking the joy out of your trip.
Maybe suggest she goes home as the injury is obviously too much for her, or just say you've taken her advice on board and your going to take up so much space you'll need to be on you own now!

SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 18:46

A reminder to people to be gentle about telling me I’m an idiot for going. I already feel like that anyway tbh. Thankfully I’ve had a nice enough time doing things without her!

@ZaraSizeMedium I have booked into a different place and made excuses for the rest of the week.

@Loopytiles When we went on the weekend away she was rude to the waitress once and I bought her up on it and she said it was totally out of character and she was just in a lot of pain (another injury lol). I had been to dinner with her lots before that so took her word for it. Feel stupid now tho!

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Blossomtoes · 28/03/2022 18:51

You’ve got the patience of a saint. No way could I put up with that.

Duchess379 · 28/03/2022 18:58

How long have you got left with Miss Neurotic? It's a shame a trip has been left with a bitter taste, especially as we've been locked down for so long.
I'd definitely cut ties with her when you get home. x

VyeBrator · 28/03/2022 18:59

Well that's quite some opening post. I'd love to hear her thoughts on you. No-one can really say if YABU or not as I suspect this is all a teensy bit one-sided.

Riseholme · 28/03/2022 19:03

I think the best thing when she’s being fussy and difficult it to gently say
This is my holiday too. We both want to enjoy ourselves so we must compromise sometimes.

If she carries on being difficult then just continue solo.

SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 19:09

2 or 3 days till we are in different cities, but I have booked into different hotels for that time and I’ve said I need to do some work (which is true) so won’t be very available.

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SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 19:10

Sorry that was for @Duchess379

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RishiRich · 28/03/2022 19:11

YANBU. Stick with your plan and leave her to her holiday while you enjoy yours. Hopefully when you get home you can both salvage the friendship by agreeing you're not suited to holidaying together and to never do it again!

dudsville · 28/03/2022 19:13

Ah, you are patient. It reminds me of a short break my ex and I took with his old friend and his lover. The lover bit was uncomfortable as I hadn't realised until this moment that they were having an affair and that she had a child and husband at home who she'd lied to, she told us all about this and I was shocked. We'd previously met up with them at a couple of weddings and had a nice time even though my ex's friends weren't my cup of tea at all, no mutual interests, very different lifestyles, backgrounds, etc.

She also, and most importantly for this holiday, had a terrible character, critical of everything, loud and overbearing and just deeply unpleasant.

I'd been commenting in private to my ex that I was finding it increasingly unbearable, and then one morning over breakfast I lost it. I never lose it, never before or since, and I can't even remember what I said, but made it clear that we were parting ways there and then. It was a little awkward as we were driving so they had to be taken to a nearby train station. It was all so awful! I feel for you, I hope you can go your separate ways!

Brefugee · 28/03/2022 19:15

did she have the injury before you left?
Just do your own thing until you go home

FangsForTheMemory · 28/03/2022 19:16

NOTHING excuses being rude to service staff. If you have a complaint, you make it politely. However it sounds as though she is looking for reasons to be rude to people and complaining when there is actually nothing wrong. I'm with the people who say you should get on with your holiday and ignore her.

SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 19:17

@dudsville well done you for saying something. She sounds awful. I’ve been spending so much energy managing my emotions here; partly because I knew we had a non refundable week booked at the end which Was expensive etc and felt I needed to keep the peace. Also tried to be forgiving because of extenuating circumstances. I now feel totally exhausted tbh and I think the result has been I’ve come across as distant as I just had to disengage mentally a bit or I’d be constantly telling her off and it’s obviously a deep part of her character I couldn’t change? Glad I told her about it now but I felt I needed to get that week out of the way first. Feel I’ve wasted a ridiculous amount of money really. I’ve been on fantastic holidays with friends before for a fraction of the price.

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Gonnagetgoing · 28/03/2022 19:19

I have to agree with @VyeBrator as she could have different views to you.

Once when I went on holiday with a friend of a friend we had a few nights out and knew each other vaguely but just fancied a break. I thought I’d researched it with her (2 friends of mine were going at same time and in same hotel). Turned out though I liked San Antonio but she hated it and everything about it and also (what I didn’t realise) she was finalising and finishing a masters (I think) submission which meant she spent a lot of time on her laptop). She was American but a bit of a princess, loved “luxe” venues etc. We fell out on a night out and I don’t think either of us apologised to the other. Funnily enough we socialised when we both got back to London which I didn’t think we’d do, I think a mutual friend got us together.

It sounds like your second week you’re not staying with her. I’d be tempted to say, look I know you’ve not had a great time with x, y and z but it’s my holiday too so could we please try to get on? Detail what you don’t like and see if she agrees/compromises. If she doesn’t then I’d leave her to it.

AllOfUsAreDead · 28/03/2022 19:20

She stubbed her toe, felt faint and had to go back to the hotel? Hmm I'd expect her to have broken it for that kind of reaction. Just ditch her and enjoy the rest of your holiday without her. Although why are you doing work on your holiday?

Forumqueen · 28/03/2022 19:22

I have a friend like this. I do holiday with her- but it’s ever only for a max of 2 days! - and with other people. After a few hours with her I feel mentally drained! I’ve had to step back from the relationship which she has noticed but I haven’t given her a reason. Just said I’m busy. We are friends but I can never be close to her.

SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 19:22

@AllOfUsAreDead I’m freelance so can make money while I’m here. May as well as am a bit holidayed out and need it after such an expensive one!! I don’t mind tho, there’s no obligation from client. I’ve done about 2 days this month just to keep things ticking along.

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SammyseesawNotts · 28/03/2022 19:24

@Forumqueen I think that will be my approach. She can be kind and giving in small doses; I think she just finds it very hard to manage stress and takes it on other people (in my eyes there is no excuse for service people tho who can’t say anything back)

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Londonderry34 · 28/03/2022 19:31

Does she have any other friends......classic to shift the blame on you. Tell her to own her behaviour. I can't forgive rudeness to waiting staff. Pathetic and insecure. Walk, no run for the hills. Get away and don't look back.